D-Will Wants Out Of Brooklyn, FO Also Wants Him Gone

[zero the hero]

prefering to be the wizards doesnt make the nets a disaster.

I'd rather be the Thunder r heat then the wizards. doesnt make the wizards a disaster

Talking strictly about 2nd round exit teams. And out of all the playoff teams this year, nets are the worst going forward.

are they? they can reset in a couple years, with 30+ million in cap room.

hwo do the pacers get better? over the cap and maybe losing stephenson, they could treadmill from here

raptors, are about to resign lowry, and lock themselves into a derozan/lowry/jval core that could also very easily treadmill

the bulls can get better, getting melo would be big for them

i dont see why the nets future is painted so bleak. since when is a playoff team not having draft picks such a huge deal? i can under stand like the knicks, a non playoff team with no picks... cause they are actually missing out on the lotto

so the nets treadmill for 2 years, make the playoffs, then make a run at some stars in 2016.

its not like we are some small market teams locked into 3rd tier players on 4 or 5 year deals

Pacers have the potential to be contenders and when bulls get rose back they should be contenders as well. Raptors and wizards young guys should improve in the near future and beyond.

No superstar would want to go to a team with a bleak and uncertain future. The nets have nothing to look forward too. KG and pierce are done. Deron is bad and lopez is injury prone. jj is it and he is overpaid. The nets aren't a treadmill team they are a DECLINING treadmill team with no picks and flexibility...

Take howard for example, he went to the rockets to join a core of harden, lin, parsons. What will the nets have in 2016? No promising youth and no established stars.

[Hello Brooklyn]

A 2nd round exit is a successful season if you have a young, in-experienced team. A 2nd round exit is a complete disaster if you have a team of veterans, zero flexibility, and mortgaged draft picks until 2018 playing in a historically weak conference.

How about when your team doesn't have its best player?

Imagine how different we would be, when we had Lopez in the post instead of Andray Blatche. Theres a lot of hope for next season. We will be a very different team.

Everyone knows that Brook Lopez has been injured. Doesn't change the fact that Nets were eliminated in the 2nd round with the expectations placed upon them in the beginning of the season.

Also, what kind of changes will be made to make the team "a very different team" next year may I ask?

LOL what a contradiction you just made. The expectations were made, when we had Lopez. Without Lopez, this team is obviously not going to meet those expectations.

We have no post scoring at all. That wasn't gonna get it done vs Miami.

The very different team, will be us adding our best player. Its a huge difference.

[spacemonkey]

I actually think a second round exit was a pretty damn good showing for this squad. Did anybody really buy into the hype after watching Boston and Nets in '13?

[Rafael122]

Haven't had time to read the whole thing, but Williams to Houston for Lin and Asik makes a ton of sense. Maybe Brooklyn has to send picks back in return, or swap picks to sweeten the deal but I like it for both sides:

Brooklyn gets out of Deron's contract. They don't keep Pierce, but they have two huge expiring contracts in Garnett and Thornton that can be used as trade chips at the deadline. And it gets them significantly under the luxury tax.

Houston, even with Deron's contract, they are still under the luxury tax but they would have 3 guys at the top making $14 million or more.

[Biased_Fan6425]

Deron Williams + other pieces for J.Lin and Asik.

You heard it first...

[Hello Brooklyn]

Haven't had time to read the whole thing, but Williams to Houston for Lin and Asik makes a ton of sense. Maybe Brooklyn has to send picks back in return, or swap picks to sweeten the deal but I like it for both sides:

Brooklyn gets out of Deron's contract. They don't keep Pierce, but they have two huge expiring contracts in Garnett and Thornton that can be used as trade chips at the deadline. And it gets them significantly under the luxury tax.

Houston, even with Deron's contract, they are still under the luxury tax but they would have 3 guys at the top making $14 million or more.

I would do it. Williams isn't much better of a player than Lin anyway. And Houston would do it out of desperation, after getting bounced in the first round.

Asik would be exactly the type of player the Nets would need, with interior defense and rebounding. And Lin would be a pass first point guard that could hit some shots when we needed them.

Lin
Johnson
Pierce
Asik
Lopez

[SF_Warriors]

They overpayed him to begin with. Nets fans didn't care because of the seemingly bottomless pockets of their owner, but what they didn't realize was that in the event they want/need to move deron, they just wouldn't be able to until MAYBE he was an expiring.

Now, deron is a constant injury risk and seems to be starting to develop a bad rep with upper management (king) and coaching (sloan)

He makes as much as KD, LBJ, and even CP for petes sake. No one's trading for him, especially not NY after they went through the whole amare situation.

I don't think morey's the type of GM that would destroy his cap by adding deron to the squad, especially when parsons is due for an extension soon.

[DarkXaero]

It'll be so funny if he plays well after he is gone from Brooklyn.

Wouldn't surprise me honestly.

[2thehoopand1]

Trade him to the Red Claws for a jock strap the nets would get more use out of it then Williams


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[Mamba Venom]

Phil Jackson was always high on 'barrel chested' D-Wil. He said 'this is a compliment, there has never been another player like him in NBA history.' D-Wil for Amare perhaps.

