Luka AD trade thread Part II

[Dirk2Doncic]

I'm not ussually into conspiracy theories but no one can be this incompetent unadvertedly.
They ejther want to relocate or are trying to force Cuban to sell his remaining stake.

Ummm, it's human behavior.

Dumont/Nico are doing exactly what they want and are doing it well according to their views.

If you listen to the Dumont statement, he's running a corporation.

And the fans getting thrown out for being contrarian is a natural downward flow of that.

Of course, his Shaq statement demonstrates he doesn't know basketball (or sports in general)

[Dirk2Doncic]

Did Dirk send a message to the new Mavs owner?

Him attending the Lakers game to support Luka with his dad was kind of weird.

He's supporting his friend, exactly what he should be doing.

[BmanInBigD]

No sports fandom has ever endured what Mavs fans just went through. The owners have created a situation of total hopelessness around the team.

You must be either young, or you don't know sports history. Teams have picked up and moved to another state, leaving their fans with nothing. Now tell me which one is worse!

Yeah that post about no teams endured more is stupid- a better player and a home grown talent in LeBron left while he was universally recognized as the best in the world- Cavs fans were devastated- same city saw their football team leave mid season like F yall - same city been getting kicked in the nuts for decades lol -

Dallas not even a basketball city- the cowboys run that town.

I can tell how many of yall are Luka only fans and ain’t been to Dallas… Mavs fans are hurting now but football season right around the corner.:: and that city gonna rotate back to their true love.

Luka already integrated into LA… and is moving on after learning a valuable lesson… these teams are not loyal -

I feel bad for the Mavs now but honestly they gonna get a ring with AD if he gets healthy and while I think Luka would have got them one too… over the next year a healthy AD gave them a better chance than a healthy Luka… over the next decade tho- Luka gonna be the face of sports in America….

You post a lot of good stuff but this is really bad for you. The Mavs aren’t winning ANYthing in the next year or so, or even in the next 5-8 years with this core. Even without AD getting hurt, they have no Alpha dog. Damn, man, you know that. C’mon, you’re better than this. Mavs fans and Cowboys aren’t necessarily the same people.

[Dirk2Doncic]

No way they kicked this guy out for saying "Fire Nico" on the Jumbotron.... Absolutely no way. This is like the NBA's version of fascism . Mavs have become the most unlikable franchise in the league overnight. This new ownership group and GM are a joke. This is wild. If I'm that dude I'm trying to find a way to file a lawsuit on these clowns.

Read on Twitter

Yes, they have become the most unlikable franchise in the league.

I don't know why anyone would want to support them.

[Castle Black]

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[Dirk2Doncic]

2. How can the owners of this team green light this? I’m sorry if I was the owner of Dallas and my GM comes up to me and says all of this is going on. I’m firing him on the spot. The fact the ownership was giving thumbs up for this entire time. Good luck going forward with that ownership group.

Dallas fans only hope for the long-term health of the franchise is that:
1. this was a catasthrophically naive ownership who trusted a holdover GM from the previous regime; &
2. had a policy of total delegation to the GM;
3. GM is an insane egomaniac who did the trade on his own;
4. Ownership recognizes quickly Nico is a fool, fires him in the offseason and hires a new basketball person to run the team.

If they do that they are still screwed short-term but at least they have a shot of a decent team long-term.

If the owner drove this process or had any meaningful role in this trade the franchise is doomed. You can fix a bad GM. You can't fix a bad owner.

Dumont statement shows that he and Nico are in lockstep.

[Ballerhogger]

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Does really he have 0 IQ …… nobody likes you in Texas basketball Nico …. Do yourself favor hahah

[rickxdel]

KOC weighs in. And he hits the nail on the head. Sad watching the Mavs organization implode like this.

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I have a hard time believing this is incompetence. I'm starting to think it's on purpose, the owners of the Mavs want a reason to go to Vegas...

Bingo, the Adelson owners made a play to legalize casinos and gambling in Texas but got shot down

In retaliation they want to move the team to Vegas and don't care if they need to tank the team for now to justify the move

[Castle Black]

Watch on YouTube

[rickxdel]

https://fb.watch/xHZmpJj7_s/

good video that breaks down how this move is essentially to get more leverage for the Adelsons to either:

A. Pass the gambling legislature to open up a casino business in Dallas alongside the NBA team
or
B. Move the mavericks to Vegas where they can carry out this plan of having a team and gambling casino together and can point to how the team stinks and sales are declining as justification for the move

[rickxdel]

So the new owners built their empire and wealth from gambling. Their goal is to move the team to Vegas and have a gambling gig attached. In that respect they need the city to allow them to move the team however that would never have happened with Luka being the fans biggest draw, therefore he had to go. Silver got involved and needed a solution to the Lakers future, hence the trade was done secretly between the 3. On a side note LeBron also has interest in Vegas, he has said his long term desire is to own a team in Vegas. Hummm ..

bingo

[Ruma85]

https://fb.watch/xHZmpJj7_s/

good video that breaks down how this move is essentially to get more leverage for the Adelsons to either:

A. Pass the gambling legislature to open up a casino business in Dallas alongside the NBA team
or
B. Move the mavericks to Vegas where they can carry out this plan of having a team and gambling casino together and can point to how the team stinks and sales are declining as justification for the move

Let's say the billing passes for gambling casinos, couldn't people just boycott there businesses, so they lose profit.

