Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[Golden Knight]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

Apparently ignorant of the fact. Curry once scored 51 points with 1 free throw.

I'd love to hear you name all the high-volume scorers in NBA history less dependent on free throws than Curry.

Since 1975, Curry is the only player with multiple 50 point games on less than 5 FTs.

vs Washington in 2016 - 51 pts, 2-3 FT

vs Orlando in 2016 - 51 pts, 1-1 FT

In that period, Jordan (1988 52 pts 4 FTs) is the only other MVP who have managed the feat.

[WarriorGM]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

[MrBigShot]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

[JN61]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

Not sure player who has their team on the 10th spot in their conference is MVP caliber player. That is definition of empty numbers historically on these boards.

[WarriorGM]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

Not sure player who has their team on the 10th spot in their conference is MVP caliber player. That is definition of empty numbers historically on these boards.

Another attempt at an argument where the complete reverse would be closer to the mark. Empty stats is usually used to describe big numbers from players who have a history of producing not much else. Curry on the contrary has a history of winning. 5 straight finals with multiple championships and the only player to have 3 straight seasons leading 67-plus-win teams vitiates this narrative. If there is a player in NBA history who produces the opposite of empty stats Curry would be near the top of the list.

[lars_rosenberg]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

Not sure player who has their team on the 10th spot in their conference is MVP caliber player. That is definition of empty numbers historically on these boards.

That's a very superficial take.
Steph has won championships and he's carrying the worst team in the league, by history (last season) and numbers (Curry off-the-court stats), to playoff contention.

[God Squad]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

Not sure player who has their team on the 10th spot in their conference is MVP caliber player. That is definition of empty numbers historically on these boards.

Well, We know where you stand on the "Curry has been exposed" stance.

[Arlo]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

Apparently ignorant of the fact. Curry once scored 51 points with 1 free throw.

I'd love to hear you name all the high-volume scorers in NBA history less dependent on free throws than Curry.

Since 1975, Curry is the only player with multiple 50 point games on less than 5 FTs.

vs Washington in 2016 - 51 pts, 2-3 FT

vs Orlando in 2016 - 51 pts, 1-1 FT

In that period, Jordan (1988 52 pts 4 FTs) is the only other MVP who have managed the feat.

Well sure...anyone can sound convincing if you want to bring facts into it...

[grindtime22]

The Warriors are being outscored by 13 pts per 100 possessions with him off the court and they are outscoring opponents by 3 pts per 100 with him on the court.

Does anything else really need to be said? I'm not sure how that could possibly be viewed as empty.

[bovice]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But if you go through any player who produces 50+ points, they all consistent of double digit free throws. Manufactured in the sense I believe you are alluding to would be guys going to the line 15-20 times a night and hardly ever hitting 40/50 points. James Harden, Trae Young, for example.

Curry literately just dropped 38 the night before on 4 free throws. No other superstar in the league is less dependant on flopping/fishing for fouls.

my point is that unlike harden/lebron/westbrook/etc...whose games relies on contact, i find it odd when curry gets 16 free throw attempts in 1 game. it's not his playstyle and it leads me to believe there were some questionable calls in his favor.

sure, curry has had 40/50+ nights with low free throws attempts and probably holds some sort of record in that regard, but this season his biggest nights tend to be in games where he had higher than average throw attempts and i find it suspect.

[Danny1616]

Curry is quickly becoming one of the most underrated and underappreciated players in NBA history.

Best PG in NBA history after Magic and the most transformative player in the league since Jordan.

[dhsilv2]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

Not sure player who has their team on the 10th spot in their conference is MVP caliber player. That is definition of empty numbers historically on these boards.

With curry 25-21
Without Curry 1-7

So they'd be the 4 seed in the east with that first winning percentage and on a 10 win pace without him.

I think saying caliber vs contender is very fair here.

Now we also do look at RAPM or RPM sometimes and guys with big PER or BPM or whatever stats that don't match with those metrics can get called empty. Last I checked Curry was top 5 in that metric (where an MVP ideally should be or near it at least). Sometimes we use on off a bit. Near the top there. Yeah none of the traditional "empty" stuff would apply here at all. Curry looks like a high protein high vitamin meal.

