Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (5) Toronto Raptors (PHI 3-2)

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Series Prediction for 76ers vs. Raptors?

76ers in 4
46
25%
76ers in 5
40
22%
76ers in 6
11
6%
76ers in 7
4
2%
Raptors in 6
12
7%
Raptors in 7
70
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Post#1721 » by Duffman100 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:04 am

ceiling raiser wrote:Embarrassing game for Philly. Siakam is a glorified sixth man on a good team, garbage man on a non-playoff squad, and he ate up their defense today. Shame.


It's just not even a good troll job.
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Post#1722 » by baller16 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:07 am

ceiling raiser wrote:Embarrassing game for Philly. Siakam is a glorified sixth man on a good team, garbage man on a non-playoff squad, and he ate up their defense today. Shame.


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Post#1723 » by mtcan » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:11 am

ceiling raiser wrote:Embarrassing game for Philly. Siakam is a glorified sixth man on a good team, garbage man on a non-playoff squad, and he ate up their defense today. Shame.

Glorified 6th man? Dude's already made an all-NBA team has been an all-star. He already put up a triple double against you just a couple of weeks ago. LOL.

But yes Philly fans should be ashamed...your franchise player is an immature little bitch who throws temper tantrums when he's losing and cries like a child after losing.

Why do Philly fans go out of their way to say stupid **** after losing a game? And to make it worse...they are just begging to be dunked on. It's so sad.
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Post#1724 » by boycottlettuce » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:13 am

ceiling raiser wrote:Embarrassing game for Philly. Siakam is a glorified sixth man on a good team, garbage man on a non-playoff squad, and he ate up their defense today. Shame.


This seems like a 2020 post bubble take. I don't watch the Raptors other than national tv games, so I can see where that opinion comes from, but supposedly he's been all-star Siakam in 2022. I mean, he did make a lot of good moves and tough shots this game. Looking forward to the series continuing. I wonder if Thybulle gets time on him.

Edit: just realized the it's the 4th reply in row to this take :lol:
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Post#1725 » by Quattro » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:15 am

Embiid to Nick Nurse after game 2 - stop complaining about the officials!

Embiid after todays game - the refs are corrupt.

Guy just keeps reinforcing that he’s a complete douche bag.
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Post#1726 » by aminiaturebuddha » Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:17 am

Duffman100 wrote:
ceiling raiser wrote:Embarrassing game for Philly. Siakam is a glorified sixth man on a good team, garbage man on a non-playoff squad, and he ate up their defense today. Shame.


It's just not even a good troll job.


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Post#1727 » by PushDaRock » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:49 am

I think the Raptors have a good shot in Game 5. The no PG line-up seems to be very effective out there. The Raptors also won this game with atrocious 3 point shooting going 8-34, you rarely see teams win this games shooting this poorly. Philly is also probably due for a reversion to the mean shooting game after shooting 45% from 3 on 14 makes per game this series.
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Post#1728 » by 76ciology » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:10 am

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76ciology wrote:Long term, I think Raps should replace both GTJ and FVV if they really want to be switchable on defense.


So you want them to eliminate guards entirely (as well as their 2 best shooters)? As far as switchable guards go, those 2 rate very highly. Trent is 6'6" (shoes) with a 6'9" wingspan. Fred is very stout against most matchups. Obviously forwards are inherently more switchable due to size, but a team needs to be able to do more than just switch on defense.

Even with Barnes out, this is arguably the most switchable team of all-time. They don't need to become more switchable, they need to shore up their primary weaknesses: rim pressure, backline defense, size at center, and shooting. I think the Raps knew all season they were short 1 rotation guard and 1 center. They chased centers hard at the trade deadline (Poetl, Nerlens Noel, Porzingis) before they settled for Thadd.

The Raps hoped they could fluster Embiid enough with their switching defense, but evidently clearly underestimated him. Even if they were even more switchable, it wouldn't have helped with this matchup. It's too important with Embiid to have at least 1 primary defender who can bother him. I bet the Raps continue their chase for a workable center this offseason. It's been their biggest problem since Gasol left.


