2018/19 ROY/Rookie Discussion Thread (Pt 2)

[Pachinko_]

They need to get this kid some help in Dallas. I don't think I've ever said this about anyone 3 months into his NBA career, but there you go.

No one expected Doncic to be this good this quickly.

I was happy, but not elated, when the Mavs drafted him because I expected about a three season time table for him to become good. I thought he would average around 15/4/4 in his rookie season.
Now that Doncic is better than anyone expected the timeline for the post-Dirk era has been accelerated. I think the Mavs are already ahead of the curve here in their rebuild but what their next big move should be is a little unclear.

Honestly he reminds me of how I felt about Giannis and the Bucks, but that was on Giannis's 4th year. This is nuts.

[juanc]

Luka's last five games: 27,4/7/6,4/1,6 stl I mean.. Cmon

[Texas Chuck]

They need to get this kid some help in Dallas. I don't think I've ever said this about anyone 3 months into his NBA career, but there you go.

Team has between $55M and $87M in cap space this summer if they don't take on future salary in a trade this year. I'm sure the team is planning to get him some help. Whether or not vet FA's will want to come play with Luka remains to be seen but plan cap space sure looks a lot smarter now than it did 3 months ago before we saw Luka was this freaking good already.

[TheBonzaiEffect]

Another gem from Luka. Horrendous officiating...should have had 35+.

[Sactowndog]

They need to get this kid some help in Dallas. I don't think I've ever said this about anyone 3 months into his NBA career, but there you go.

No one expected Doncic to be this good this quickly.

I was happy, but not elated, when the Mavs drafted him because I expected about a three season time table for him to become good. I thought he would average around 15/4/4 in his rookie season.
Now that Doncic is better than anyone expected the timeline for the post-Dirk era has been accelerated. I think the Mavs are already ahead of the curve here in their rebuild but what their next big move should be is a little unclear.

Is Luka the Rookie of the year? Sure but let’s not loose sight of the fact that Pop was hunting him on defense the entire 4th quarter. Rudy Gay isolated him in the post and the Pop cleared out the entire team to one side of the court twice so his offensive player could attack Luka 1 v 1.

[zonedefense]

They need to get this kid some help in Dallas. I don't think I've ever said this about anyone 3 months into his NBA career, but there you go.

No one expected Doncic to be this good this quickly.

I was happy, but not elated, when the Mavs drafted him because I expected about a three season time table for him to become good. I thought he would average around 15/4/4 in his rookie season.
Now that Doncic is better than anyone expected the timeline for the post-Dirk era has been accelerated. I think the Mavs are already ahead of the curve here in their rebuild but what their next big move should be is a little unclear.

Is Luka the Rookie of the year? Sure but let’s not loose sight of the fact that Pop was hunting him on defense the entire 4th quarter. Rudy Gay isolated him in the post and the Pop cleared out the entire team to one side of the court twice so his offensive player could attack Luka 1 v 1.

Watched a different game? Gay didn´t score a single point in the 4th. Pop exposed DAJs pick and roll defense. DeRozan vs Barnes. Screen...switch. DeRozan hits an open midrange jumper or goes to the rim. Sometimes he kicked it out for an open 3s.
Jordan is a huge liability if he has to defend in space...feels like he is worse than DIrk but that´s probably not possible.

[jourdy]

They need to get this kid some help in Dallas. I don't think I've ever said this about anyone 3 months into his NBA career, but there you go.

No one expected Doncic to be this good this quickly.

I was happy, but not elated, when the Mavs drafted him because I expected about a three season time table for him to become good. I thought he would average around 15/4/4 in his rookie season.
Now that Doncic is better than anyone expected the timeline for the post-Dirk era has been accelerated. I think the Mavs are already ahead of the curve here in their rebuild but what their next big move should be is a little unclear.

Is Luka the Rookie of the year? Sure but let’s not loose sight of the fact that Pop was hunting him on defense the entire 4th quarter. Rudy Gay isolated him in the post and the Pop cleared out the entire team to one side of the court twice so his offensive player could attack Luka 1 v 1.

That was DeRozan and it was 1 play. Got switched.

[Sactowndog]

No one expected Doncic to be this good this quickly.

I was happy, but not elated, when the Mavs drafted him because I expected about a three season time table for him to become good. I thought he would average around 15/4/4 in his rookie season.
Now that Doncic is better than anyone expected the timeline for the post-Dirk era has been accelerated. I think the Mavs are already ahead of the curve here in their rebuild but what their next big move should be is a little unclear.

Is Luka the Rookie of the year? Sure but let’s not loose sight of the fact that Pop was hunting him on defense the entire 4th quarter. Rudy Gay isolated him in the post and the Pop cleared out the entire team to one side of the court twice so his offensive player could attack Luka 1 v 1.

That was DeRozan and it was 1 play. Got switched.

Dude they cleared out to go at him twice.

[Johnny Firpo]

Dude they cleared out to go at him twice.

Isoing him consistently clearly didn't work and they went away from it, so your point? He got a steal on the second Gay iso, and they never ran that play again.

[TheBonzaiEffect]

Luka records 25-8-8 line in a Loss vs Spurs... He scored at least 25 Pts in each of his last 5 games

Watch on YouTube

Luka was fouled on damn near half of those baskets with no call. Not to mention a number of no-calls on misses, most notably the late three where he drew contact from White. Despicable.

[koyotee]

Doncic had a good game. You could see the small player guarding him getting frustrated. But the other player on the team are just utter trash.

[Bob8]

They need to get this kid some help in Dallas. I don't think I've ever said this about anyone 3 months into his NBA career, but there you go.

