danfantastk32 wrote:bledredwine wrote:Rust_Cohle wrote:Playoffs:
MJ:
33.4/6.4/5.7/2.1/0.9 on 48.7/33.2/82.8
28.6 PER, 39.8 WS, .255 WS/48, 11.1 BPM, 24.7 VORP
Lebron:
28.4/9/7.2/1.7/1 on 49.7/33.2/74.1 Shooting
27.9, 58.7, .237 WS/48, 10 BPM, 36.1 VORP
Peak 7 age 23-29:
MJ:
34.6/6.7/6.6/2.3/1.0 on 50.2/35.7/83.3
29.8 PER, 23.9 WS, .264 WS/48, 12.2 BPM, 15.6 VORP
Lebron:
28.1/8.5/6.3/1.8/1 on 49.4/34/75.6 Shooting
28.8 PER, 28.4 WS, .261 WS/48, 10.7 BPM, 16.7 VORP
League leads in advanced stats/7:
MJ:
PER - 5/7
WS - 4/7
WS/48 - 4/7
BPM - 5/7
VORP - 5/7
Lebron:
PER - 3/7
WS - 3/7
WS/48 - 3/7
BPM - 4/7
VORP - 4/7
Total league leads:
MJ: - 23/35
Lebron: - 17/35
League leads whole career:
MJ:
PER - 6/13; 47%
WS - 7/13, 54%
WS/48 - 5/13, 38%
BPM - 9/13, 69%
VORP - 8/13, 61%
Lebron:
PER - 5/17, 29%
WS - 9/17, 53%
WS/48 - 4/17, 24%
BPM - 5/17, 29%
VORP - 9/17, 53%
Total league leads:
MJ: 35
Lebron: 32
MJ has 3 more League leads in 4 less playoff runs!
League leads in traditional stats per game:
MJ:
points: 11/13
rebounds: 0/13
Assists: 0/13
steals: 2/13
Blocks: 0/13
Lebron:
Points: 3/17
rebounds: 0/17
assists: 1/17
Steals: 1/17
Blocks: 0/17
Total League leads:
MJ: 13
Lebron: 5
Jordan is 1st in NBA history in an overwhelming amount of advanced stats as well, both regular season and playoffs.
It's ridiculous.
Haha...wow. I hope you pulled this off some other website by another "Jordan is God" fan....otherwise, you need to go out and feel the warmth of sun, and the grass. That aside...what the hell lame garbage is this? So Jordan was first in more things than Lebron...so what? Was Jordan 2nd or 3rd, or even 4th in any of the other stats? The fact that Lebron has passed Jordan by a mile in total points (yep, those accumulative stats count too) and rebounds, and Assists...regular season, and playoffs, and finals, tells me that while he might not be 1st....he's higher ranked in an all around stat-sheet than Jordan. It's why he's 28 triple-doubles to Jordan's 2 in the playoffs. Such a "planet Nike" viewpoint....it's first, and then nobody, lol. I get that those stats you presented make sense to you. Luckily, there's such a thing as being 5th, and 27th and so on. And while on planet Nike, all your rebounds might not count, if they weren't 1st....but in the real world, they do.
Jordan's your boy. Got it. But quit trying to say it's not even close.
It’s not close.
Read the thread. Watch the video I posted which goes over those stats.
Jordan- first in PER, regular season and playoffs
VORP regular season and playoffs
even box score plus minus for both
There was another but I forgot which. All Jordan.
It’s not close. If there’s debate, it’s between Lebron and Kareem, and I’m taking Kareem all day. I don’t want a player who needs to collude to win championships. Lebron did this and is still an entire hall of fame career away from Jordan’s accomplishments. Think about that.
Did I mention that Jordan has twice as many trophies?
yeah… not close. All you can say for lebron is 1. longevity. and 2. assists rebounds even though lebron plays point forward so yeah, obviously.
Consider watching Jordan, because apparently you don’t know how dumb this comparison is.
Why is it that Jordan supporters are posting stats annd evidence whereas Lebron fans are posting words with no basketball analysis in them whatsoever? That should tell you what you need to know about Lebron’s case.
Take a look at the poll. It’ll be much worse fifteen years from now, just like it was with Kobe after he retired. And remember this, especially if you’re around then- I called it both times.
You should also take a look at my sig, because the difference in clutch shooting is absurd.
If I’m to be honest, it’s why I love posting in these types of threads. It’s like getting boardwalk and all of the blue cards in monopoly- so much ammunition that it’s easy. I’ll be back later with actual stats and websites backing them up. Too fun.