Look how much better Raps played without FVV.

If Raps can replace FVV and GTJ with guys with size and can switch, they can win the Siakam vs your top scorer battle with their defense helping Raps wins the points per possession exchange. Its not that they’re missing a lot with FVV and GTJ, specially if you can replace them with guys who can space the floor for Siakam or a more developed Barnes to attack.

Siakam (and eventually Barnes) aren’t so skilled but you can always hunt the weak/small defender where they can score high points per possession against on ISO.

Not totally the same, but its similar to what Celts has built with a heavy wing roster that has the secret sauce on how to play elite defense with how the game is being called.

Thats just my opinion and you know better for you have watched more raps game than me so i can be wrong.
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Post#1729 » by 76ciology » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:13 am

Sixers Defense:

Similar to game 3, sixers switched to zone defense with around 7 minutes remaining in the second quarter.

But unlike game 3, Raps came prepared and had Thad play quarter back at the middle of the zone that destroyed our defense by pulling out Embiid and taking advantage of Boucher being defended by our weak defender and other cutters.

Remember when the Raps would attack Siakam, drop it to a cutter at the rim and score? They added another layer with Thad.

Siakam drives. Drops it to Thad. Then Thad passing to the cutting Boucher who’s being defended by our midget.

Siakam was on fire but I do think Harris, Reed and Embiid were all OK to good on their defense. This game I think Raps respected Tobi’s defense and they hunted Niang’s defense and this lead to Siakam’s big game.

Siakam scored easily on Niang. Embiid did had some trouble scorinh against Thad and the Raps defense. Yikes..

Sixers did a really bad job limiting second shot opportunities. The Orebs lead to 2-3 3pters this game if im not mistaken.

Sixers Offense:

Similar to game 3, Embiid struggled when attacking at the post. Embiid has more success attacking from the FT line area. Facing up.

But unlike game 3, Embiid never really switched it up. Yes, he did some face-up but he still had a lot of post/left baseline 1v1 possessions.

Embiid should know by now that the refs are less likely to blow their whistle if he tries to attack from the post. And he saw it on game 3 and he saw it again this game.

Thad was the X factor for the Raps this game. Thad made Embiid look like Mozgov when Warriors played smallball. Whenever Embiid scores or shoots, Raps would push hard
down the court with Embiid trailing on defense.

Sixers tries to punish the Raps playing Thad by C. Embiid bullying Thad in the post does not work. So they tried letting Thad switch to Harden where Harden has been effective and was again effective on ISO against Thad.

Harden for me played a good game. But in games like this where Embiid is as I would describe it “spiritually absent”, Harden should show his value where he can revert to a more Houston version of Harden. Im not saying he should revert back to his MVP form always, but what im hoping is that he should have a switch when we need him to be one.

The other night I saw the Suns without Booker beat the Pels. It was a tight game and CP3 just took over down the stretch. Its the same thing I want from James. I thought he showed some signs of being able to do that when he scored like 8 pts in the 4th quarter at some point trying to single handedly get the game close. But I selfishly want more..

Maxey again showed his a fool’s gold. He’s really average at best in getting separation and is just feeding off the gravity James is getting.

The brightspots in this game are both Reed and Tobias. I thought Reed played a good game. His defense against Siakam was good, Siakam just made those shots. He also knocked down a 3. I hope we can see some Tobias-Reed-Embiid 3-4-5 in the future.

Tobias didnt have a great shooting night. He knocked down 1 3pter via a stepback at the left wing. But he played aggressive and efficient on both ends.

Overall:

We lose this game simply because..

Siakam scoring against good defense vs Embiid struggling against bad defense

Then you add that Raps has both 10 FTA disparity. They shot 35 FTAs, 12 more than their season average.

I dont know if there was a team we faced that had more FTAs than us since we got Harden.

