Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[jason bourne]

LeBron made a phonecall to Magic and now LA is tossing everything and the kitchen sink at SA

My source says LeBron didn't call, but Woj tweeted that he doesn't want to be the first to sign with Lakers. This puts pressure on the Lakers to deal for Kawhi because Paul George may not leave OKC and there aren't signs from his reps that hes willing to sign with the Lakers. It's been very quiet from the PG-13 camp since he blurted out what he wants to do to TMZ. The Spurs are cagey, but Woj is cagier.

[nzahir]

Whats crazy is PG controls everything

If PG stays in OKC then LA may be screwed

Lebron won't go to LA with nobody. He would go with PG I bet(even though I don't think they can beat the GSW)

So if PG does not go, then Spurs can tell LA to **** off or pay a ransom (Ingram, Kuzma, Deng, 2 1sts).

Deng contract is worth like 2 1sts. So Ingram and Kuzma for Kawhi. Lakers can throw in zubac and or 2nds if they want.

[LakersSoul]

IMO the pressure is on the Lakers now.

If they don't want to trade for Kawaii how does Kawaii react to that? He is already sensitive over this Spurs issue it wouldn't surprise me if he took offence to Lakers wanting to wait a year also.

Or since the Spurs dont want to trade Kawhi and Kawhi doesnt trust the Spurs, he will be even more pissed at them. Now Spurs have openly looked for offers, they have the pressure to trade or start the season with a mess on their hands.

Lakers can wait until 2019 if thats what needs to be done.

[jfs1000d]

This confirms what I expected. The Celtics can put together the best package for Kawhi, but Ainge is cold-blooded when it comes to negotiating, and he is under 0 pressure to get a deal done.

The Sixers package isn’t nearly as enticing as everybody believes.

The Lakers can legitimately offer the best, realistic package. The most I’d offer Ingram and Kuzma, but they’d HAVE to take Deng. No extra picks.

That’s fair for everyone.

I think Celtics holding out Jaylen Brown, philly can’t get competitive offer, and Lakers have players that spurs don’t want.

This might be a case where they try and pry Jaylen Brown, Sac pick and more for Leonard.

If spurs don’t want ball, not sure how Ingram and Kuzma measures up to what Boston can do.




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[hookshot199]

IMO the pressure is on the Lakers now.

If they don't want to trade for Kawaii how does Kawaii react to that? He is already sensitive over this Spurs issue it wouldn't surprise me if he took offence to Lakers wanting to wait a year also.

Or since the Spurs dont want to trade Kawhi and Kawhi doesnt trust the Spurs, he will be even more pissed at them. Now Spurs have openly looked for offers, they have the pressure to trade or start the season with a mess on their hands.

Lakers can wait until 2019 if thats what needs to be done.

And LeBron's a year older.

[hookshot199]

Philly sports radio is saying that the Sixers have made some atrocious overpay offer of Saric, Fultz, Zhaire Smith, and Miami 2021 unprotected. Hopefully that is not correct.

Hopefully.

[Pythagoras]

This confirms what I expected. The Celtics can put together the best package for Kawhi, but Ainge is cold-blooded when it comes to negotiating, and he is under 0 pressure to get a deal done.

The Sixers package isn’t nearly as enticing as everybody believes.

The Lakers can legitimately offer the best, realistic package. The most I’d offer Ingram and Kuzma, but they’d HAVE to take Deng. No extra picks.

That’s fair for everyone.

I think Celtics holding out Jaylen Brown, philly can’t get competitive offer, and Lakers have players that spurs don’t want.

This might be a case where they try and pry Jaylen Brown, Sac pick and more for Leonard.

If spurs don’t want ball, not sure how Ingram and Kuzma measures up to what Boston can do.




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I very much doubt the Lakers don’t have players the Spurs want, and I very much doubt the Celtics are willing to offer up what the Spurs want.

[Black Mage]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250383/Spurs-Open-To-Trading-Kawhi-Leonard-To-Lakers

Spurs finally came to their senses.

They call them godfather offers for a reason. But if LA tries to low-ball them there won't be a deal. Sixers will jump in and make a move.

Lakers have to realize, if Sixers get Kawhi before they ink Lebron they could lose him too.

[Pythagoras]

So we have

1) Ingram, Kuzma, LAL unrestricted 20XX, (maybe Deng)

vs

2) Saric, Covington, Smith, MIA unrestricted 2021 pick

I'm not sure what looks better from the Spurs perspective. I think the upside on the Lakers assets might be better for where the Spurs will be in a post-Leonard world. I'm also not sure 76ers would be wise to offer so much for a 1 year rental.

