What are the Sixers doing?

[MiltownHawkeye]

I don't think people are as up in arms about MCW gettinf traded as they are about KJ getting traded. Sometimes these deals are more noteworthy because of what they say about the org, rather than the outcome in a vacuum.

Trading KJ for pretty much nothing is an embarrassment logistically even if he turns out to be a scrub.

[76ciology]

I think the worst news for the Sixers is that Dragic was traded to the Heat. That should kill the hope of having three lotto picks this year for the Sixers.

[Sixersftw]

Trading KJ for pretty much nothing is an embarrassment logistically even if he turns out to be a scrub.

The Sixers got something rather than receiving nothing when he gets over payed this summer. Not that embarrassing.

[MiltownHawkeye]

Trading KJ for pretty much nothing is an embarrassment logistically even if he turns out to be a scrub.

The Sixers got something rather than receiving nothing when he gets over payed this summer. Not that embarrassing.

Oh yeah, I forgot that all 2nd round picks are unrestricted free agents after their rookie seasons.

[Sixersftw]

Trading KJ for pretty much nothing is an embarrassment logistically even if he turns out to be a scrub.

The Sixers got something rather than receiving nothing when he gets over payed this summer. Not that embarrassing.

Oh yeah, I forgot that all 2nd round picks are unrestricted free agents after their rookie seasons.

Oh yeah, I forgot that an NBA GM couldn't reasonably predict that someone is likely going to sign him to an offer sheet he doesn't want to match.

[GallagherArt]

Trading KJ for pretty much nothing is an embarrassment logistically even if he turns out to be a scrub.

The Sixers got something rather than receiving nothing when he gets over payed this summer. Not that embarrassing.

Oh yeah, I forgot that all 2nd round picks are unrestricted free agents after their rookie seasons.

He was highly touted because of his flash of the pan offensive performance to begin the season, since the new year though he's shooting 36.9%, 24% from deep and he can't dribble worth a damn. I would have loved to keep him personally because of his defensive savvy and more selfishly for his highlight plays, but similarly to most Sixers' trades, the outrage is exaggerated. He accepted the base salary that second rounders are entitled to and it's paying off for him, that's good for KJ, however he's not coveted nearly as much as an asset the moment he signs a contract which I'm assuming will be worth similarly to top pick's without the potential and polish that top picks usually have.

Possesses an interesting skill set, entertaining player to watch, I would have loved to keep him on a standard rookie contract, too bad he gambled on himself as a Sixers' fan (congrats to KJ for all the money he's going to earn).

[Saints14]

They're by far the most interesting team in the league, I'm absolutely fascinated by every move Hinkie makes. Bottom line is that he's a businessman at heart; he saw positive value for MCW and took it.

I guess the argument against them before was that they only had one potential franchise player moving forward in Embiid, while MCW and Noel were solid starters at best. If they nab Russell or Mudiay in the draft to pair with Embiid that's another potential franchise player, giving them 2 (2/3 of the way to a legit, young big 3). Then they have the Lakers pick which will almost certainly be a lottery pick, their 2016 first and a boatload of other assets to trade for a third star player. That's not including Saric and Noel who both have all star potential, or Jerami Grant who I presume they "picked" over McDaniels.

Of course that's all dependent on how these guys turn out, but Embiid seems like a sure thing barring injuries and Hinkie has done a good job in his first two drafts which leads me to trust him with a top 3 pick. Either way the Sixers are the most entertaining team in the league to follow for me.

[Rasheeed!!!]

Is this the first time a roy has been traded in his 2nd yr?

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I guess Elton Brand kind of qualifies….though he did complete his 2nd year with the Bulls before being traded to the Clipps. He was a 20 & 10 player in his 1st & 2nd season…was surprised when they dealt him.

[James72]

okay so i will admit, this may be off base due to me not watching a ton of 76er games... BUT

MCW and KJ daniels are your two best players, they are young and don't have a supporting cast around them. They are on rookie deals (granted KJ is about to expire) and you trade them for pretty much a 1st and 2nd.

Regardless if you're trying to stockpile picks and rebuild, you don't always hit on picks! People are saying MCW will be a 6th man... well heck, you need 6th men if you're going to be good. Also, don't PGs usually need players around them to shine? Which MCW didn't have.

MCW may not be a star, may never be, but he will be a solid player and is 23... and you have the worse talent on your roster in the league...and trade KJ on top of it. I just don't get it.

[Mich3006]

All their deals are senseless if you go for long-term injured rookies all the time... How long should their rebuilding process take? 25 years?

[Unbreakable99]

All their deals are senseless if you go for long-term injured rookies all the time... How long should their rebuilding process take? 25 years?

Actually all of their deals make sense.

[76ciology]

All their deals are senseless if you go for long-term injured rookies all the time... How long should their rebuilding process take? 25 years?

Long term injured rookies? Well, Noel has shown pretty durable.

How long will the rebuilding process take? Well, if the three lotto picks materialized (Sixers, heat and Lakers), probably rebuilding year ends at year 2? FWIW, this is just the 2nd year of the rebuilding process and it's not yet done.

[Mich3006]

All their deals are senseless if you go for long-term injured rookies all the time... How long should their rebuilding process take? 25 years?

Long term injured rookies? Well, Noel has shown pretty durable.

How long will the rebuilding process take? Well, if the three lotto picks materialized (Sixers, heat and Lakers), probably rebuilding year ends at year 2? FWIW, this is just the 2nd year of the rebuilding process and it's not yet done.