Then you add the fact that they have 5 less TOs and 5 more ORebs.

You lose on the 1v1 scoring contest..
you got less extra points from FTs…
And you got less opportunities with TOs and OREBS.

It was a steep mountain to climb.

Brightside? We just lose by 8pts. This should have been atleast 20 if we faced the Bucks.
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Post#1730 » by Lou84 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:44 am

Good game by the raptors, they earned this one. Besides Harris I didn't like the performance of my sixers today so much. Got to close it out next game. Especially on defense. Joel is banged up and defenders are focusing on his right hand. Harris seems to have a problem with his ankle as well. Best (ex)sixer was Thad. Had a good game, happy for him. :-)

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Post#1731 » by Caped Crusader » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:01 am

76ciology wrote:Sixers Defense:

Similar to game 3, sixers switched to zone defense with around 7 minutes remaining in the second quarter.

But unlike game 3, Raps came prepared and had Thad play quarter back at the middle of the zone that destroyed our defense by pulling out Embiid and taking advantage of Boucher being defended by our weak defender and other cutters.

Remember when the Raps would attack Siakam, drop it to a cutter at the rim and score? They added another layer with Thad.

Siakam drives. Drops it to Thad. Then Thad passing to the cutting Boucher who’s being defended by our midget.

Siakam was on fire but I do think Harris, Reed and Embiid were all OK to good on their defense. This game I think Raps respected Tobi’s defense and they hunted Niang’s defense and this lead to Siakam’s big game.

Siakam scored easily on Niang. Embiid did had some trouble scorinh against Thad and the Raps defense. Yikes..

Sixers did a really bad job limiting second shot opportunities. The Orebs lead to 2-3 3pters this game if im not mistaken.

Sixers Offense:

Similar to game 3, Embiid struggled when attacking at the post. Embiid has more success attacking from the FT line area. Facing up.

But unlike game 3, Embiid never really switched it up. Yes, he did some face-up but he still had a lot of post/left baseline 1v1 possessions.

Embiid should know by now that the refs are less likely to blow their whistle if he tries to attack from the post. And he saw it on game 3 and he saw it again this game.

Thad was the X factor for the Raps this game. Thad made Embiid look like Mozgov when Warriors played smallball. Whenever Embiid scores or shoots, Raps would push hard
down the court with Embiid trailing on defense.

Sixers tries to punish the Raps playing Thad by C. Embiid bullying Thad in the post does not work. So they tried letting Thad switch to Harden where Harden has been effective and was again effective on ISO against Thad.

Harden for me played a good game. But in games like this where Embiid is as I would describe it “spiritually absent”, Harden should show his value where he can revert to a more Houston version of Harden. Im not saying he should revert back to his MVP form always, but what im hoping is that he should have a switch when we need him to be one.

The other night I saw the Suns without Booker beat the Pels. It was a tight game and CP3 just took over down the stretch. Its the same thing I want from James. I thought he showed some signs of being able to do that when he scored like 8 pts in the 4th quarter at some point trying to single handedly get the game close. But I selfishly want more..

Maxey again showed his a fool’s gold. He’s really average at best in getting separation and is just feeding off the gravity James is getting.

The brightspots in this game are both Reed and Tobias. I thought Reed played a good game. His defense against Siakam was good, Siakam just made those shots. He also knocked down a 3. I hope we can see some Tobias-Reed-Embiid 3-4-5 in the future.

Tobias didnt have a great shooting night. He knocked down 1 3pter via a stepback at the left wing. But he played aggressive and efficient on both ends.

Overall:

We lose this game simply because..

Siakam scoring against good defense vs Embiid struggling against bad defense

Then you add that Raps has both 10 FTA disparity. They shot 35 FTAs, 12 more than their season average.

I dont know if there was a team we faced that had more FTAs than us since we got Harden.

Then you add the fact that they have 5 less TOs and 5 more ORebs.

You lose on the 1v1 scoring contest..
you got less extra points from FTs…
And you got less opportunities with TOs and OREBS.

