Stephen Curry has been totally exposed

[clyde21]

Gotta love the willful ignorance of some posters. GSW playing better without Curry gotta be way up there with the dumbest takes i've seen

these Curry takes are legit flat earth level denial at this point

[Rodwilliams]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

[BoatsNZones]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

Like who? Peak Lebron? Debatable actually, and that's not exactly helping your case. The closest cast Harden had to being this bad with him off the floor was in 2016 when they were a -5.2 (hint: still not as bad), and they finished .500 (+1.6 with Harden on the floor. Falling short of the Warriors at +2.3 with Curry on the floor). They're 25-21 with Curry and a -8.0 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

[dhsilv2]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

They're 1-7 when he isn't playing. This team is REALLY bad without him.

[Rodwilliams]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

Like who? Peak Lebron? That's not exactly helping your case. They're 25-21 with him and a -7.5 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

Lebron, James Harden Rockets teams especially the 2017 one. Chris Paul throughout his whole career.

Harden had to average 30 ppg and dish out 8-14 assists for his team to win those Rocket years. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know their record without him but I’m sure it’s pretty bad. If he wasn’t dropping 30 then the Rockets weren’t winning the game. That’s how bad the team was.

[The_Hater]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

The Warriors were 15-50 last year without Curry. This season they’re right around .500 as a team and 4 games over .500 when Curry plays. So at what point does one conclude that they’re not considerably better with him in the lineup this season and he hasn’t raised a floor of a team that was previously 30th in a 30 team league? Biased much?

Let’s call this just another poor take from the keyboard of Mr Williams.

[BoatsNZones]

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

Like who? Peak Lebron? That's not exactly helping your case. They're 25-21 with him and a -7.5 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

Lebron, James Harden Rockets teams especially the 2017 one. Chris Paul throughout his whole career.

Harden had to average 30 ppg and dish out 8-14 assists for his team to win those Rocket years. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know their record without him but I’m sure it’s pretty bad. If he wasn’t dropping 30 then the Rockets weren’t winning the game. That’s how bad the team was.

I extrapolated on my post to include Harden. You're simply wrong and extremely wrong at that. Those Rockets were a +3.7 with him off the floor (+7 with him on. That's not a massive difference by any stretch). +3.7 without your star is a VERY good number (the Nets this year are a +4.3, for reference). It's 11.7 points better than these Warriors with Curry off the floor. In the prior year when his cast truly sucked without him (but still was not as bad without him as this one is with Curry, they went .500, which is worse than these Dubs with Curry). We'll be here to continue to educate you if need be, but at least pretend like you're soaking some of it in.

[clyde21]

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

Like who? Peak Lebron? That's not exactly helping your case. They're 25-21 with him and a -7.5 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

Lebron, James Harden Rockets teams especially the 2017 one. Chris Paul throughout his whole career.

Harden had to average 30 ppg and dish out 8-14 assists for his team to win those Rocket years. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know their record without him but I’m sure it’s pretty bad. If he wasn’t dropping 30 then the Rockets weren’t winning the game. That’s how bad the team was.

do you have a point you're tryna make or just saying random things just to fill the air

[Jadoogar]

If there's something to be taken from this thread it is this: the absurdity of the narratives created by haters to downplay Curry has no bounds.

Their critiques aren't just slight exaggerations or even wholesale newly created fiction, they're twisted opposites of the truth. In their versions black is white and up is down.

Steph needs other stars? He's not a floor raiser? No. He can carry teams with the best of them or even better than them. He's done it before and he's doing it again.

Steph's 2015 run was a fluke and weak because of injuries to his opponents? No. Steph faced the highest seeds possible on his path and defeated each member of the All-NBA First Team aside from himself on his way to a championship with a team that hadn't seen a finals before.

The 2016 finals was a demolition? No. The Cavaliers were fortunate to escape with a win by the skin of their teeth in the final minute of a game 7 after the Warriors played a starter down in each of the last 3 games that saw Warriors injuries and referee interventions.

In all of these grand anti-Curry narratives it is the opposite that is true.

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

They're 1-7 when he isn't playing. This team is REALLY bad without him.

including getting spanked by the raptors by 50+. and the raptors SUCK

[BoatsNZones]

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

They're 1-7 when he isn't playing. This team is REALLY bad without him.

including getting spanked by the raptors by 50+. and the raptors SUCK

To be fair I think we would have only lost by 38 if Draymond played that game

[a8bil]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But if you go through any player who produces 50+ points, they all consistent of double digit free throws. Manufactured in the sense I believe you are alluding to would be guys going to the line 15-20 times a night and hardly ever hitting 40/50 points. James Harden, Trae Young, for example.

Curry literately just dropped 38 the night before on 4 free throws. No other superstar in the league is less dependant on flopping/fishing for fouls.

my point is that unlike harden/lebron/westbrook/etc...whose games relies on contact, i find it odd when curry gets 16 free throw attempts in 1 game. it's not his playstyle and it leads me to believe there were some questionable calls in his favor.

sure, curry has had 40/50+ nights with low free throws attempts and probably holds some sort of record in that regard, but this season his biggest nights tend to be in games where he had higher than average throw attempts and i find it suspect.

Sorry...you must not watch his games. Trae young plays a very similar games, but gets twice the foul calls. Curry gets no respect...but he does get fouled consistently off ball and with the ball in his hands.

