2022 NBA Finals | (3) GSW VS. (2) BOS (TIED 1-1)

[al bondiga]

I'm not a Boston fan, in fact i am a Miami fan... I hated the Celtics for a couple of weeks, smart is obviously an ass and not even a starter in any other team, also udoka just got lucky....but putting those things aside for a second...+ - STATS ON SUPERSTAR S LIKE TATUM NEVER MATTER

[AussieCeltic]

I'm not a Boston fan, in fact i am a Miami fan... I hated the Celtics for a couple of weeks, smart is obviously an ass and not even a starter in any other team, also udoka just got lucky....but putting those things aside for a second...+ - STATS ON SUPERSTAR S LIKE TATUM NEVER MATTER

Smart is not a starter for any other team? He would 100% be starting for your Miami Heat - that's an absolute given.

[AussieCeltic]

The Celtics are on their way to completely shattering the finals team 3 point %. They are currently at 45%. The record was set by the Indiana Pacers at 42%

I had absolutely no clue the Celtics had this many 3 point snipers. It seems like they have found the hidden power of the 3 once the playoffs started, with every single one of their players shooting a season high from 3 all at the same time.

I think they are 2nd in 3 point shootung since January so it isnt a new phenomenon. I believe it is because of their ball movement and multiple rim pressures to get the ball to swing from side to side. When the Celtics get great ball movement the ball has energy and more players get into a rhythm.

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

[Jfh20]

I'm not a Boston fan, in fact i am a Miami fan... I hated the Celtics for a couple of weeks, smart is obviously an ass and not even a starter in any other team, also udoka just got lucky....but putting those things aside for a second...+ - STATS ON SUPERSTAR S LIKE TATUM NEVER MATTER

Smart is not a starter for any other team? He would 100% be starting for your Miami Heat - that's an absolute given.

and? thats not saying much considering outside of butler, miami sucks ass.

[AussieCeltic]

I'm not a Boston fan, in fact i am a Miami fan... I hated the Celtics for a couple of weeks, smart is obviously an ass and not even a starter in any other team, also udoka just got lucky....but putting those things aside for a second...+ - STATS ON SUPERSTAR S LIKE TATUM NEVER MATTER

Smart is not a starter for any other team? He would 100% be starting for your Miami Heat - that's an absolute given.

and? thats not saying much considering outside of butler, miami sucks ass.

The guy said Smart is not a start on any other team.... just responding to his post bro.

[Impuniti]

The Celtics are on their way to completely shattering the finals team 3 point %. They are currently at 45%. The record was set by the Indiana Pacers at 42%

I had absolutely no clue the Celtics had this many 3 point snipers. It seems like they have found the hidden power of the 3 once the playoffs started, with every single one of their players shooting a season high from 3 all at the same time.

I think they are 2nd in 3 point shootung since January so it isnt a new phenomenon. I believe it is because of their ball movement and multiple rim pressures to get the ball to swing from side to side. When the Celtics get great ball movement the ball has energy and more players get into a rhythm.

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

That's a really dumb comparison. They're shooting 46% from 3 in the finals, counting it via buckets made is a ridiculous and disingenuous way of putting it out there. Skip Bayless level analytics.

[AussieCeltic]

I think they are 2nd in 3 point shootung since January so it isnt a new phenomenon. I believe it is because of their ball movement and multiple rim pressures to get the ball to swing from side to side. When the Celtics get great ball movement the ball has energy and more players get into a rhythm.

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

That's a really dumb comparison. They're shooting 46% from 3 in the finals, counting it via buckets made is a ridiculous and disingenuous way of putting it out there. Skip Bayless level analytics.

I'm a finance analyst, so I do know a thing or two about analytics. Using that comparison is not disingenuous at all.

[Triple M]

I think they are 2nd in 3 point shootung since January so it isnt a new phenomenon. I believe it is because of their ball movement and multiple rim pressures to get the ball to swing from side to side. When the Celtics get great ball movement the ball has energy and more players get into a rhythm.

