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Post#1681 » by UcanUwill » Tue Mar 11, 2025 1:33 pm

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og15 wrote:If he doesn't rig it (which I think is dumb anyways) any lottery team can win including the Mavs, so what you're really asking for is that the league should rig it against the Mavs in case they do win, lol


If the Mavs are in the lottery, they're going to have ~1% chance of winning the first overall pick. If they get it, it'd be as close to indisputable evidence the draft is rigged as you can get.

1% is a 1/100 chance, that's not low enough that if you absolutely don't want it to happen you just leave it up to chance. 1/100 is not some wild odds that are impossible to happen.

Of course rigging for the Mavs doesn't even make sense, and they are probably the last team the league would want to rig the draft for.


I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen. Why would the league even rig it for them? No matter who wins, someone will claim its rigged, these guys can spin conspiracy story for every outcome imaginable.
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Post#1682 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:30 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen.


That's some seriously messed up RNG.
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Post#1683 » by tsherkin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:32 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen.


That's some seriously messed up RNG.


Jagged Alliance, Fallout, the Shadowrun games... they all suffer badly from it.
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Post#1684 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:40 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen.


That's some seriously messed up RNG.


Jagged Alliance, Fallout, the Shadowrun games... they all suffer badly from it.

Testified. I've played them.
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Post#1685 » by tsherkin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:48 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
That's some seriously messed up RNG.


Jagged Alliance, Fallout, the Shadowrun games... they all suffer badly from it.

Testified. I've played them.


It hurts, man. You're like "HAH, 95%!" and like, guaranteed you're missing. Drives me mad.
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Post#1686 » by Inigo Montoya » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:04 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Jagged Alliance, Fallout, the Shadowrun games... they all suffer badly from it.

Testified. I've played them.


It hurts, man. You're like "HAH, 95%!" and like, guaranteed you're missing. Drives me mad.

Especially when playing on harder difficulties/iron man, or when you shoot someone from point blank range in X-Com and still miss. I feel your pain.
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Post#1687 » by tsherkin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:07 pm

Inigo Montoya wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:Testified. I've played them.


It hurts, man. You're like "HAH, 95%!" and like, guaranteed you're missing. Drives me mad.

Especially when playing on harder difficulties/iron man, or when you shoot someone from point blank range in X-Com and still miss. I feel your pain.


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Post#1688 » by Broadcaster » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:18 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
og15 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:
If the Mavs are in the lottery, they're going to have ~1% chance of winning the first overall pick. If they get it, it'd be as close to indisputable evidence the draft is rigged as you can get.

1% is a 1/100 chance, that's not low enough that if you absolutely don't want it to happen you just leave it up to chance. 1/100 is not some wild odds that are impossible to happen.

Of course rigging for the Mavs doesn't even make sense, and they are probably the last team the league would want to rig the draft for.


I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen. Why would the league even rig it for them? No matter who wins, someone will claim its rigged, these guys can spin conspiracy story for every outcome imaginable.


You act like everything in the world is exactly what you see.
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Post#1689 » by zero rings » Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:49 pm

Broadcaster wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
og15 wrote:1% is a 1/100 chance, that's not low enough that if you absolutely don't want it to happen you just leave it up to chance. 1/100 is not some wild odds that are impossible to happen.

Of course rigging for the Mavs doesn't even make sense, and they are probably the last team the league would want to rig the draft for.


I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen. Why would the league even rig it for them? No matter who wins, someone will claim its rigged, these guys can spin conspiracy story for every outcome imaginable.


You act like everything in the world is exactly what you see.


If you’re going to push conspiracy theories, at least make them about things that are of more consequence than the NBA draft lottery…
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Post#1690 » by Ferulci » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:41 pm

tsherkin wrote:
Inigo Montoya wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
Jagged Alliance, Fallout, the Shadowrun games... they all suffer badly from it.

Testified. I've played them.


It hurts, man. You're like "HAH, 95%!" and like, guaranteed you're missing. Drives me mad.

Random mildly interesting fact but I'm working as a game designer and now, in order to prevent this, whenever you have a 95%+ probability, they run the probability test twice (in the background) to make sure that even if you missed, the game does another attempt to "guarantee" the attack.
But I feel you: I lost lifespan screaming at 99% point blank missed shot in X-Com.
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Post#1691 » by tsherkin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:45 pm

Ferulci wrote:Random mildly interesting fact but I'm working as a game designer and now, in order to prevent this, whenever you have a 95%+ probability, they run the probability test twice (in the background) to make sure that even if you missed, the game does another attempt to "guarantee" the attack.


