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Re: Demarcus Cousins SUSPENDED 

Post#181 » by johnwall » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:39 am

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:Teams shouldn't be looking at the final shot like "we should go for the win, because won't win in the OT anyways", don't you think?


good teams should play for ot, bad teams like the kings always go for the win
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Re: Demarcus Cousins SUSPENDED 

Post#182 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:40 am

I would rather a team try and win with the best percentage chance, which would be a decent 3 pointer there. A team would have to consider itself pretty big overtime favorites for it not to be. A (low percentage) two is just playing to not lose, and results in losing more often.

Then again, Sac is best off tanking, so do the reverse of above.
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Post#183 » by DEEP3CL » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:45 am

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:
DEEP3CL wrote:Like I said from day one this fool is a problem child and a born loser who'll never WIN anything. I still don't see what's the big deal over this fool. Guys get all moist in the draws because he scores....boo hoo, what does he do to help his team besides screw'in up every month ?


:lol:

Actually, you've been a hater since day 1, so I won't take anything YOU say with a grain of salt. You're just mad that he called out your boy Bynum on twitter, and ever since then, you have some kind of rager for attacking the guy, no matter what he does.

Was also disappointed in Drew also tonight, letting that problem child Cousins get off was pitiful. Don't see what hell people see in this dude, he's a bitch made diva who's career will have issues with coaches and teammates......book it.


You're a guaranteed hater who will jump down Cousins' throat anytime anything goes wrong....book it. :lol:
Hater or not, at least my prediction was right on point now wasn't it ? Hell yeah it was......like I said book it, and it's going to keep happening over and over and over again. And I'm not mad as you say about some old childish second grade BS on some damn Twitter. Cousins is a screw up period. Ya boy is a bad seed period, the Maloof's would be fools to build around that jackass.
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Post#184 » by Karma_Engineer » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:47 am

First of all, Donte's decision to inbound wasn't his fault, Casspi didn't run his route correctly, the defense was anticipating the pass to DMC, and Tyreke was the only acceptable person open to pass to. The inbound play should have had DMC in the post for the final move and that would have at least drawn a double team and/or some sort of ball movement. When I see a poorly run play at the end, Donte did what anyone in his position would have done.

The past few games have seen the ball slow to a dead stop, especially with Tyreke running 1-4s and isolating. As soon as that shot clanked, DMC had been fighting for position and seemingly Collison was mugging him and holding his arms down so he couldn't jump for a tip-in. With the mounted frustration he yells at the inbounder and the shot taker and he explodes.

Was he right? Mostly no. He took out a personal frustration on his teammates, which should never happen. Part of this is his personality but its also a rising trend in late game options which always ends with a poor forced drive or an iso rhythm jumper, neither of which are team ball and places the game in the hands of Tyreke, who CAN make the shots, but necessarily shouldn't. I'm sure most defenses breathe a sigh of relief because its much easier to defend an isolation drive because defenses can collapse and the initial defender tends to be the best defender.

In short, DMCs attitude problems always stem from his wanting to win. Watching any player trying to be Kobe would frustrate them, especially when the TEAM has put itself into a position win. I am also optimistic to see DMC being more vocal because, let's face it, Tyreke isn't going to be vocal. And when your leader isn't vocal, it leaves everyone off the same page. That's why this altercation won't be the first or last. Is this any worse than Kobe calling out his teammates for sucking or openly calling for trades for better players? His intentions were pure but the way he handled it has let the hoards of haters coming in, sometimes not only his character but bringing race into it as well. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but as they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity.
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Post#185 » by Karma_Engineer » Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:56 am

DEEP3CL wrote: Hater or not, at least my prediction was right on point now wasn't it ? Hell yeah it was......like I said book it, and it's going to keep happening over and over and over again. And I'm not mad as you say about some old childish second grade BS on some damn Twitter. Cousins is a screw up period. Ya boy is a bad seed period, the Maloof's would be fools to build around that jackass.


Cousins posted 27/10/2 with 2 blocked shots and 3 steals on a 5 year pro with a championship ring while being surrounded by much more talent than his own team. AT Staples Center. AT age 20. WITH less than half a season under his belt. WITH a 12-38 team. BENO UDRIH started that game.