It was a steep mountain to climb.

Brightside? We just lose by 8pts. This should have been atleast 20 if we faced the Bucks.


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Post#1732 » by Sofia » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:12 am

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That’s cute but come on. No team has come back from 3 down, and the Raptors have to win 2 games in phili.


Suppose they should’ve just called the series off at 3-0 then


Look nothing would make me happier than winning the series, but come on. No way the 76ers let that happen


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Post#1733 » by 76ciology » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:21 am

Spoiler:
Caped Crusader wrote:
76ciology wrote:Sixers Defense:

Similar to game 3, sixers switched to zone defense with around 7 minutes remaining in the second quarter.

But unlike game 3, Raps came prepared and had Thad play quarter back at the middle of the zone that destroyed our defense by pulling out Embiid and taking advantage of Boucher being defended by our weak defender and other cutters.

Remember when the Raps would attack Siakam, drop it to a cutter at the rim and score? They added another layer with Thad.

Siakam drives. Drops it to Thad. Then Thad passing to the cutting Boucher who’s being defended by our midget.

Siakam was on fire but I do think Harris, Reed and Embiid were all OK to good on their defense. This game I think Raps respected Tobi’s defense and they hunted Niang’s defense and this lead to Siakam’s big game.

Siakam scored easily on Niang. Embiid did had some trouble scorinh against Thad and the Raps defense. Yikes..

Sixers did a really bad job limiting second shot opportunities. The Orebs lead to 2-3 3pters this game if im not mistaken.

Sixers Offense:

Similar to game 3, Embiid struggled when attacking at the post. Embiid has more success attacking from the FT line area. Facing up.

But unlike game 3, Embiid never really switched it up. Yes, he did some face-up but he still had a lot of post/left baseline 1v1 possessions.

Embiid should know by now that the refs are less likely to blow their whistle if he tries to attack from the post. And he saw it on game 3 and he saw it again this game.

Thad was the X factor for the Raps this game. Thad made Embiid look like Mozgov when Warriors played smallball. Whenever Embiid scores or shoots, Raps would push hard
down the court with Embiid trailing on defense.

Sixers tries to punish the Raps playing Thad by C. Embiid bullying Thad in the post does not work. So they tried letting Thad switch to Harden where Harden has been effective and was again effective on ISO against Thad.

Harden for me played a good game. But in games like this where Embiid is as I would describe it “spiritually absent”, Harden should show his value where he can revert to a more Houston version of Harden. Im not saying he should revert back to his MVP form always, but what im hoping is that he should have a switch when we need him to be one.

The other night I saw the Suns without Booker beat the Pels. It was a tight game and CP3 just took over down the stretch. Its the same thing I want from James. I thought he showed some signs of being able to do that when he scored like 8 pts in the 4th quarter at some point trying to single handedly get the game close. But I selfishly want more..

Maxey again showed his a fool’s gold. He’s really average at best in getting separation and is just feeding off the gravity James is getting.

The brightspots in this game are both Reed and Tobias. I thought Reed played a good game. His defense against Siakam was good, Siakam just made those shots. He also knocked down a 3. I hope we can see some Tobias-Reed-Embiid 3-4-5 in the future.

Tobias didnt have a great shooting night. He knocked down 1 3pter via a stepback at the left wing. But he played aggressive and efficient on both ends.

Overall:

We lose this game simply because..

Siakam scoring against good defense vs Embiid struggling against bad defense

Then you add that Raps has both 10 FTA disparity. They shot 35 FTAs, 12 more than their season average.

I dont know if there was a team we faced that had more FTAs than us since we got Harden.

Then you add the fact that they have 5 less TOs and 5 more ORebs.

You lose on the 1v1 scoring contest..
you got less extra points from FTs…
And you got less opportunities with TOs and OREBS.

It was a steep mountain to climb.

Brightside? We just lose by 8pts. This should have been atleast 20 if we faced the Bucks.


