MJ VS LEBRON VS WHOEVER THREAD

[70sFan]

Do you penalize everybody that has played since 1993? There are still the same number of teams so it is not like the dilution of talent has changed.

I don't penalize anyone, I just don't think playing one more round against bad team changes much.

BTW, talent pool is bigger today than it used to be due to international players.

are you trying to say there werent international players in the 90s?

By the way the talent pool is smaller 35% less kids play sports than they did in the 80s, making it considerably smaller.

So 1990s is stronger than 2010s but 1960d is weak era? I love MJ fans logic...

[DoItALL9]

What a fraud. Should have went 15/15 if he wants to be considered the GOAT.

Caught the sarcasm but this made me think of Russell's career.

11/13 with one of the two being injury related in his opinion

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[Metallikid]

Posts like this deserve an insta ban.

Edit: No matter what kind of argument you make, you will never erase 2011.

I think a lot of people believe 2016 more than makes up for that.

[Cowbulls]

Robert Horry won 7 COUNT IT 7 times with 3 different teams..Nobody topping that.

Horry >>>> Lebron

[KokoKaizer]

asterisk rings, ducked hakeem at his peak.

Maybe he should have been a cupcake coward like lebron, and had Hakeem join the bulls for 5 more rings in a row! Too bad he isnt a coward, and is a competitor

maybe he shoudn't have gambled so hard and got his father killed

When you have no argument happens...

Sad...

[KokoKaizer]

Man, these star worshiping kids are out in full force lately. Hate to break it to you kids, but all these idol worshiping is worthless and waste of time. You'll learn when you grow older. Stop wasting time defending your idols, world doesn't change or care one bit about your opinion.

Underrated post

[DoItALL9]

Reality is what can be directly observed, not what can be assumed. All potential observations, to the best of what is possible, indicate Lebron had comparable or greater value at his peak and that his value took far longer to depreciate.

I'll grant you that here, value at peak is harder to discern unlike say, KG vs Kobe, where the former's superiority reamined true under a wide variety of contexts.

Nothing indicates that LeBron had comparable career to Jordan other than empty stats in a weak era.

Empty? Buddy, implying stats that are directly derived from winning is empty indicates you think winning is worthless.

Jordan was the one who played in expnasion, not lebron

What years qualify as the expansion era(s) in your opinion?

Did the creation of the Bobcats create another expansion era?

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[Liver_Pooty]

Did you mispell Russell?

Jordan's bulls coasted to contention without him, Russell's celtics were average in his absence.

Do you have like, any concept of history?

Err do you have like, any concept of history? There were 6 teams in the playoffs when he played. **** there were about 2 more in the NBA at the start of the 60s. What the **** is coasting to contention? Losing in the second round to the Knicks, how we say things matters it turns out.

Yeah, playing against expansion teams like 1993 Miami Heat made Bulls much harder to win title...

Miami had been in the league a few years by that point.

[pwrshft99]

1. Reads topic
2. Considers serious rebuttal
3. Notices ballboy status
4. Ahhh **** it, let's **** post.

[Optms]

Jordan without his rings (which the Bulls won for him) is basically Kobe. But since Jordan never torched the juggernaut Raptors of 2006 for 81..

Kobe > Jordan

1. Kareem
2. Lebron
3. Kobe
4. Magic
5. West/Shaq/Jordan

[70sFan]

Err do you have like, any concept of history? There were 6 teams in the playoffs when he played. **** there were about 2 more in the NBA at the start of the 60s. What the **** is coasting to contention? Losing in the second round to the Knicks, how we say things matters it turns out.

Yeah, playing against expansion teams like 1993 Miami Heat made Bulls much harder to win title...

Miami had been in the league a few years by that point.

So what? My point is that Miami sucked, they were no threat to Bulls at all. Why does it make 1992 Bulls ring more impressive than 1969 Celtics, who faced three 50 win teams (in a league that made it tougher to accomplish)?

[rzzzzz]

Don't forget 10-0 Sam Jones and 8-0 Tom Heinsohn.

I think Heinsohn played in Russell's sprained-ankle Finals loss, as did Cousy and Sharman. Havlicek, however, really was 8-0, with some of those wins having come as the best player on the team.

could have sworn Jones and Havlicek both lost with Russell in '67. (But everybody who played with Russell won ALMOST every championship he competed for, including NCAA and Olympics.)

[Liver_Pooty]

Yeah, playing against expansion teams like 1993 Miami Heat made Bulls much harder to win title...

Miami had been in the league a few years by that point.

So what? My point is that Miami sucked, they were no threat to Bulls at all. Why does it make 1992 Bulls ring more impressive than 1969 Celtics, who faced three 50 win teams (in a league that made it tougher to accomplish)?

Just stating that Miami wasn't an expansion team in 1993 as you claimed. I can tell this is a sensitive subject for you. Carry on.

[Dino353]

This dude Jordan was getting guarded by Craig Ehlo who was 180 soak and wet. All this Jordan garbage is marketing even on YouTube they describe it as if he actually guarded Barkley,Bird, and Magic. Isiah was pushing his crap in for years and no one talks about it, it’s like Wilt said “They changed the rules to make it harder for me”, “They changed the rules to make it easier for you”. Like Bill Walton conversation over.

[Dino353]

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the real GOAT.

[jc23]

realGM needs to create a thread approval AI.

[KokoKaizer]

Jordan without his rings (which the Bulls won for him) is basically Kobe. But since Jordan never torched the juggernaut Raptors of 2006 for 81..

Kobe > Jordan

1. Kareem
2. Lebron
3. Kobe
4. Magic
5. Shaq
6. West
7. Nick Van Exel
8. Pau Gasol
9. Worthy
10.Eddy Jones
11. CP3 (only for basketball reasons)
12. Kwame Brown
13. Kuzma
then, maybe, why not Jordan
Am I Right ?

[Dino353]

These Jordan loons won’t ever understand that we are aware of the cupcakes he was getting guarded by. While Kobe was guarded by a 6’8 Sean Elliott Jordan was guarded by Dwarf Starks and Cupcake Ehlo, Danny Ainge? Lol Give me a break it’s comical the competition that myth had.

I’m sure some of you Jordan loons really think his shoes make you better on the court, losers.

[70sFan]

Miami had been in the league a few years by that point.

So what? My point is that Miami sucked, they were no threat to Bulls at all. Why does it make 1992 Bulls ring more impressive than 1969 Celtics, who faced three 50 win teams (in a league that made it tougher to accomplish)?

Just stating that Miami wasn't an expansion team in 1993 as you claimed. I can tell this is a sensitive subject for you. Carry on.

It was their 4th season, if you want to call it non-expansion team then fine. Don't act like they were good though.
Sensitive subject? In what way? Don't be ridiculous

[snaquille oatmeal]

Is Horry 7-0 or 7-1?