Lakers fans love to point out that those who are hated (Kobe) can use the negativity as a measurement of skills. Has there been a rookie that has been hated as much and as early as DMC? Makes you think.
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Post#186 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:27 am

DEEP3CL wrote: Hater or not, at least my prediction was right on point now wasn't it ? Hell yeah it was......like I said book it, and it's going to keep happening over and over and over again. And I'm not mad as you say about some old childish second grade BS on some damn Twitter. Cousins is a screw up period. Ya boy is a bad seed period, the Maloof's would be fools to build around that jackass.


The reason I called you out for being a hater is even after Cousins touched Bynum and Gasol for 27/10 in Staples, you still call him out for being nothing. You may think he's a headcase, but the man has talent and you won't even recognize that.
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Post#187 » by SadKingsFan » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:08 am

pass first wrote:
Reportedly - he's also grown tired of Tyreke's late game decisions and the coaches/teammates not speaking up about it

Stop making stuff up. God Bless[/quote]
Stop making stuff up. Thanks.[/quote]
Aren't you a Raptor fan? You wish you had a big man like Cousins. Poor you. :lol:
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Post#188 » by SadKingsFan » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:12 am

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It didn't long for him to divide that locker room and yes the excuses will only last so long.

LMAO i KNEW the warrior fans would be the first to run in here, along with the Twolve fans and Philly fans. Your teams EFFED up and didn't draft him, and now you're mad.


I can see why you're mad... i would be mad to. Poor You
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Post#189 » by BVPN » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:21 am

SadKingsFan wrote:
GswStorm3 wrote:
It didn't long for him to divide that locker room and yes the excuses will only last so long.

LMAO i KNEW the warrior fans would be the first to run in here, along with the Twolve fans and Philly fans. Your teams EFFED up and didn't draft him, and now you're mad.


I can see why you're mad... i would be mad to. Poor You


Warriors didn't even have a chance to draft Cousins, did they?
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Post#190 » by CodyB_ » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:25 am

I hope the Kings can sort their crap out. They got a really stacked young nucleus and a very bright future if you can get veteran leader to take leadership. Seems like there is some disputes over whose team it is. It shouldn't be a rookie or a sophomores team IMO. They need Larry Brown or a tough ass veteran.
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Post#191 » by bigbreakfast » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:25 am

Karma_Engineer wrote:In short, DMCs attitude problems always stem from his wanting to win. Watching any player trying to be Kobe would frustrate them, especially when the TEAM has put itself into a position win. I am also optimistic to see DMC being more vocal because, let's face it, Tyreke isn't going to be vocal. And when your leader isn't vocal, it leaves everyone off the same page. That's why this altercation won't be the first or last. Is this any worse than Kobe calling out his teammates for sucking or openly calling for trades for better players? His intentions were pure but the way he handled it has let the hoards of haters coming in, sometimes not only his character but bringing race into it as well. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but as they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity.


Cousins isn't the only NBA player that wants to win and isn't the only NBA player in a frustrating situation. He's shown himself to be one of the worst at handling those situations. Let's call a spade a spade, he's a young and talented player that's incredibly immature and has attitude problems. Having more run-ins with teammates and coaches in half a season than most players do in their careers is an alarming sign, and definitely does not win you any fans.
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Post#192 » by longfellow44 » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:27 am

^^Larry brown is a terrible coach, I wouldn't want him anywhere near the kings. If you want to bring in a tough coach go ahead and bring in JVG. But brown is extremely overrated.
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Post#193 » by SadKingsFan » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:30 am

BVPN wrote:
Warriors didn't even have a chance to draft Cousins, did they?