Ah yes the classic "they won because we lost" explanation.

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How? I didnt just mentioned FTs. There were several factors why we lose that i mentioned such Embiid failing to score efficiently with volume against the mismatch (thad), getting out rebounded and TO.

Regarding FTs. I’d like to mention that Siakam average 5FTAs in the regular season and 4 FTAs in the playoffs. Sixers has done a great job of defending Siakam on single coverage and this is shown by his 4FTAs, -4ppg (22ppg vs 18ppg) average reg season vs playoffs and 40FG%.

Siakam tonight got 15FTAs, 3x more than his regular season average and almost 4x his average in the last 3 games.

Raps average 22 FTAs per game in the reg season, they got to the line 35 times. Usually teams go to the line above their mean only when the opposing team can’t stop the scorer due to mismatch.

If it’s because of Niang. Then yes, we lose the FT battle because of US.

If it’s not because of Niang, then we lose the FT battle because of the refs.
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Post#1734 » by Clay Davis » Sun Apr 24, 2022 6:25 am

Caped Crusader wrote:
76ciology wrote:Sixers Defense:

Similar to game 3, sixers switched to zone defense with around 7 minutes remaining in the second quarter.

But unlike game 3, Raps came prepared and had Thad play quarter back at the middle of the zone that destroyed our defense by pulling out Embiid and taking advantage of Boucher being defended by our weak defender and other cutters.

Remember when the Raps would attack Siakam, drop it to a cutter at the rim and score? They added another layer with Thad.

Siakam drives. Drops it to Thad. Then Thad passing to the cutting Boucher who’s being defended by our midget.

Siakam was on fire but I do think Harris, Reed and Embiid were all OK to good on their defense. This game I think Raps respected Tobi’s defense and they hunted Niang’s defense and this lead to Siakam’s big game.

Siakam scored easily on Niang. Embiid did had some trouble scorinh against Thad and the Raps defense. Yikes..

Sixers did a really bad job limiting second shot opportunities. The Orebs lead to 2-3 3pters this game if im not mistaken.

Sixers Offense:

Similar to game 3, Embiid struggled when attacking at the post. Embiid has more success attacking from the FT line area. Facing up.

But unlike game 3, Embiid never really switched it up. Yes, he did some face-up but he still had a lot of post/left baseline 1v1 possessions.

Embiid should know by now that the refs are less likely to blow their whistle if he tries to attack from the post. And he saw it on game 3 and he saw it again this game.

Thad was the X factor for the Raps this game. Thad made Embiid look like Mozgov when Warriors played smallball. Whenever Embiid scores or shoots, Raps would push hard
down the court with Embiid trailing on defense.

Sixers tries to punish the Raps playing Thad by C. Embiid bullying Thad in the post does not work. So they tried letting Thad switch to Harden where Harden has been effective and was again effective on ISO against Thad.

Harden for me played a good game. But in games like this where Embiid is as I would describe it “spiritually absent”, Harden should show his value where he can revert to a more Houston version of Harden. Im not saying he should revert back to his MVP form always, but what im hoping is that he should have a switch when we need him to be one.

The other night I saw the Suns without Booker beat the Pels. It was a tight game and CP3 just took over down the stretch. Its the same thing I want from James. I thought he showed some signs of being able to do that when he scored like 8 pts in the 4th quarter at some point trying to single handedly get the game close. But I selfishly want more..

Maxey again showed his a fool’s gold. He’s really average at best in getting separation and is just feeding off the gravity James is getting.

The brightspots in this game are both Reed and Tobias. I thought Reed played a good game. His defense against Siakam was good, Siakam just made those shots. He also knocked down a 3. I hope we can see some Tobias-Reed-Embiid 3-4-5 in the future.

Tobias didnt have a great shooting night. He knocked down 1 3pter via a stepback at the left wing. But he played aggressive and efficient on both ends.

Overall:

We lose this game simply because..