[MassimoPayne]

I don't buy Mavs moving to Vegas thing. Mavs have history. League would not give them up. If they wanted to do that why didn't they pick Kings, Grizzlies ... or just waited till the league goes to 32 teams?

[Me Like Lakers]

https://fb.watch/xHZmpJj7_s/

good video that breaks down how this move is essentially to get more leverage for the Adelsons to either:

A. Pass the gambling legislature to open up a casino business in Dallas alongside the NBA team
or
B. Move the mavericks to Vegas where they can carry out this plan of having a team and gambling casino together and can point to how the team stinks and sales are declining as justification for the move

Let's say the billing passes for gambling casinos, couldn't people just boycott there businesses, so they lose profit.

Beliefs usually don't go as far when there are addictions or money involved for must people..

[Mavrelous]

Addlesons don't want to move the team to Vegas, they aren't in the business of slashing their assets worth in half, that's just fantasy, and even if they went scorched earth, the league will simply create an expansion team in Dallas, 100 business men will line up to do it, this is such an empty threat.
The Addlesons want to open mega arena/shopping/casino center in Dallas, they said so themselves, they paid lobbyists to do it, this is public record, but how exactly does alienating the entire city and even parts of the state against them helps? I just don't see how this trade helps, they want to force the team to suck and lose 9 figures in tickets revenue over the next few years?

Nico Harrison initiated this, he's been working against Doncic since he started his tenure, it's well documented, Luka himself said last year that he feels that the organization pushes away everyone he likes, he doesn't like Doncic and doesn't believe in him, the owner, who comes from a background where the brand name and the facilities make the product, underestimated how much talent is king in this business, not just any talent, but young, likable and exciting talent who ranks at the very top of the league, and underestimated how much franchise loyalty matters in Dallas compared to the rest of the league, he also looks like someone who was sold a bill of goods by the person he put in charge of the franchise.
What's done is done, the only conspiracy here is Nico Harrison working with his own close circle of people he worked with at Nike (Pelinka and Davis) to sell off the biggest sports asset to be sold in recent history.
We as Mavs fans appreciated the moves Nico did to create the roster that went to the finals, but we also know he destroyed the 22 WCF roster and had to tank in 23, and the key players that helped transform the team last year (PJ, Gafford and DJJ) weren't on his radar until his bad initial targets failed (Thybulle and Kuzma), he's just a bad GM who lucked into great role players, carried by special talent in Luka and Kyrie, to have success that made him think of himself much more than he really is.

[Ruma85]

https://fb.watch/xHZmpJj7_s/

good video that breaks down how this move is essentially to get more leverage for the Adelsons to either:

A. Pass the gambling legislature to open up a casino business in Dallas alongside the NBA team
or
B. Move the mavericks to Vegas where they can carry out this plan of having a team and gambling casino together and can point to how the team stinks and sales are declining as justification for the move

Let's say the billing passes for gambling casinos, couldn't people just boycott there businesses, so they lose profit.

Beliefs usually don't go as far when there are addictions or money involved for must people..

I gamble but nothing too crazy, if people want to drag themselves through the mud, that's on them no one else.

[Exp0sed]

I'm not ussually into conspiracy theories but no one can be this incompetent unadvertedly.
They ejther want to relocate or are trying to force Cuban to sell his remaining stake.

Ummm, it's human behavior.

Dumont/Nico are doing exactly what they want and are doing it well according to their views.

If you listen to the Dumont statement, he's running a corporation.

And the fans getting thrown out for being contrarian is a natural downward flow that.

Of course, his Shaq statement demonstrates he doesn't know basketball (or sports in general)

they're not trying to relocate. there's no way Adelson comes out with the statement she did if that's the case and it's been explained over and over, that the way it works is that the owners across the league need to approve a relocation and they get nothing from a relocating team, while an brand new expansion team - puts 300M dollars in their pockets. so there's no way they'd vote for a team relocating, making this conspiracy theory categorically false

Dumont married into the Adelson family, he obviously knows nothing about basketball and probably not about business either. they're just incompetent and just like many new owners of the past, trying to go against the grain and make their presence known

we just saw the same with guys like Ishbia who took over and just had to "make his mark" regardless of how stupid his moves were. every NBA fan in the world knew his moves were horrible. dude really traded for the most untradeable contract in the NBA (which was Beal's supermax with the only NTC in the league lol). what a shocker that a year later he's stuck because Beal won't waive his NTC and no1 would take him anyway

Prokhorov did the same when he took over the Nets and many other past new owners

[DirtyDez]

Mavs fans can’t even go thru the natural stages of grief because ownership/management keep opening their mouths. Defense wins championships, we want guys who are committed, 270 lbs, Kobe and Shaq were dedicated to their craft etc.,, Shut up already.

[jc23]

lebron will do for Luka what wade did for lebron. sometimes you need an peer with experience to show you how to become a champion.

[jc23]

Mavs fans can’t even go thru the natural stages of grief because ownership/management keep opening their mouths. Defense wins championships, we want guys who are committed, 270 lbs, Kobe and Shaq were dedicated to their craft etc.,, Shut up already.

mavs fans need to organize and pick a game where nobody attends. that would be incredibly embarrassing to ownership.