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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#181 » by blueNorange » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:54 pm

realball wrote:He's a good shotblocker, but he's awful otherwise. Let's hope he improves, because he's one of the most undisciplined players I have ever seen. Jumps at everything.

how many games you've seen him play? be honest.

because if you have then you'd know he's not awful otherwise. :lol: if the 2018 draft is redone he's a lotto pick. he's gotten a lot better rebounding, better positioning, and has a working jumpshot.

his work ethic is good, he learns quick.

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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#182 » by dakomish23 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:54 pm

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AussieBuck wrote:Tall guy who jumps at literally everything blocks a lot of shots.

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Tall guy who jumps at literally everything doesn't consistently block jump shots every game. Just Mitchell Robinson.

C'mon man... At least watch some footage


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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#183 » by DaGawd » Mon Mar 25, 2019 7:08 pm

realball wrote:He's a good shotblocker, but he's awful otherwise. Let's hope he improves, because he's one of the most undisciplined players I have ever seen. Jumps at everything.

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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#184 » by Clyde Frazier » Mon Mar 25, 2019 8:41 pm

realball wrote:He's a good shotblocker, but he's awful otherwise. Let's hope he improves, because he's one of the most undisciplined players I have ever seen. Jumps at everything.


This isn't accurate.
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Post#187 » by HeartBreakKid » Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:33 am

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You mean the guy that's only 1 month older than Cam Reddish and younger than several of the top lottery picks this year? He looks fine for such a young rookie, he shows flashes of what he can become and struggles in other games, what exactly were you expecting from the 9th pick who happens to be one of the youngest players in the league?
No offense but yall werw saying the same things about Frank.



I still like Frank, especially as a 2-guard who just has to shoot open shots and play defense. Knox has shown more offensive potential than Frank, they are two different players with two different expectations around them, I don't get why people want Knick fans to be down on our players. We have some nice prospects, Robinson, Smith, Dotson and Knox are very nice young players, and I'm not going to give up on Frank anytime soon........so.........


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Being down and being realistic are two different things - in the grand scheme of things players like Dotson and Knox are really not worth mentioning (I honestly don't see why people think Knox is so great of a prospect even before his stinker season).
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#188 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:00 am

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Yeezus_ wrote:No offense but yall werw saying the same things about Frank.



I still like Frank, especially as a 2-guard who just has to shoot open shots and play defense. Knox has shown more offensive potential than Frank, they are two different players with two different expectations around them, I don't get why people want Knick fans to be down on our players. We have some nice prospects, Robinson, Smith, Dotson and Knox are very nice young players, and I'm not going to give up on Frank anytime soon........so.........


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Being down and being realistic are two different things - in the grand scheme of things players like Dotson and Knox are really not worth mentioning (I honestly don't see why people think Knox is so great of a prospect even before his stinker season).



Did I say great prospects? No, I said nice prospects, not every player is going to be a all-star if Dotson ends up a rotational player which it seems like he can be then I'm happy with that. Again, who said Knox is a great prospect? He was the 9th pick and has shown some flashes, he's the youngest player in the NBA and the same age or younger than some of the upcoming rookies (He's 1 month older than Reddish). Are Knick fans just to throw every young player in the trash because they aren't lighting the world on fire? Knox had a fine rookie season and showed fans things we wanted to see, nobody is calling him the next Kobe or saying they wouldn't trade him for Anthony Davis :lol:
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#190 » by JamesDolan » Tue Apr 2, 2019 12:33 pm

I love to see this kid end up on my Warriors. Fast becoming a huge fan of his.

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Post#191 » by contestedlayups » Tue Apr 2, 2019 1:16 pm

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Post#192 » by ratul » Tue Apr 2, 2019 1:19 pm

I like his game. Had a couple interesting moments against the raps.
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Post#193 » by MKWB » Tue Apr 2, 2019 2:54 pm

Knicks pick, Mitchell Robinson, some of Knox, DSJ, Dotson, Nitilikina, DAL picks - for AD. Seems like it will come down to Knicks or Celtics for AD.
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Post#194 » by E-Balla » Tue Apr 2, 2019 3:21 pm

MKWB wrote:Knicks pick, Mitchell Robinson, some of Knox, DSJ, Dotson, Nitilikina, DAL picks - for AD. Seems like it will come down to Knicks or Celtics for AD.

Yeah no way you get Mitch, every other prospect we have, a #1 lotto bid, and all our future extra picks. That's just dumb as hell.

If we get the 1st you'll be lucky to get more than just that Knox, DSJ, and Frank.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#195 » by Tron Carter » Tue Apr 2, 2019 3:30 pm

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MKWB wrote:Knicks pick, Mitchell Robinson, some of Knox, DSJ, Dotson, Nitilikina, DAL picks - for AD. Seems like it will come down to Knicks or Celtics for AD.

Yeah no way you get Mitch, every other prospect we have, a #1 lotto bid, and all our future extra picks. That's just dumb as hell.

If we get the 1st you'll be lucky to get more than just that Knox, DSJ, and Frank.


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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#196 » by Clyde Frazier » Tue Apr 2, 2019 3:46 pm

He’s starting now and continuing to show improvement. Played 30+ min in his last 3 games and has only committed 3 fouls per game. Since 2/1 (26 games) his FT% is up to a respectable 67.5% (44.7% in 35 games prior).

The absurd blocks continue, and he’s starting to show a little more variation in his scoring around the rim. Hits a lot of weird underhand flip shots from different angles due to his inspector gadget arms. Even though he’s a twig, also uses that length to just finish over guys stronger than him when he gets decent positioning.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#197 » by HawaiianJazzFan » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:28 pm

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Kate Winslow wrote:Myles Turner is the NBA's top shot blocker.