Noel won´t be that impact player and everybody has to wait for Embiid´s game (hopefully he´s not Greg Oden 2.0).

With all their Rooks and 1st´s there´s a very small chance to win something in the next years, veterans on Allstar level are important too!

[76ciology]

All their deals are senseless if you go for long-term injured rookies all the time... How long should their rebuilding process take? 25 years?

Long term injured rookies? Well, Noel has shown pretty durable.

How long will the rebuilding process take? Well, if the three lotto picks materialized (Sixers, heat and Lakers), probably rebuilding year ends at year 2? FWIW, this is just the 2nd year of the rebuilding process and it's not yet done.

Noel won´t be that impact player and everybody has to wait for Embiid´s game (hopefully he´s not Greg Oden 2.0).

With all their Rooks and 1st´s there´s a very small chance to win something in the next years, veterans on Allstar level are important too!

It's a small problem to have compared to having a small market team with little cap flexibility and no assets to acquire a star. So far, there's no losing culture issue with the Sixers and acquiring talent is and will never be the problem. Basically, the team have 4-5 shots in acquiring a star/superstar (biid, 2015 Sixers-Heat-Lakers picks, 2016 pick and max FA).

[Mik317]

I don't agree with everything that has happened today but if by this tie next year we are still waiting for next year when we will draft our star for sure....I suspect Hinkie is gone. Embiid has to be good and healthy next year...not an all star, not leadin us to the playoffs but someone we can legit point to with confidence that he is good and is the centerpiece. Either him or whoever we take with our pick(s) this year.

Basically some progress has to be made. Even if it is of the winning 25-28 games variety, the team has to look like it is moving forward as we should get at the very least two first rounders to be apart of our core.

Anything less is unacceptable.

[JazzMatt13]

Basically what it says on the tin.

I can understand trading away older guys like Turner and Hawes, or other veterans. But now they're trading away young pieces like MCW for picks? I don't get it. And giving up McDaniels is just bizarre. He's the exact kind of steal you hope for with a 2nd round pick.

So anyway, can anyone shed some light on this? Sixers fans?

Oh, and I'm not trying to flame here. I'm just legitimately curious as to what's going on in Philly.

I call losing for winning, "Sixer Ball", like the term "Money Ball". And only today has it made any sense. I completely understand selling Carter-Williams for a new draft pick, dude was way over-rated and they knew it. Now they can draft a more solid Point Guard.

You would ask, why the hell they selling off KJ McDaniels. Well I figured out the more cooler part of Sixer Ball. They took basically worthless assets and got a pick out of it plus a bench player. Prior to today, I hated Sixers, mostly started cause Burke was looked on like crap and everyone loved Carter-Williams, but if you can get a Lottery pick for Carter-Williams, then your FO knows how to deal.

I always praise Jazz FO, but they are crap in comparison. Sixers got LAL's 1st round pick and Thunders 1st round pick, and a 2nd round pick, along with McGee and Canaan. And all they gave up was Carter-Williams and KJ McDaniels. This is type of thing you would expect from Jazz, but Philly just pulled off a heist.

[Mik317]

Basically what it says on the tin.

I can understand trading away older guys like Turner and Hawes, or other veterans. But now they're trading away young pieces like MCW for picks? I don't get it. And giving up McDaniels is just bizarre. He's the exact kind of steal you hope for with a 2nd round pick.

So anyway, can anyone shed some light on this? Sixers fans?

Oh, and I'm not trying to flame here. I'm just legitimately curious as to what's going on in Philly.

I call losing for winning, "Sixer Ball", like the term "Money Ball". And only today has it made any sense. I completely understand selling Carter-Williams for a new draft pick, dude was way over-rated and they knew it. Now they can draft a more solid Point Guard.

You would ask, why the hell they selling off KJ McDaniels. Well I figured out the more cooler part of Sixer Ball. They took basically worthless assets and got a pick out of it plus a bench player. Prior to today, I hated Sixers, mostly started cause Burke was looked on like crap and everyone loved Carter-Williams, but if you can get a Lottery pick for Carter-Williams, then your FO knows how to deal.

I always praise Jazz FO, but they are crap in comparison. Sixers got LAL's 1st round pick and Thunders 1st round pick, and a 2nd round pick, along with McGee and Canaan. And all they gave up was Carter-Williams and KJ McDaniels. This is type of thing you would expect from Jazz, but Philly just pulled off a heist.

this is amazing. Your hatred for MCW is something else...

but you know what...you are consistant as hell with it.

I respect that.

[BullyKing]

Trading KJ for pretty much nothing is an embarrassment logistically even if he turns out to be a scrub.

The Sixers got something rather than receiving nothing when he gets over payed this summer. Not that embarrassing.

Oh yeah, I forgot that all 2nd round picks are unrestricted free agents after their rookie seasons.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I don't think logistically means what you think it means.

[Fresh360Waves]

Someone compile a list of all the picks the Sixers have moving forward. I think that will answer the question.

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[JazzMatt13]

If Sixers draft 2 solid players in this draft, they could be a freaking power house. I hate to be a dick, but I like Philly now Carter-Williams is gone, and now I don't like Bucks as much.

Sixers have incredible trading power, the likes we haven't seen before.

They already have:
Noel
Embiid
(AK47)

They are likely to draft top 3 again, along with a solid teen pick. This draft is loaded with quality guards, and bigs, they are going to draft well this year. I wouldn't be shocked to see them sell off a ton of their picks for better picks, or even sell off Noel or Embiid for more picks.