Siakam scoring against good defense vs Embiid struggling against bad defense

Then you add that Raps has both 10 FTA disparity. They shot 35 FTAs, 12 more than their season average.

I dont know if there was a team we faced that had more FTAs than us since we got Harden.

Then you add the fact that they have 5 less TOs and 5 more ORebs.

You lose on the 1v1 scoring contest..
you got less extra points from FTs…
And you got less opportunities with TOs and OREBS.

It was a steep mountain to climb.

Brightside? We just lose by 8pts. This should have been atleast 20 if we faced the Bucks.


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Post#1735 » by California Gold » Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:19 am

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Childs wrote:
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Suppose they should’ve just called the series off at 3-0 then


Look nothing would make me happier than winning the series, but come on. No way the 76ers let that happen


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Post#1736 » by everdiso » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:28 am

76ciology wrote:
Spoiler:
Caped Crusader wrote:
76ciology wrote:Sixers Defense:

Similar to game 3, sixers switched to zone defense with around 7 minutes remaining in the second quarter.

But unlike game 3, Raps came prepared and had Thad play quarter back at the middle of the zone that destroyed our defense by pulling out Embiid and taking advantage of Boucher being defended by our weak defender and other cutters.

Remember when the Raps would attack Siakam, drop it to a cutter at the rim and score? They added another layer with Thad.

Siakam drives. Drops it to Thad. Then Thad passing to the cutting Boucher who’s being defended by our midget.

Siakam was on fire but I do think Harris, Reed and Embiid were all OK to good on their defense. This game I think Raps respected Tobi’s defense and they hunted Niang’s defense and this lead to Siakam’s big game.

Siakam scored easily on Niang. Embiid did had some trouble scorinh against Thad and the Raps defense. Yikes..

Sixers did a really bad job limiting second shot opportunities. The Orebs lead to 2-3 3pters this game if im not mistaken.

Sixers Offense:

Similar to game 3, Embiid struggled when attacking at the post. Embiid has more success attacking from the FT line area. Facing up.

But unlike game 3, Embiid never really switched it up. Yes, he did some face-up but he still had a lot of post/left baseline 1v1 possessions.

Embiid should know by now that the refs are less likely to blow their whistle if he tries to attack from the post. And he saw it on game 3 and he saw it again this game.

Thad was the X factor for the Raps this game. Thad made Embiid look like Mozgov when Warriors played smallball. Whenever Embiid scores or shoots, Raps would push hard
down the court with Embiid trailing on defense.

Sixers tries to punish the Raps playing Thad by C. Embiid bullying Thad in the post does not work. So they tried letting Thad switch to Harden where Harden has been effective and was again effective on ISO against Thad.

Harden for me played a good game. But in games like this where Embiid is as I would describe it “spiritually absent”, Harden should show his value where he can revert to a more Houston version of Harden. Im not saying he should revert back to his MVP form always, but what im hoping is that he should have a switch when we need him to be one.

The other night I saw the Suns without Booker beat the Pels. It was a tight game and CP3 just took over down the stretch. Its the same thing I want from James. I thought he showed some signs of being able to do that when he scored like 8 pts in the 4th quarter at some point trying to single handedly get the game close. But I selfishly want more..

Maxey again showed his a fool’s gold. He’s really average at best in getting separation and is just feeding off the gravity James is getting.

The brightspots in this game are both Reed and Tobias. I thought Reed played a good game. His defense against Siakam was good, Siakam just made those shots. He also knocked down a 3. I hope we can see some Tobias-Reed-Embiid 3-4-5 in the future.

Tobias didnt have a great shooting night. He knocked down 1 3pter via a stepback at the left wing. But he played aggressive and efficient on both ends.

Overall:

We lose this game simply because..

Siakam scoring against good defense vs Embiid struggling against bad defense

Then you add that Raps has both 10 FTA disparity. They shot 35 FTAs, 12 more than their season average.

I dont know if there was a team we faced that had more FTAs than us since we got Harden.

