MrCheerios wrote:Despite whatever limitations you think Thompson had that year, he was a luxury that other MVP candidates usually do not have.
Hogwash. Is it more of a luxury than when LeBron won multiple MVPs playing with D-Wade and Bosh? Or Durant winning his MVP playing with Ibaka and Westbrook? Or Nash winning his playing with Stoudemire and Marion? You're gonna count it against Curry for having Klay freakin' Thompson on his team? Comical.
Imagine if Westbrook had a player that could score at that rate, shooting those percentages, and play top rate defense. The Thunder would be considerably better and Westbrook would undoubtedly have more assists.
That's not how it works. Klay Thompson scores at that rate w/ those percentages because he plays with Curry, who creates unprecedented amounts of space for his supporting cast and especially Thompson. He's not averaging these percentages playing anywhere else.
And why is your main focus on Klay? How about Harden having a defensive stud at center who averaged 16/11?
His rebounding rate and passing ability are afterthoughts when his frontcourt consists of Green and Bogut and he had Livingston and Iggy off the bench. The team was well constructed and did not require those skills from him.
Revisionist history strikes again. The Warriors' front court that year was a mess. Bogut missed 15 games and was on minutes restriction the entire year. David Lee missed 33 games. Festus Ezeli missed 33 games. Draymond Green was still a defensive specialist at that point that didn't have the all-around game that you see today.
Despite that, Curry leads the Warriors to a (then) franchise best 67 wins (11 more wins than Harden), more than doubled his net rating, had a better PER, better TS%, better TO and assist rates, better VORP, RPM and WS/48...yet
somehow you still think Harden should've taken the MVP home? Okay buddy.
The matter is clearly debatable, as Curry was not a unanimous MVP and Harden won the Players Association vote for MVP. Other are allowed to disagree with you. And some of the advanced stats you reference Curry winning are influenced by the quality of teammates and team scheme anyway (TS%, AST %, TO%, VORP).
The players' association award was/is a complete and utter joke and was used as an 'F U' against the media, nothing more. Anyone who actually dug deep into the stats knew that Curry was the clear MVP that year.
And I get it. You've been on repeat for 3 pages now. You think Harden should've won MVP because he had worse teammates than Curry. So, again using that same logic, Westbrook should be the MVP over Harden this year, right?
Rockets net rating with Harden off the court: +4.1
Thunder net rating wtih Westbrook off the court: -10.9
According to your logic WB is MVP, right?
And how is Harden having a "worse" team than Curry a sarcastic air quote-worty statement, while Westbrook's supporting cast being worse obvious to you? Who would OKC trade for Adams, Kanter, and Oladipo for on Houston's current roster? I would've traded Houston's whole 14-15 starting lineup for Golden State's!
Of course you would've...because that means you would've had the two-time MVP.