[Froob]

I didn't read all these pages but did anyone confirm whether this source is accurate? I've never in my life heard of Hoop Critic. If it is true, some of you fans will be in for a rude awakening if you think your teams' GMs wouldn't trade for Dwill. I always feel like GM's always have different views of players than their fans.

Only GM in the league who would trade for him is Billy King. Better hope he gets fired and hired elsewhere.

[Prokorov]

A 2nd round exit is a successful season if you have a young, in-experienced team. A 2nd round exit is a complete disaster if you have a team of veterans, zero flexibility, and mortgaged draft picks until 2018 playing in a historically weak conference.

How about when your team doesn't have its best player?

Imagine how different we would be, when we had Lopez in the post instead of Andray Blatche. Theres a lot of hope for next season. We will be a very different team.

only we were a much worse team with brook lopez. and lopez will likely be dealt anyway cause he doesnt fit in with what kidd wants to do

if lopez didnt get hurt, we would have missed the playoffs

[Prokorov]

A 2nd round exit is a successful season if you have a young, in-experienced team. A 2nd round exit is a complete disaster if you have a team of veterans, zero flexibility, and mortgaged draft picks until 2018 playing in a historically weak conference.

How about when your team doesn't have its best player?

Imagine how different we would be, when we had Lopez in the post instead of Andray Blatche. Theres a lot of hope for next season. We will be a very different team.

Everyone knows that Brook Lopez has been injured. Doesn't change the fact that Nets were eliminated in the 2nd round with the expectations placed upon them in the beginning of the season.

Also, what kind of changes will be made to make the team "a very different team" next year may I ask?

none, and dont mind him, he is the biggest homer on our board. he had us beating miami and going to the finals and thinks lopez is some elite player

[Prokorov]

Take howard for example, he went to the rockets to join a core of harden, lin, parsons. What will the nets have in 2016? No promising youth and no established stars.

enough cap room to sign 2 max players. and a large market. thats all you need in the league today. the ability to pair stars in a major market.

[Prokorov]

LOL what a contradiction you just made. The expectations were made, when we had Lopez. Without Lopez, this team is obviously not going to meet those expectations.

We have no post scoring at all. That wasn't gonna get it done vs Miami.

The very different team, will be us adding our best player. Its a huge difference.

lopez has sucked in his career vs miami cause he cant handle a hard quick double team. and he turned into a jump shooter against them because of it. lopez wouldnt have helped us vs the heat, he would have hurt us.

we were 10-21 with him, getting him back doesnt help us. he doesnt fit on this team. luckily kidd realizes that.

you dont win with slow ball stopping centers who dont defender or rebound and cant stay on the court. plus he is one of the softest players in the league

[Prokorov]

Haven't had time to read the whole thing, but Williams to Houston for Lin and Asik makes a ton of sense. Maybe Brooklyn has to send picks back in return, or swap picks to sweeten the deal but I like it for both sides:

Brooklyn gets out of Deron's contract. They don't keep Pierce, but they have two huge expiring contracts in Garnett and Thornton that can be used as trade chips at the deadline. And it gets them significantly under the luxury tax.

Houston, even with Deron's contract, they are still under the luxury tax but they would have 3 guys at the top making $14 million or more.

I would do it. Williams isn't much better of a player than Lin anyway. And Houston would do it out of desperation, after getting bounced in the first round.

Asik would be exactly the type of player the Nets would need, with interior defense and rebounding. And Lin would be a pass first point guard that could hit some shots when we needed them.

Lin
Johnson
Pierce
Asik
Lopez

they already turned this deal down earlier this year, and its a horrible trade for them.

they get the worst player in the deal on the worst contract

[Mirjalovic]

you dont win with slow ball stopping centers who dont defender or rebound and cant stay on the court. plus he is one of the softest players in the league

ball stopping center

its not about Nets or will they win with or without Brook Lopez, but why the hell this current trend calling legit offensive centers as ball stopping centers

[Prokorov]

its not about Nets or will they win with or without Brook Lopez, but why the hell this current trend calling legit offensive centers as ball stopping centers

Because he is a ball stopper. He gets the ball early offense and takes 8 or 9 seconds to either get into a shot or to pass the ball. he isnt a chucker, but he certainly stops ball movement

[HotRocks34]

Deron Williams + other pieces for J.Lin and Asik.

You heard it first...

Would not surprise me, to be honest. I'm not saying I want him in Houston, but it would not surprise me. I don't think anything happens until/unless his ankle surgeries are successfully done, though. Even if they're minor ones.

[Adam1221]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... sted-trade


This has been debunked already and is just a silly rumor.
As a Nets fan sure Im frustrated with DWill, but again if he (and thats a big if) can get his ankles fixed Im sure he can be in the top 5 PG conversation again.
I mean just look at Steph Curry he had ankle issues for 3 seasons and is now playing like one of the best players in the league.