That sounds like a newer development. I doubt strongly it applies to games in the late 90s and early 2000s, because it was such a common thing that there couldn't have been any special checks against hilarious/ridiculous failures in volume. It's very Drago, but for the PC: "If he dies... *shrug* He dies."
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Post#1692 » by Roger Murdock » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:47 pm

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UcanUwill wrote:
og15 wrote:1% is a 1/100 chance, that's not low enough that if you absolutely don't want it to happen you just leave it up to chance. 1/100 is not some wild odds that are impossible to happen.

Of course rigging for the Mavs doesn't even make sense, and they are probably the last team the league would want to rig the draft for.


I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen. Why would the league even rig it for them? No matter who wins, someone will claim its rigged, these guys can spin conspiracy story for every outcome imaginable.


You act like everything in the world is exactly what you see.


You act like you don’t understand probability whatsoever.

Let’s put it this way. If the Mavs don’t win the lotto, is that indisputable proof the lotto isn’t rigged?
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Post#1693 » by og15 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 4:58 pm

The real team people should be worried about winning the lottery is the Spurs. They currently have a 6% chance, not high, but anything is possible. If the Spurs win the lottery and we have a decade + of Flagg + Wemby LOL. Sorry everyone.
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Post#1694 » by tsherkin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 5:01 pm

og15 wrote:The real team people should be worried about winning the lottery is the Spurs. They currently have a 6% chance, not high, but anything is possible. If the Spurs win the lottery and we have a decade + of Flagg + Wemby LOL. Sorry everyone.


NGL, that'd be kind of amazing.
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Post#1695 » by og15 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:19 pm

tsherkin wrote:
og15 wrote:The real team people should be worried about winning the lottery is the Spurs. They currently have a 6% chance, not high, but anything is possible. If the Spurs win the lottery and we have a decade + of Flagg + Wemby LOL. Sorry everyone.


NGL, that'd be kind of amazing.

From a pure basketball enjoyment factor, yes, from a not being a Spurs fan factor :cry:
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Post#1696 » by Castle Black » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:30 pm

og15 wrote:The real team people should be worried about winning the lottery is the Spurs. They currently have a 6% chance, not high, but anything is possible. If the Spurs win the lottery and we have a decade + of Flagg + Wemby LOL. Sorry everyone.


It's a fun dream but it's highly unlikely unfortunately. ATL turning out to be pretty good this year really hurt us as we own their First Round Pick. We thought for sure they'd be a bottom-8 team in the league but instead they're currently sitting with the 16th Pick. And Wemby's injury occurred too late in the year for us to properly tank. For shame.
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Post#1697 » by tsherkin » Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:57 pm

og15 wrote:
tsherkin wrote:
og15 wrote:The real team people should be worried about winning the lottery is the Spurs. They currently have a 6% chance, not high, but anything is possible. If the Spurs win the lottery and we have a decade + of Flagg + Wemby LOL. Sorry everyone.


NGL, that'd be kind of amazing.

From a pure basketball enjoyment factor, yes, from a not being a Spurs fan factor :cry:


I mean, I'll cede the point. But frankly, I just like seeing awesome basketball, so I wouldn't really mind overall. Toronto's won a title, and I don't expect that to happen again any time in the next couple decades, so... xD
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Post#1698 » by Broadcaster » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:03 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:
Broadcaster wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen. Why would the league even rig it for them? No matter who wins, someone will claim its rigged, these guys can spin conspiracy story for every outcome imaginable.


You act like everything in the world is exactly what you see.


You act like you don’t understand probability whatsoever.

Let’s put it this way. If the Mavs don’t win the lotto, is that indisputable proof the lotto isn’t rigged?


I didn’t say it was rigged. I have no idea. I don’t think dismissing people that are untrusting of the intentions of the league deserve to be written off like they’re crazy though.
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Post#1699 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:15 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:
og15 wrote:
Raps in 4 wrote:Silver better not give the pick to the Mavs. They don't deserve it.

He can rig it for anyone else and I won't mind. Just not the Mavs.

If he doesn't rig it (which I think is dumb anyways) any lottery team can win including the Mavs, so what you're really asking for is that the league should rig it against the Mavs in case they do win, lol


If the Mavs are in the lottery, they're going to have ~1% chance of winning the first overall pick. If they get it, it'd be as close to indisputable evidence the draft is rigged as you can get.

Uhh nope. That is just something that has a chance of happening, happening.
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Post#1700 » by Broadcaster » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:21 pm

zero rings wrote:
Broadcaster wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
I have missed 99% shots in Xcom, it can happen. Why would the league even rig it for them? No matter who wins, someone will claim its rigged, these guys can spin conspiracy story for every outcome imaginable.


You act like everything in the world is exactly what you see.


If you’re going to push conspiracy theories, at least make them about things that are of more consequence than the NBA draft lottery…


The only thing I’m pushing is we should be a little careful trusting what we hear and we shouldn’t put down people who lack that trust like they’re crazy. I don’t necessarily think the draft is rigged but I also wouldn’t put it against the league to do they want. They are allowed to. It’s their product.

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