No one expected Doncic to be this good this quickly.

I was happy, but not elated, when the Mavs drafted him because I expected about a three season time table for him to become good. I thought he would average around 15/4/4 in his rookie season.
Now that Doncic is better than anyone expected the timeline for the post-Dirk era has been accelerated. I think the Mavs are already ahead of the curve here in their rebuild but what their next big move should be is a little unclear.

Is Luka the Rookie of the year? Sure but let’s not loose sight of the fact that Pop was hunting him on defense the entire 4th quarter. Rudy Gay isolated him in the post and the Pop cleared out the entire team to one side of the court twice so his offensive player could attack Luka 1 v 1.

You can easily leave ROY out and just ask yourself, how many rookies will be able to produce numbers, that Luka is producing in last month, ever? Or maybe easier question, how many NBA players are able to have 25/8/8 on regular basis? I know, his ceiling is low, but it looks to me that his floor is the same as his presumed ceiling.

You’re right, he’s not and will never be good defender, but who even care, if he’s able to have 25/8/8 on an average shooting night. And by the way, with +8, he had the best +/- in Mavs team.

[nikster]

Luka records 25-8-8 line in a Loss vs Spurs... He scored at least 25 Pts in each of his last 5 games

Watch on YouTube

His vision was on display here. His ability to find the corner 3 from anywhere on the court makes him such an effective passer.

[Ascrilas]

Luka's last five games: 27,4/7/6,4/1,6 stl I mean.. Cmon

Not only 27.4/7.0/6.4/1.6, but he also did it on .581 TS% and with only 2.6 TOV/G...we're already at the point where I expect him to have at least 25/5/5, like, it doesn't even feel special anymore to me. Which makes sense because he's an all-star already.

[Pachinko_]

Τhe Mavs should keep their bench, Luka, and nothing in between.

[mcmurphy]

Luka's last five games: 27,4/7/6,4/1,6 stl I mean.. Cmon

Not only 27.4/7.0/6.4/1.6, but he also did it on .581 TS% and with only 2.6 TOV/G...we're already at the point where I expect him to have at least 25/5/5, like, it doesn't even feel special anymore to me. Which makes sense because he's an all-star already.

in the last 5 games has 5 3PA at 0:00 sec at the end of periods...

instead of 16/43 should be 16/38 if protected his percentages like Durant (but one attempt if made could change the fate of inline games in spite of worse personal %)

16/43 ==> 37.2%
16/38 ==> 42.1%

ts% from .581 to .607

the difference between a winner and a cupcake

[gh123]

Luka's last five games: 27,4/7/6,4/1,6 stl I mean.. Cmon

Not only 27.4/7.0/6.4/1.6, but he also did it on .581 TS% and with only 2.6 TOV/G...we're already at the point where I expect him to have at least 25/5/5, like, it doesn't even feel special anymore to me. Which makes sense because he's an all-star already.

in the last 5 games has 5 3PA at 0:00 sec at the end of periods...

instead of 16/43 should be 16/38 if protected his percentages like Durant (but one attempt if made could change the fate of inline games in spite of worse personal %)

16/43 ==> 37.2%
16/38 ==> 42.1%

ts% from .581 to .607

the difference between a winner and a cupcake

Or like Barnes and Wes, hoping for a bigger contract. Coz you know, extra 1% from 3 matters even if you're a complete burden lol.

[mcmurphy]

Not only 27.4/7.0/6.4/1.6, but he also did it on .581 TS% and with only 2.6 TOV/G...we're already at the point where I expect him to have at least 25/5/5, like, it doesn't even feel special anymore to me. Which makes sense because he's an all-star already.

in the last 5 games has 5 3PA at 0:00 sec at the end of periods...

instead of 16/43 should be 16/38 if protected his percentages like Durant (but one attempt if made could change the fate of inline games in spite of worse personal %)

16/43 ==> 37.2%
16/38 ==> 42.1%

ts% from .581 to .607

the difference between a winner and a cupcake

Or like Barnes and Wes, hoping for a bigger contract. Coz you know, extra 1% from 3 matters even if you're a complete burden lol.

what's your problem with Barnes and Wes... outside of be a Juventus fan?

is worse a superstar that protect his percentage that a role player... you are payed 150mln dollars to win

[Johnny Firpo]

Τhe Mavs should keep their bench, Luka, and nothing in between.

It sounds ridiculous, but that is actually what they should do. Either you get a star FA this summer, or you get your second piece next year's draft, or this year's draft even, if our pick winds up in the top 5. If you don't get a star FA, you probably want to take a look at one-year contracts, in the mold of DeAndre. Once you have a second legitimate star either through the draft or the FA, you start build around your duo and go for contention as soon as possible. But until you have your second star or star prospect, you shouldn't rush anything. Do you guys agree?

[gh123]

in the last 5 games has 5 3PA at 0:00 sec at the end of periods...

instead of 16/43 should be 16/38 if protected his percentages like Durant (but one attempt if made could change the fate of inline games in spite of worse personal %)

16/43 ==> 37.2%
16/38 ==> 42.1%

ts% from .581 to .607

the difference between a winner and a cupcake

Or like Barnes and Wes, hoping for a bigger contract. Coz you know, extra 1% from 3 matters even if you're a complete burden lol.

what's your problem with Barnes and Wes... outside of be a Juventus fan?

is worse a superstar that protect his percentage that a role player... you are payed 150mln dollars to win

Wes is a G-league player and Barnes is just a salty sad piece of trash.
And what's wrong with being a Juve fan? Still mad about yesterday? Not my fault your FO is incompetent. You should root for us, since we've been carrying all of Italy for about 7 years now.