Woj: Lakers no longer a slam dunk for Lebron, Sixers are the team to watch **Update currently meeting with sixers**

[Duke4life831]

I just have a hard time seeing Ainge letting Kawhi go to Philly knowing that LeBron will follow. Boston can easily trump any other offer out there. I think the second Ainge gets whiff of a possible trade being done with Philly, he will come in and squash it.

Giving up Irving, Brown and pick?

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

[Chinook]

I just have a hard time seeing Ainge letting Kawhi go to Philly knowing that LeBron will follow. Boston can easily trump any other offer out there. I think the second Ainge gets whiff of a possible trade being done with Philly, he will come in and squash it.

Giving up Irving, Brown and pick?

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

[Sixerscan]

Rozier is a much better fit next to Murray with his ability to play on and off the ball than Fultz. Morris is a solid.

I will agree to disagree. But a Celtics package with those those assets would seem to outbid Philly pretty easily. That’s not even factoring in potential sign and trade scenarios for Marcus Smart.

Rozier has no place in this trade. That's even more true after SA drafted another guard and signed on in free agency (and had Danny opt in). Getting a high-upside guy with the size to defend three positions is one thing, but an expiring with Rozier was never going to be the guy.

And did you just try to bring in Smart? I know everyone has their own opinions, but packages built around Rozier and Smart just don't... I mean I'd rather have Kuzma...

You feelings on Rozier and Smart are similar to how I feel about RoCo and Saric. Covington is basically the Philly version of Jae Crowder. Saric is solid but similar to Rozier is expecting to get paid. Neither of those guys are future all stars in the making.

But Jaylen Brown/Sac pick and Memphis pick >>>> Fultz and Miami pick.

You are right that it only matters what San Antonio thinks. But based off their history of drafting Smart and tough players that can shoot. Does Fultz really strike you as someone they would highly value based on that history? I don’t see any scenario where they value Fultz close to a player like Jaylen Brown.

Smart is a free agent and Rozier is a year away from being a free agent. I'm not sure how they compare to guys like Saric and Covington locked into contracts.

You're assuming Smart even wants to go there... and if he doesn't you pretty much have to include Brown just to match salaries.

[Michael Lucky]

Lakers media is pathetic.
Every year its the same shtick. Start up rumors that some big name FA will sign with them. How shameless can you get....

LA media aren't the ones that are doing this. It's the major network pushing on this narrative including all the big national radio hosts

[TheNewEra]

Idk if it’s just Brown and some picks I’m just offering Fultz, Covington, and picks. That seems crazy to sell the farm when other teams aren’t making huge offers. Jaylen is nice but he looks to be a strong starter type player.

Only way I see Jaylen becoming a All-Star level player is if he gets traded to a East team and is given the keys like Victor Oladipo

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Simmons/McConnell/Jackson
Redick/Fultz/Z. Smith/Korkmaz
James/Covington/Anderson/Luwawu
Saric/Holmes/Bolden
Embiid/Paseniks

That's a formidable roster, without Kawhi.

[zshawn10]

Read on Twitter

[Sixerscan]

Simmons/McConnell/Jackson
Redick/Luwawu/Z. Smith
James/Anderson/Korkmaz
Saric/Holmes/Bolden
Embiid/Paseniks

That's a formidable roster, without Kawhi.

Where did Covington and Fultz go?

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Simmons/McConnell/Jackson
Redick/Luwawu/Z. Smith
James/Anderson/Korkmaz
Saric/Holmes/Bolden
Embiid/Paseniks

That's a formidable roster, without Kawhi.

Where did Covington and Fultz go?

Oh yeah, forgot about those guys lol. Put Fultz in there instead of Luwawu, Covington instead of Anderson. Formidable.

[Chinook]

Simmons/McConnell/Jackson
Redick/Luwawu/Z. Smith
James/Anderson/Korkmaz
Saric/Holmes/Bolden
Embiid/Paseniks

That's a formidable roster, without Kawhi.

Where did Covington and Fultz go?

Someone had to be cut.

[Duke4life831]

Giving up Irving, Brown and pick?