[Jadoogar]

His legacy has taken a brutal hit the last year and counting. He’s more a system player than a superstar .

Pharmcat the king!!!!

[Ballerhogger]

without curry the are lottery team actually worst team in the west. With him they are decent and fringe playoff team

[BoatsNZones]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

Fun fact (said without sarcasm for the first time in history): The 2016 73 win Warriors were a -4.6 with him off the floor (+18 with him on). Floor high-riser.

[Ballerhogger]

His legacy has taken a brutal hit the last year and counting. He’s more a system player than a superstar .

Pharmcat the king!!!!

THE PROHPET HAS SPOKEN

[Peregrine01]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But if you go through any player who produces 50+ points, they all consistent of double digit free throws. Manufactured in the sense I believe you are alluding to would be guys going to the line 15-20 times a night and hardly ever hitting 40/50 points. James Harden, Trae Young, for example.

Curry literately just dropped 38 the night before on 4 free throws. No other superstar in the league is less dependant on flopping/fishing for fouls.

my point is that unlike harden/lebron/westbrook/etc...whose games relies on contact, i find it odd when curry gets 16 free throw attempts in 1 game. it's not his playstyle and it leads me to believe there were some questionable calls in his favor.

sure, curry has had 40/50+ nights with low free throws attempts and probably holds some sort of record in that regard, but this season his biggest nights tend to be in games where he had higher than average throw attempts and i find it suspect.

Which is why you need to watch the game. In the Portland game he was driving to the basket relentlessly. Last night, he was getting fouled to stop the clock.

And lol at comparing him to Harden, who gets more fouls on 3s than the next 4 guys combined in the last 2 seasons.

[michaelm]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But if you go through any player who produces 50+ points, they all consistent of double digit free throws. Manufactured in the sense I believe you are alluding to would be guys going to the line 15-20 times a night and hardly ever hitting 40/50 points. James Harden, Trae Young, for example.

Curry literately just dropped 38 the night before on 4 free throws. No other superstar in the league is less dependant on flopping/fishing for fouls.

my point is that unlike harden/lebron/westbrook/etc...whose games relies on contact, i find it odd when curry gets 16 free throw attempts in 1 game. it's not his playstyle and it leads me to believe there were some questionable calls in his favor.

sure, curry has had 40/50+ nights with low free throws attempts and probably holds some sort of record in that regard, but this season his biggest nights tend to be in games where he had higher than average throw attempts and i find it suspect.

Is that a traditional English long bow you are employing ?.

You don’t think he might be playing a different way this year with no other shooters on his team and defences being able to focus even more on him ?. He actually is also very efficient inside 3 feet btw.

[Kobe187]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But if you go through any player who produces 50+ points, they all consistent of double digit free throws. Manufactured in the sense I believe you are alluding to would be guys going to the line 15-20 times a night and hardly ever hitting 40/50 points. James Harden, Trae Young, for example.

Curry literately just dropped 38 the night before on 4 free throws. No other superstar in the league is less dependant on flopping/fishing for fouls.

my point is that unlike harden/lebron/westbrook/etc...whose games relies on contact, i find it odd when curry gets 16 free throw attempts in 1 game. it's not his playstyle and it leads me to believe there were some questionable calls in his favor.

sure, curry has had 40/50+ nights with low free throws attempts and probably holds some sort of record in that regard, but this season his biggest nights tend to be in games where he had higher than average throw attempts and i find it suspect.

He’s driving a lot more than he used to (gained a couple pounds of muscle too). He’s shifty, agile, and quick; defenders are having a tough time guarding him and the fouls are definitely legitimate (he’s not getting the Lebron treatment). Last night 4 attempts came on deliberate fouls in the last minute as the Nuggets were trying to claw back into it, watch the games.

[clyde21]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

this has already been addressed but needed to point out, again, that this post is a complete lie.