I’m fairly confident Saric and Covington don’t have as much value as some fans think. That’s a solid package from the Sixers for a mid tier playoff team’s mid tier AS if they were looking to shake things up (McCollum or Beal). That package is garbage for a rebuilding team, which is we’re the Spurs would find themselves if Kawhi left.

I assume you know - of course - that not only does Saric’s stats (both counting and advanced) basically blow Ingram out of the water, his numbers across the board went UP in the playoffs...right? If Saric doesn’t have value around the league, then why did Ian Begley report that multiple teams inquired about Saric on draft night when the Sixers wanted to move up?

https://hoopshype.com/storyline/dario-saric-trade/

Don’t you hate it when FACTS get in the way of a good narrative?

Also, both Saric and Cov come to the Spurs haveing played in a Spursian system under Brett Brown - they will plug right in.

And - in terms of a “rebuliding team” the Spurs get a guy they liked in this draft in Smith and the MIA 2021 pick. I really don’t think the two deals are even close.

Ok, so the most valuable asset either team can send is Randle, cause you know... Facts

[SK21209]

I'm at the point where I'd take an Ingram/Kuzma deal, I'm tired of Kawhi's bull and a Murray/Walker/Ingram/Kuzma team would be fun. **** taking Deng though.

[badass316]

I'm at the point where I'd take an Ingram/Kuzma deal, I'm tired of Kawhi's bull and a Murray/Walker/Ingram/Kuzma team would be fun. **** taking Deng though.

I believe the Spurs would have to take Deng for the salaries to somewhat match.

[pipfan]

I think Deng/Ingram/Kuzma and a future pick is a good haul for SA.

Then SA trades LMA as well, and starts over

[LakersSoul]

I'm at the point where I'd take an Ingram/Kuzma deal, I'm tired of Kawhi's bull and a Murray/Walker/Ingram/Kuzma team would be fun. **** taking Deng though.

I believe the Spurs would have to take Deng for the salaries to somewhat match.

Lakers are under the cap so the salary doesnt have to match which is another benefit of trading with the Lakers instead of Cavs or Houston or whomever.

[LakersSoul]

I think the Lakers are making sure that even if Kawhi and LeBron comes, they have the salary cap flexibility to surround them with good vets and enough youth for the future, just like GSW did when they built their team.

[LAKESHOW]

Ploy by spurs. Kawai said he's not extending past 1 year. No team is offering big for a rental. So theyre trying to squeeze more. Weve seen this before

[RaptorsLife]

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[jstross]

I think Deng/Ingram/Kuzma and a future pick is a good haul for SA.

Then SA trades LMA as well, and starts over

Spurs are NOT taking the Deng contract. They're clear on that as they don't need to.

[badass316]

I'm at the point where I'd take an Ingram/Kuzma deal, I'm tired of Kawhi's bull and a Murray/Walker/Ingram/Kuzma team would be fun. **** taking Deng though.

I believe the Spurs would have to take Deng for the salaries to somewhat match.

Lakers are under the cap so the salary doesnt have to match which is another benefit of trading with the Lakers instead of Cavs or Houston or whomever.

I'm sure they want the salaries to match, that is of course they've completely given up on getting both LeBron AND George. If they're satisfied with just LeBron then yes, they don't need the salaries to match.

[jstross]

I believe the Spurs would have to take Deng for the salaries to somewhat match.

Lakers are under the cap so the salary doesnt have to match which is another benefit of trading with the Lakers instead of Cavs or Houston or whomever.

I'm sure they want the salaries to match, that is of course they've completely given up on getting both LeBron AND George. If they're satisfied with just LeBron then yes, they don't need the salaries to match.

Of course the Lakers would want to add that terrible contract, but it's a non starter from the Spurs perspective.

[LakersSoul]

I believe the Spurs would have to take Deng for the salaries to somewhat match.

Lakers are under the cap so the salary doesnt have to match which is another benefit of trading with the Lakers instead of Cavs or Houston or whomever.

I'm sure they want the salaries to match, that is of course they've completely given up on getting both LeBron AND George. If they're satisfied with just LeBron then yes, they don't need the salaries to match.

They only have room for 2 MAX guys, not 3, unless we can send everyone out.