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

[7r5ur]

Simmons/McConnell/Jackson
Redick/Luwawu/Z. Smith
James/Anderson/Korkmaz
Saric/Holmes/Bolden
Embiid/Paseniks

That's a formidable roster, without Kawhi.

Where did Covington and Fultz go?

I think Philly traded them for 65 2nd round picks

[KingFox]

I still see Lebron going to LA but idk of course

Even his kids going to high school in philly just doesn’t seem realistic to me

[Sixerscan]

No all reports are we have offered Rozier, Morris and the Sac pick but have been unwilling to offer Jaylen Brown.

With all their wings I'm not sure why Boston would be that into Kawhi with his injuries and flight risk. Maybe they'll bluff an offer or something but I think they're most interested in waiting for someone like AD or Towns to become available.

I agree with the assessment. But I also think the Celtics don’t want Philly to get Kawhi either which could force their hand. Maybe seeing PG resign in OKC gives them more confidence to make a deal without any guarantees from Kawhis camp.

Ultimately I still think Kawhi and Lebron goto LA but we shall see.

That just seems not like how Ainge operates.

Listen if Celtics fans want to feel good about themselves "oh we could totally outbid Philly or LA for Kawhi" yeah I mean fine that's probably right... I'm just not sure why they would want to.

[TheNewEra]

Simmons/McConnell/Jackson
Redick/Luwawu/Z. Smith
James/Anderson/Korkmaz
Saric/Holmes/Bolden
Embiid/Paseniks

That's a formidable roster, without Kawhi.

Where did Covington and Fultz go?

Be shocked as well if Zhaire Smith couldn’t beat out TLC for minutes even being raw.

[sfernald]

Boston fans right now:

Not really. I think it would just force us to outbid Philly which would be pretty easy if we added Jaylen Brown and the Sac pick.

Exactly. Don't think the Celtics aren't right now upping the offer for Kawhi.

Ainge opens his coat in a shadowy alley... Hey you want a slightly broken Kyrie or a seriously broken but more fresh Hayward?

[Chinook]

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

Rozier has zero (0) value to the Spurs, especially against Fultz. Maybe they do like Williams (I know I did), but probably not more than Saric. Covington's the legit SF replacement they need if they are going to try to keep winning. The SAC and MEM picks are overrated and don't cancel out Fultz and the MIA pick.

More importantly, I imagine SA would negotiate in full faith with Philly. Unless they specifically covet those guys from Boston, they aren't going to agree to a deal with Philly but back away just because of another offer. They just don't work that way. If Philly offers "enough" for Kawhi, they will win. PATFO has never been a team that cares about maximizing "value".

[nitocobola]

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

yeah sure and the TD garden.. danny ainge isn't trading two picks, rozier and jaylen brown for kawih with a one year left in his contract.

He is the best gm in the league because he just doesn't get fleced.

The lakers aren't trading ingram and kuzma for kawih without landing lebron.

And the sixers aren't even incluiding markelle at this point.

[chrisab123]

I dont think they need to give up Irving to easily have the best offer. Brown would easily be the best player and they still have a treasure chest of 1st round picks.

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

Brown can top anything Philly can realistically offer. Has a better chance to be a horse than ponies like RoCo. Good players but Brown has star potential and helped bring his team to the ECF. Him plus Rozier widens the gap even further.

[Duke4life831]

Yeah, I don't think that gets it done. It would be one thing if Ainge led with that and pushed away other teams, but unless RC has been calling Danny begging for Brown, suddenly adding him to the offer isn't going to get PATFO to break off talks with Philly.

What is Philly offering that is so great though? Fultz/Covington/Saric? Their own draft pick and a 2021 Miami pick? Thats not really an offer someone cant refuse there. The SAC pick has far greater value than any pick Philly can offer, the Memphis pick has better value than any Philly can offer.

Brown/Rozier/Williams/(whoever else needed to make cap work) + SAC/Mem/BOS picks. Beats whatever Philly can offer.

yeah sure and the TD garden.. danny ainge isn't trading two picks, rozier and jaylen brown for kawih with a one year left in his contract..

He is the best gm in the league because he just doesn't get fleced.

I can agree with this. All Im saying is he has the assets to jump in the last minute if he wanted to.