Then you add the fact that they have 5 less TOs and 5 more ORebs.

You lose on the 1v1 scoring contest..
you got less extra points from FTs…
And you got less opportunities with TOs and OREBS.

It was a steep mountain to climb.

Brightside? We just lose by 8pts. This should have been atleast 20 if we faced the Bucks.


Ah yes the classic "they won because we lost" explanation.

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How? I didnt just mentioned FTs. There were several factors why we lose that i mentioned such Embiid failing to score efficiently with volume against the mismatch (thad), getting out rebounded and TO.

Regarding FTs. I’d like to mention that Siakam average 5FTAs in the regular season and 4 FTAs in the playoffs. Sixers has done a great job of defending Siakam on single coverage and this is shown by his 4FTAs, -4ppg (22ppg vs 18ppg) average reg season vs playoffs and 40FG%.

Siakam tonight got 15FTAs, 3x more than his regular season average and almost 4x his average in the last 3 games.

Raps average 22 FTAs per game in the reg season, they got to the line 35 times. Usually teams go to the line above their mean only when the opposing team can’t stop the scorer due to mismatch.

If it’s because of Niang. Then yes, we lose the FT battle because of US.

If it’s not because of Niang, then we lose the FT battle because of the refs.




Free Throw Attempts Per Game

PHI 23.8 regular season, 27.3 this series (+3.5)
TOR 21.3 regular season, 22.0 this series (+0.7)
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Post#1737 » by Sidthekid87 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:29 am

Quattro wrote:Embiid to Nick Nurse after game 2 - stop complaining about the officials!

Embiid after todays game - the refs are corrupt.

Guy just keeps reinforcing that he’s a complete douche bag.


I don't think he's a douchebag, he's just far to emotional. Gets a lil to high after wins and a lil to low after L's. Gotta mature if he wants to actually be able to go on a deep playoff run. In 2019 the Kawhi raptors were the most even keel team throughout the entire playoffs. A playoff run has so many highs and lows, you gotta be able to work through it.
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Post#1738 » by Son Goku 25 » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:51 am

eyeatoma wrote:Philly **** the bed and let the Raptors hang around. Still think they close it out in Philly, but the series did get slightly more interesting. If people think that the refs were good today you were not watching the game objectively. The number of times Philly players got absolutely murdered really made it look like the game was rigged.

Here are Embiid's comments that he made after the game lol.

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Here is Scott Foster's record when James Harden and Chris Paul in a playoff game

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Like I'm not into conspiracy theories, but this is insane. The NBA needs to investigate this dude, because regardless of personal bias, that is an appalling record for two players who have consistently won at a high percentage in their careers.

The numbers speak for themselves.


If they investigate that man I'd love to also get some intel on the rig jobs against the Raptors. Hilarious how Embiid mentions refs accomplished what they came for coming from a guy who lives off the refs whistles, especially in this series :lol:
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Post#1739 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:25 pm

I expected Foster to condition this game but he didn’t. It was just that Pascal finally was aggressive and Niang/Tobias can’t guard him, Embiid was not aggressive and TO guarded him well, they didn’t even have to swarm. Refs didn’t give him cheap ones they were giving him earlier in the series but they did give cheap ones to Harden and Philly got a good whistle overall. 50-50 block/charges went their way, travels, even lane violations- OG got called for one on his own guy and then Niang waved in Pascal’s face on a FT attempt but nothing. Philly just sucked today and Embiid has been spoiled by horrible 1-way reffing to this point and he’s feeling that privilege. Their complaints are ridiculous.
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Post#1740 » by My Main Man » Sun Apr 24, 2022 12:34 pm

When did the hatred between Raps/6ers fans start? This thread is like one pro wrestling promo after another and I’m into it. Genuinely curious if it’s safe for Raps fans to go to a game in Philly. My brother is a Vikings fan and he went to a game in Philly once. He’s a chill, quiet guy and people were still throwing stuff at his head and threatening to kill him the entire time.

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