Which is why they are mad and frustrated with their lives.
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Post#194 » by Karma_Engineer » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:53 am

bigbreakfast wrote:
Karma_Engineer wrote:In short, DMCs attitude problems always stem from his wanting to win. Watching any player trying to be Kobe would frustrate them, especially when the TEAM has put itself into a position win. I am also optimistic to see DMC being more vocal because, let's face it, Tyreke isn't going to be vocal. And when your leader isn't vocal, it leaves everyone off the same page. That's why this altercation won't be the first or last. Is this any worse than Kobe calling out his teammates for sucking or openly calling for trades for better players? His intentions were pure but the way he handled it has let the hoards of haters coming in, sometimes not only his character but bringing race into it as well. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but as they say, there's no such thing as bad publicity.


Cousins isn't the only NBA player that wants to win and isn't the only NBA player in a frustrating situation. He's shown himself to be one of the worst at handling those situations. Let's call a spade a spade, he's a young and talented player that's incredibly immature and has attitude problems. Having more run-ins with teammates and coaches in half a season than most players do in their careers is an alarming sign, and definitely does not win you any fans.


The Kings at this point are in a rebuilding team with its best player, a very silent player, in his second year. Factor in a very young, inexperienced team, an arguably adequate coaching staff, and speculations of a moving franchise. I believe DMC is trying to become that leader. With that said, this team will lose a lot of games, for however long it takes and the mounting frustration has been unfairly placed on Demarcus' shoulders and is magnified by the media. The thing is, he wants that success but doesn't exactly have the NBA veteran savvy atittude that he needs to do it.

Let's just say his will to win is better than the alternative. Its hard to argue that the Kings won't be a better team without Cousins. The key is to reign in this frustration and anger and to channel it into a more comprehensive effort within the game. He will continue to be one of the most watched players for years to come. I really do wish we could wait at least a season to make a claim that has some substance without ignoring the obvious environmental (youth especially) factors in play.
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Post#195 » by hugolizard » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:55 am

It feels like just because he has the most talent on the Kings, their fans are pretty much ok with him doing whatever he wants to do. Imagine if some no name player on the Kings did this, would the Kings fans still glorify his act?
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Post#196 » by rpa » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:07 am

hugolizard wrote:It feels like just because he has the most talent on the Kings, their fans are pretty much ok with him doing whatever he wants to do. Imagine if some no name player on the Kings did this, would the Kings fans still glorify his act?


No one is OK w/ him taking a swing at a teammate. However:
1) He doesn't eat babies--people act like he does.
2) Kings fans agree with the REASONS he was frustrated.
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Post#197 » by Karma_Engineer » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:16 am

hugolizard wrote:It feels like just because he has the most talent on the Kings, their fans are pretty much ok with him doing whatever he wants to do. Imagine if some no name player on the Kings did this, would the Kings fans still glorify his act?


Why do you have such a problem with how Kings fans feel about Demarcus? Everyone from the front office to the fans have his support no matter what. Nobody expected that it was going to be easy, especially Kings fans.

And the second part to your question can be answered with some basic thinking: DMC is not a no-name player, he is a game-changer, a possible future 20/10 player and has shown great promise. What should Kings fans do, boo him and throw him under the bus? Well guess what, everyone else is under that bus, and it would be incredibly shortsighted to believe that DMC's fans are ignorant of his faults since the only real topics on this board consist of A) His potential and B) his "Thug" attitude.

The media definitely magnifies and blows his attitude problems out of proportion. Maybe the problem is that you don't watch enough games to make an informed decision. Where would the Kings be with glass man Udoh? Greg Monroe? Screw that, give me problem child DMC all day, every day.
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Post#198 » by mrblunt » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:25 am

Kings should get rid of that scrub Donte Greene at least.
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Post#199 » by dockingsched » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:26 am

Karma_Engineer wrote:
The media definitely magnifies and blows his attitude problems out of proportion. Maybe the problem is that you don't watch enough games to make an informed decision. Where would the Kings be with glass man Udoh? Greg Monroe? Screw that, give me problem child DMC all day, every day.



its not the all-star break yet and cousins has already been fined, tossed from practice, yanked for the starting lineup, and now taken out of the active roster. not sure how the media has blown his attitude issues out of proportion. seems like the blame would be with the player and the team, not the media.
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Post#200 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:39 am

mrblunt wrote:Kings should get rid of that scrub Donte Greene at least.


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