[The_Hater]

Like who? Peak Lebron? That's not exactly helping your case. They're 25-21 with him and a -7.5 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

Lebron, James Harden Rockets teams especially the 2017 one. Chris Paul throughout his whole career.

Harden had to average 30 ppg and dish out 8-14 assists for his team to win those Rocket years. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know their record without him but I’m sure it’s pretty bad. If he wasn’t dropping 30 then the Rockets weren’t winning the game. That’s how bad the team was.

do you have a point you're tryna make or just saying random things just to fill the air

Read his last 100 posts and you will have answered your own question.

[The_Hater]

I don’t know if I can look at this as a floor raising job because the Warriors are in 10th place. We seen other superstar players carry rosters just as worse to higher seeds. I do think he ended the narrative that he needs Klay to be efficient. He’s playing with non shooters and still able to hit a high volume of threes at a efficient rate.

They're 1-7 when he isn't playing. This team is REALLY bad without him.

including getting spanked by the raptors by 50+. and the raptors SUCK

The Raps beat a healthy Denver squad by 20 last month, the Nugs then won their next 9 games in a row.

Random regular season games are never the base for a good argument. Nor is anything where the sample size = 1.

[clyde21]

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[The411]

steph curry's style of play isn't conducive to getting free throws. I think we can all agree to that, right?

you have to ask yourself when going thru his game log why his biggest nights are when he has double digit free throw attempts. these games are manufactured.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say. But if you go through any player who produces 50+ points, they all consistent of double digit free throws. Manufactured in the sense I believe you are alluding to would be guys going to the line 15-20 times a night and hardly ever hitting 40/50 points. James Harden, Trae Young, for example.

Curry literately just dropped 38 the night before on 4 free throws. No other superstar in the league is less dependant on flopping/fishing for fouls.

my point is that unlike harden/lebron/westbrook/etc...whose games relies on contact, i find it odd when curry gets 16 free throw attempts in 1 game. it's not his playstyle and it leads me to believe there were some questionable calls in his favor.

sure, curry has had 40/50+ nights with low free throws attempts and probably holds some sort of record in that regard, but this season his biggest nights tend to be in games where he had higher than average throw attempts and i find it suspect.

Curry gets fouled constantly. Those night where he gets 10+ FTs means that he was getting fouls called. Many other nights he's fouled 10-15 times or more and gets 2-3 calls.

[Ambrose]

If anything this season has proved how valuable Curry is. The only thing he lacks as an elite floor raiser is durability.

[clyde21]

If anything this season has proved how valuable Curry is. The only thing he lacks as an elite floor raiser is durability.

that's fair, he obviously doesn't have the same durability as guys like LeBron and Harden, no question.

[MrBigShot]

Steph Curry got exposed so hard this season as an MVP caliber player regardless of who his supporting cast is

Not sure player who has their team on the 10th spot in their conference is MVP caliber player. That is definition of empty numbers historically on these boards.

They'd contend for worst record in the league without him.

[Rodwilliams]

Like who? Peak Lebron? That's not exactly helping your case. They're 25-21 with him and a -7.5 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

Lebron, James Harden Rockets teams especially the 2017 one. Chris Paul throughout his whole career.

Harden had to average 30 ppg and dish out 8-14 assists for his team to win those Rocket years. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know their record without him but I’m sure it’s pretty bad. If he wasn’t dropping 30 then the Rockets weren’t winning the game. That’s how bad the team was.

do you have a point you're tryna make or just saying random things just to fill the air

Harden lead those Rockets to a 3rd seed with a G league roster in 2017.

Chris Paul lead a OkC team to the 5th seed

Dame was hovering around the 4th-6th seed this season with a injured depleted team

We know the story with Lebron already. Curry has lead the Warriors to 10th place, possibly 8th seed if he didn’t get injured. He’s having a great season yes but not the floor raiser like the guys I mentioned above.

[Rodwilliams]

Like who? Peak Lebron? That's not exactly helping your case. They're 25-21 with him and a -7.5 with him off the floor (ie would compete with the Wolves and Rockets for worst record in the league). Most teams don't go 1-7 when one player is hurt for a short stint, but you are a Curry troll and already know this.

Lebron, James Harden Rockets teams especially the 2017 one. Chris Paul throughout his whole career.

Harden had to average 30 ppg and dish out 8-14 assists for his team to win those Rocket years. I’ll be honest with you, I don’t know their record without him but I’m sure it’s pretty bad. If he wasn’t dropping 30 then the Rockets weren’t winning the game. That’s how bad the team was.

I extrapolated on my post to include Harden. You're simply wrong and extremely wrong at that. Those Rockets were a +3.7 with him off the floor (+7 with him on. That's not a massive difference by any stretch). +3.7 without your star is a VERY good number (the Nets this year are a +4.3, for reference). It's 11.7 points better than these Warriors with Curry off the floor. In the prior year when his cast truly sucked without him (but still was not as bad without him as this one is with Curry, they went .500, which is worse than these Dubs with Curry). We'll be here to continue to educate you if need be, but at least pretend like you're soaking some of it in.

I think you misunderstood me. I was asking what is the Rockets record when Harden doesn’t play at all. It’s different playing a whole game without your star vs playing while your star is on the bench resting. What year Rockets are you referring too? If you talking about the year they had Chris Paul then I can totally understand why they have those numbers with Harden off the floor.