2021-22 NBA Rookie Thread (part 6) - with ROY poll
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https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266499/Doncic-Tatum-Morant-Headline-ESPNs-25-Under-25-List-For-2022
ESPN's ranking going forward rather than off this season alone:
Cade 6th
Scottie 13th
Mobley 15th
Green 21st
ESPN's ranking going forward rather than off this season alone:
Cade 6th
Scottie 13th
Mobley 15th
Green 21st
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reanimator wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266499/Doncic-Tatum-Morant-Headline-ESPNs-25-Under-25-List-For-2022
ESPN's ranking going forward rather than off this season alone:
Cade 6th
Scottie 13th
Mobley 15th
Green 21st
Sounds about right. I've always said Cade will be the best player from the draft.
Got attacked by a bunch of Mobley fanboys for saying something so "ludicrous" when Cade was struggling.
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reanimator wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/266499/Doncic-Tatum-Morant-Headline-ESPNs-25-Under-25-List-For-2022
ESPN's ranking going forward rather than off this season alone:
Cade 6th
Scottie 13th
Mobley 15th
Green 21st
Love the props for Cade, but that seems awfully low for Jalen Green.
I realize scoring isn’t everything, but his potential level of scoring, like leading the league, is more than the 21st best player under 25.
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Cade seems a little high, but I get why is the top rookie. He probably has the highest ceiling as a #1 option out of all the rookies (combined scoring and playmaking). Green could easily end up being the better scorer, but he does not currently have the playmaking abilities (among other things).
If we were only looking at best case scenarios, I would pick Scottie given his defensive versatility. His best case scenario is probably Draymond Green on defense with 26/12/8. If I was going to bet on Scottie's peak I would guess it would be something like 24/10/6 with all-defense team defense but not Draymond defense (DPOY).
Cade's best case scenario is a high scoring triple double threat - something like 30/10/10 with all-defense potential (not DPOY). My bet would be 27/8/8 with all-defense honourable mention potential.
I would give the edge to Cade in terms of building around him as I think it is a lot more likely Cade is a #1 scoring option than Scottie, and it is harder to find a true #1 option than anything else in the NBA.
If we were only looking at best case scenarios, I would pick Scottie given his defensive versatility. His best case scenario is probably Draymond Green on defense with 26/12/8. If I was going to bet on Scottie's peak I would guess it would be something like 24/10/6 with all-defense team defense but not Draymond defense (DPOY).
Cade's best case scenario is a high scoring triple double threat - something like 30/10/10 with all-defense potential (not DPOY). My bet would be 27/8/8 with all-defense honourable mention potential.
I would give the edge to Cade in terms of building around him as I think it is a lot more likely Cade is a #1 scoring option than Scottie, and it is harder to find a true #1 option than anything else in the NBA.
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It's a few days old, but as expected it's a really good video on Cade, it's worth watching.
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UPDATE: 11:30AM EST
Scottie Barnes:
1. Dan Devine
2. Stephen A Smith
3. Kendrick Perkins
4. Jared Greenberg
5. Doug Smith
6. Zach Harper
7. Mike Greenberg
8. Bill Simmons
9. Kevin O'Connor
10. Chris Kirschner
11. Howard Beck
12. Chris Herring
13. Doris Burke
14. Zach Lowe
15. Frank Isola
Evan Mobley:
1. Lisa Hsu (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
2. Bill Reiter (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
3. Kurt Helin
4. Eric Nehm
5. KC Johnson
6. Chris Mannix
7. Jalen Rose
8. Renjun Bao
9. Justin Termine
Cade Cunningham:
1. Ryan Russillo
2. Michael Pina
3. James Edwards III
TOTAL VOTES: 26 out of 100
Barnes and Mobley are running away with it.
Scottie Barnes:
1. Dan Devine
2. Stephen A Smith
3. Kendrick Perkins
4. Jared Greenberg
5. Doug Smith
6. Zach Harper
7. Mike Greenberg
8. Bill Simmons
9. Kevin O'Connor
10. Chris Kirschner
11. Howard Beck
12. Chris Herring
13. Doris Burke
14. Zach Lowe
15. Frank Isola
Evan Mobley:
1. Lisa Hsu (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
2. Bill Reiter (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
3. Kurt Helin
4. Eric Nehm
5. KC Johnson
6. Chris Mannix
7. Jalen Rose
8. Renjun Bao
9. Justin Termine
Cade Cunningham:
1. Ryan Russillo
2. Michael Pina
3. James Edwards III
TOTAL VOTES: 26 out of 100
Barnes and Mobley are running away with it.
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UPDATE: 12:54AM
Scottie Barnes:
1. Dan Devine
2. Stephen A Smith
3. Kendrick Perkins
4. Jared Greenberg
5. Doug Smith
6. Zach Harper
7. Mike Greenberg
8. Bill Simmons
9. Kevin O'Connor
10. Chris Kirschner
11. Howard Beck
12. Chris Herring
13. Doris Burke
14. Zach Lowe
15. Frank Isola
16. Eric Koreen
Evan Mobley:
1. Lisa Hsu (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
2. Bill Reiter (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
3. Kurt Helin
4. Eric Nehm
5. KC Johnson
6. Chris Mannix
7. Jalen Rose
8. Renjun Bao
9. Justin Termine
10. Steve Aschburner
11. Davide Chinellato
12. David Aldridge
13. Joe Vardon
14. Sam Amick
15. Josh Robbins
Cade Cunningham:
1. Ryan Russillo
2. Michael Pina
3. James Edwards III
TOTAL VOTES: 34 out of 100
Scottie Barnes:
1. Dan Devine
2. Stephen A Smith
3. Kendrick Perkins
4. Jared Greenberg
5. Doug Smith
6. Zach Harper
7. Mike Greenberg
8. Bill Simmons
9. Kevin O'Connor
10. Chris Kirschner
11. Howard Beck
12. Chris Herring
13. Doris Burke
14. Zach Lowe
15. Frank Isola
16. Eric Koreen
Evan Mobley:
1. Lisa Hsu (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
2. Bill Reiter (Not confirmed voter, but has voting history)
3. Kurt Helin
4. Eric Nehm
5. KC Johnson
6. Chris Mannix
7. Jalen Rose
8. Renjun Bao
9. Justin Termine
10. Steve Aschburner
11. Davide Chinellato
12. David Aldridge
13. Joe Vardon
14. Sam Amick
15. Josh Robbins
Cade Cunningham:
1. Ryan Russillo
2. Michael Pina
3. James Edwards III
TOTAL VOTES: 34 out of 100
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Seems Scottie is the only ROTY candidate to actually make the playoffs..
Mobley played very well tonight tho
Mobley played very well tonight tho

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Scottie was playing so well in his playoff debut and was close to a triple double
Sadly that injury ruins it all smh
Sadly that injury ruins it all smh

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PrinceAli wrote:Scottie was playing so well in his playoff debut and was close to a triple double
Sadly that injury ruins it all smh
He could've had the youngest playoff triple double in playoff history passing Magic- just bad luck tho.

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It will be one of Mobley or Barnes. Looks like Cade is far behind from the votes made public so far.
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And that's all she wrote folks...
6 threads later...
1 man left standing.
Your 2022 Rookie of the Year:

6 threads later...
1 man left standing.
Your 2022 Rookie of the Year:

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I'd like my crow medium rare please.