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

That's a really dumb comparison. They're shooting 46% from 3 in the finals, counting it via buckets made is a ridiculous and disingenuous way of putting it out there. Skip Bayless level analytics.

I think it comes down to a good 3 point shooting team in Boston getting open looks. Again they were top 2-3 shooting team over the last 4 months and continued into the playoffs. So it isn't quite the fluke people keep mentioning. If the Warriors were the ones hitting 46% I don't think they would receive the same scrutiny, but the Celtics have arguably been the better shooting team for some time.

[soxfan2003]

The Celtics have shot 3's better than expected. I don't think there is a big question about that. I'd be surprised if the Celtics shoot over 40% from 3 the rest of the series with GP2 back.

But the Celtics have room for improvement in several areas. Don't turn the ball over as much which even if the Celtics don't score themselves, it may still make it harder for the Warriors to score in transition. A fairer whistle will also help there but some of Boston's turnovers were just dumb passes and the result of bad spacing. If Warriors are defending the pass well, either shoot it or pass the ball to someone else.

The Celtics need to be scoring better near the paint especially when Looney isn't in the game and I believe they will.

Klay will heat up and have at least one big game but the Celtics can still do a better job on Curry. When actually covering Curry, the Celtics have done a reasonably good job contesting but still too many open looks from 3 for the series from defensive lapses. The refs possibly not allowing Draymond Green to get away with as much in terms of illegal picks and holding onto players will make life more difficult for Curry since he has scored points on those plays. Not saying he can't still go for 40+ but the level of difficulty on him may increase at least a little the rest of the series.

Now that Green's behavior has become so widely known once again on the big stage, I tend to think the league will force him to tone it done and they will use common fouls just as much as technicals.

[Impuniti]

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

That's a really dumb comparison. They're shooting 46% from 3 in the finals, counting it via buckets made is a ridiculous and disingenuous way of putting it out there. Skip Bayless level analytics.

I'm a finance analyst, so I do know a thing or two about analytics. Using that comparison is not disingenuous at all.

Well if your analysis on finance is the same as it is for basketball, you're also a **** finance analyst.

Celtics have shot noticeably better from 3 so far in this series. You can play with words all you want, but that's reality.

[Impuniti]

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

That's a really dumb comparison. They're shooting 46% from 3 in the finals, counting it via buckets made is a ridiculous and disingenuous way of putting it out there. Skip Bayless level analytics.

I think it comes down to a good 3 point shooting team in Boston getting open looks. Again they were top 2-3 shooting team over the last 4 months and continued into the playoffs. So it isn't quite the fluke people keep mentioning. If the Warriors were the ones hitting 46% I don't think they would receive the same scrutiny, but the Celtics have arguably been the better shooting team for some time.

If the Warriors were shooting 46%, people would likely be saying that it will come down a bit by the end of the series. Or the Warriors or Celtics in this case will end up having the greatest 3P shooting series in NBA playoff history.

[AussieCeltic]

That's a really dumb comparison. They're shooting 46% from 3 in the finals, counting it via buckets made is a ridiculous and disingenuous way of putting it out there. Skip Bayless level analytics.

I think it comes down to a good 3 point shooting team in Boston getting open looks. Again they were top 2-3 shooting team over the last 4 months and continued into the playoffs. So it isn't quite the fluke people keep mentioning. If the Warriors were the ones hitting 46% I don't think they would receive the same scrutiny, but the Celtics have arguably been the better shooting team for some time.

If the Warriors were shooting 46%, people would likely be saying that it will come down a bit by the end of the series. Or the Warriors or Celtics in this case will end up having the greatest 3P shooting series in NBA playoff history.

I'm not saying it won't come back to normal, because it more than likely will. I was just highlighting the variance between their normal percentage and their current percentage is 6 made shots. They're also shooting the open 3 (6+ feet) at 40% making that variance even smaller.