Nah, it's still Gobert. Players are just afraid to challenge him at the rim for the most part, coaches adjust their offense accordingly. So Gobert doesn't get enough chances to up his block numbers,

Gobert's never even been #1 at rim protection. Embiid and Porzingis both ranked higher than him the last 2 years.

Also what you said was statistically false Rudy is 2nd in defended shots at the rim only under Embiid and slightly over Myles Turner. Percentage wise Derrick Favors is on another level from Gobert (and is usually top 5ish), and Brook Lopez is also over Gobert most seasons including this season. Gobert as an overall defensive package is the best but his rim protection alone is merely very good, not all time level.



Dude you are wrong. Gobert led rim protection for two years including a sub 40% level in 2015 and 2016.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15198958/nba-awards-ballot-part-2

He [whiteside] is wrapping one of the greatest shot-blocking seasons ever.
But that addiction to swattage leaves Whiteside out of position when he comes up empty, clearing the lane for easy offensive boards and drop-off passes; the Heat rebound a higher percentage of opponent misses with Whiteside on the bench. His second jump, and second effort, are slower and less urgent than you'd expect.

And as I wrote Tuesday, dudes are beating him up a little bit in the post; opponents have hit 51 percent of post-up shots against him, per Synergy Sports, one of the worst marks in the league among big men who have faced a lot of such plays. Stepping out on the pick-and-roll remains an issue -- as it is for almost every 7-footer.

That includes Gobert. But he's a little faster gliding through tight spaces, and more careful deciding when to lunge for a block. Opponents have hit only 41 percent of shots around the rim with Gobert nearby, the stingiest mark in the league among rotation big men, and he's a hair tougher to score on in the post.


Gobert has led this stat for 3 years. I believe him and Hibbert have had the only sub 40% seasons since this stat was tracked, when you account for playing a whole season as a starter. Oddly enough, you can say what you want about Favors but Gobert’s rim protection numbers were better when he started games with Kanter than when he does with Favors.

Also, one huge aspect to rudy’s Decline in rim protection in the last couple years... he doesn’t foul. He doesn’t have the issue many rim protectors have of fouling at extremely high rates. He has sacrificed going after everything and playing some of the smartest defense I have seen from a big man.

Anyways, Mitchell Robinson is awesom and I’m excited to see how he grows, I just wanted to correct this.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#198 » by blueNorange » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:28 pm

MKWB wrote:Knicks pick, Mitchell Robinson, some of Knox, DSJ, Dotson, Nitilikina, DAL picks - for AD. Seems like it will come down to Knicks or Celtics for AD.

knicks aren't trading mitchell robinson when it looks like mitchell robinson was a top 10 pick all along.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#199 » by E-Balla » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:44 pm

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Nah, it's still Gobert. Players are just afraid to challenge him at the rim for the most part, coaches adjust their offense accordingly. So Gobert doesn't get enough chances to up his block numbers,

Gobert's never even been #1 at rim protection. Embiid and Porzingis both ranked higher than him the last 2 years.

Also what you said was statistically false Rudy is 2nd in defended shots at the rim only under Embiid and slightly over Myles Turner. Percentage wise Derrick Favors is on another level from Gobert (and is usually top 5ish), and Brook Lopez is also over Gobert most seasons including this season. Gobert as an overall defensive package is the best but his rim protection alone is merely very good, not all time level.



Dude you are wrong. Gobert led rim protection for two years including a sub 40% level in 2015 and 2016.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15198958/nba-awards-ballot-part-2

He [whiteside] is wrapping one of the greatest shot-blocking seasons ever.
But that addiction to swattage leaves Whiteside out of position when he comes up empty, clearing the lane for easy offensive boards and drop-off passes; the Heat rebound a higher percentage of opponent misses with Whiteside on the bench. His second jump, and second effort, are slower and less urgent than you'd expect.

And as I wrote Tuesday, dudes are beating him up a little bit in the post; opponents have hit 51 percent of post-up shots against him, per Synergy Sports, one of the worst marks in the league among big men who have faced a lot of such plays. Stepping out on the pick-and-roll remains an issue -- as it is for almost every 7-footer.

That includes Gobert. But he's a little faster gliding through tight spaces, and more careful deciding when to lunge for a block. Opponents have hit only 41 percent of shots around the rim with Gobert nearby, the stingiest mark in the league among rotation big men, and he's a hair tougher to score on in the post.


Gobert has led this stat for 3 years. I believe him and Hibbert have had the only sub 40% seasons since this stat was tracked, when you account for playing a whole season as a starter. Oddly enough, you can say what you want about Favors but Gobert’s rim protection numbers were better when he started games with Kanter than when he does with Favors.

Also, one huge aspect to rudy’s Decline in rim protection in the last couple years... he doesn’t foul. He doesn’t have the issue many rim protectors have of fouling at extremely high rates. He has sacrificed going after everything and playing some of the smartest defense I have seen from a big man.

Anyways, Mitchell Robinson is awesom and I’m excited to see how he grows, I just wanted to correct this.

Well none of this is true no matter what that ESPN article says. The numbers are available on nba.com.

https://stats.nba.com/players/defense-dash-lt6/?sort=PLUSMINUS&dir=-1&CF=FGA_LT_06*GE*4:GP*GE*20&Season=2018-19&SeasonType=Regular%20Season

In 2015 Gobert was 6th.
In 2016 Gobert was 5th.
In 2017 Gobert was 3rd.
In 2018 Gobert was 7th.
This year Gobert is 6th.
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Re: Mitchell Robinson is the NBA’s top shot blocker 

Post#200 » by mudsak » Tue Apr 2, 2019 4:58 pm

The kid obviously has a ton of potential to develop into a special player. Has a broad skillset, super athletic, bothersome size.
Anyone would be stoked to have this kid on their team.

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