Using raw data over percentages can be helpful as it shows that there sometimes isn't as big a gap as people may think - especially over a small sample set.

[tsherkin]

I think it is insulting to call any starter a role player.

Why?

It isn't a dirty word or a pejorative. Some players are there to fill a niche. They aren't shouldering heavy offensive load, they aren't defensive anchors. Bench spark, 3pt shooting, whatever it is, plenty of players who start games are picture-perfect definitions of roleplayers. It was never a term designed only for bench players.

[GunnerWRX]

The Celtics are on their way to completely shattering the finals team 3 point %. They are currently at 45%. The record was set by the Indiana Pacers at 42%

I had absolutely no clue the Celtics had this many 3 point snipers. It seems like they have found the hidden power of the 3 once the playoffs started, with every single one of their players shooting a season high from 3 all at the same time.

I think they are 2nd in 3 point shootung since January so it isnt a new phenomenon. I believe it is because of their ball movement and multiple rim pressures to get the ball to swing from side to side. When the Celtics get great ball movement the ball has energy and more players get into a rhythm.

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

So it’s just around 10 points per game than normal

No big difference.

[AussieCeltic]

I think they are 2nd in 3 point shootung since January so it isnt a new phenomenon. I believe it is because of their ball movement and multiple rim pressures to get the ball to swing from side to side. When the Celtics get great ball movement the ball has energy and more players get into a rhythm.

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

So it’s just around 10 points per game than normal

No big difference.

If you follow the Second Spectrum analytics with things like “expected points” which is based on players percentages dependant on where they shoot from and how they’re being defended, in game 1 the Celtics were only +8 above expected score while Warriors were +18.

[michaelm]

The Celtics have shot 3's better than expected. I don't think there is a big question about that. I'd be surprised if the Celtics shoot over 40% from 3 the rest of the series with GP2 back.

But the Celtics have room for improvement in several areas. Don't turn the ball over as much which even if the Celtics don't score themselves, it may still make it harder for the Warriors to score in transition. A fairer whistle will also help there but some of Boston's turnovers were just dumb passes and the result of bad spacing. If Warriors are defending the pass well, either shoot it or pass the ball to someone else.

The Celtics need to be scoring better near the paint especially when Looney isn't in the game and I believe they will.

Klay will heat up and have at least one big game but the Celtics can still do a better job on Curry. When actually covering Curry, the Celtics have done a reasonably good job contesting but still too many open looks from 3 for the series from defensive lapses. The refs possibly not allowing Draymond Green to get away with as much in terms of illegal picks and holding onto players will make life more difficult for Curry since he has scored points on those plays. Not saying he can't still go for 40+ but the level of difficulty on him may increase at least a little the rest of the series.

Now that Green's behavior has become so widely known once again on the big stage, I tend to think the league will force him to tone it done and they will use common fouls just as much as technicals.

Yes, I am sure the NBA will note this board’s opinion of Green and that will change the series.

[michaelm]

Since Jan 1, the 3P% is 37.5%.

Playoffs is 37.3%

They're 36/78 in the 2 games v the Warriors.

37.5% of 78 is 30. They've essentially made 6 more shots than their "normal" percentage suggests. Not a huge difference when you consider most of the shots are wide open.

So it’s just around 10 points per game than normal

No big difference.

If you follow the Second Spectrum analytics with things like “expected points” which is based on players percentages dependant on where they shoot from and how they’re being defended, in game 1 the Celtics were only +8 above expected score while Warriors were +18.

Which goes to show that GSW success hinges at least as much on their defence as it does on their offense, as has ever been so.

[durden_tyler]

Warriors should steal one in Boston obvioulsy if they are winning this series. I think Celtics play inspired in Game 3 but gets the close loss in Game 4.

[Crazy-Canuck]

Klay needs to go nuclear in one of these 2 games in Boston to steal one.

[GSWFan1994]

I, for once, appreciate there are games only every 3 days... anything less and I'd have a stroke by now.