Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV (Must read Post 1)

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Post#181 » by DingleJerry » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:38 pm

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DingleJerry wrote:Haven't ran through all the recent pages. But just wanted to say that I watched a bunch of the press conference earlier and I actually thought Donny and his people handled themselves well and said all the right things. As a critic it was refreshing to see their eyes are finally opened.

Curious which presser you watched, because he's getting (justifiably) roasted for his childishness from earlier today?

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Well I acknowledge I didn't see all of it. But you do have to remember he's going to ripped on in every presser no matter what. Watching as much as I did though there is context to things like this. Frankly they did ask tons of terrible pure political questions to try and pick a fight with him. Sometimes he just skipped and went to a real question. Others yea he'd 'keep it real' so to speak. IMO, the times I saw when he did kind of scold them, he was in the right to do so. They're asking these question because they know eventually he'll pop off and then boom, click bait for all

For example, he made an innocent joke when introducing the head of State Dept about how they call it "deep state". Innocent joke. Just a few minutes later the question is "do you think its appropriate and a good message, is it disrespectful for the president to be calling the people in this department "deep state". That's a terrible question. State handled it well, saying how he knows the president respects everyon in his dept and how hard they're working. Now, onto a real question.

Note, this is coming from someone who hates him and has been critical the whole time.
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Post#182 » by Crizzle » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:40 pm

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Post#183 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:42 pm

So the stimulus package has made it through the house to the senate now?
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Post#184 » by Dirk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:42 pm

Important info, apparently a fresh analysis of the death, but matches previous data.

Italy

- only 0.8% had no prior medical conditions
-25% had 1 other ilness
-25% had 2
-48% had 3

Age

Only 10% are younger than 60

Average age of the infected in Italy 63. In China it's 46.

Image distribution
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- 2655 in intensive care currently

This is an official report with today's data. They look at a number of people that died.
You can see all the illnesses on the left and at the bottom, they have 0, 1, 2, 3

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https://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/Report+per+COVID_20_3_2019.pdf/f4d20257-53d5-eb89-087e-285e2cadf44f?t=1584727721898

Tl;DR
Tell your parents to stay the **** inside. If they catch this thing, they are likely going to need hospital care, like this
https://www.facebook.com/PoliclinicoSanMartino/photos/a.1152360031535276/2428454270592506/?type=3&theater
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Post#185 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:46 pm

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They clearly dont have them to just pass out like pregnancy test to just see. But i would imagine if i go to a hospital right now with corona symptoms then im gonna get one.

Is that incorrect?
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Post#186 » by Badonkadonk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:46 pm

DingleJerry wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:Haven't ran through all the recent pages. But just wanted to say that I watched a bunch of the press conference earlier and I actually thought Donny and his people handled themselves well and said all the right things. As a critic it was refreshing to see their eyes are finally opened.

Curious which presser you watched, because he's getting (justifiably) roasted for his childishness from earlier today?

Read on Twitter
?s=20


Well I acknowledge I didn't see all of it. But you do have to remember he's going to ripped on in every presser no matter what. Watching as much as I did though there is context to things like this. Frankly they did ask tons of terrible pure political questions to try and pick a fight with him. Sometimes he just skipped and went to a real question. Others yea he'd 'keep it real' so to speak. IMO, the times I saw when he did kind of scold them, he was in the right to do so. They're asking these question because they know eventually he'll pop off and then boom, click bait for all

For example, he made an innocent joke when introducing the head of State Dept about how they call it "deep state". Innocent joke. Just a few minutes later the question is "do you think its appropriate and a good message, is it disrespectful for the president to be calling the people in this department "deep state". That's a terrible question. State handled it well, saying how he knows the president respects everyon in his dept and how hard they're working. Now, onto a real question.

Note, this is coming from someone who hates him and has been critical the whole time.

Fair enough, I agree that it's counterproductive when media-row is overly dramatic or baiting.

The wild thing about the exchange above was that it was a pure softball question, one you often here a reporter ask a leader so they can be reassuring and firm. It almost makes me wonder if Trump misheard the question, his anger doesn't even make sense.
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Re: Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV (Must read Post 1) 

Post#187 » by Badonkadonk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:48 pm

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Crizzle wrote:
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They clearly dont have them to just pass out like pregnancy test to just see. But i would imagine if i go to a hospital right now with corona symptoms then im gonna get one.

Is that incorrect?

That is incorrect - it depends on a number of factors, most notably where you are and the severity of your symptoms.
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Post#188 » by BballIsLife11 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:49 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Curious which presser you watched, because he's getting (justifiably) roasted for his childishness from earlier today?

Read on Twitter
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Well I acknowledge I didn't see all of it. But you do have to remember he's going to ripped on in every presser no matter what. Watching as much as I did though there is context to things like this. Frankly they did ask tons of terrible pure political questions to try and pick a fight with him. Sometimes he just skipped and went to a real question. Others yea he'd 'keep it real' so to speak. IMO, the times I saw when he did kind of scold them, he was in the right to do so. They're asking these question because they know eventually he'll pop off and then boom, click bait for all

For example, he made an innocent joke when introducing the head of State Dept about how they call it "deep state". Innocent joke. Just a few minutes later the question is "do you think its appropriate and a good message, is it disrespectful for the president to be calling the people in this department "deep state". That's a terrible question. State handled it well, saying how he knows the president respects everyon in his dept and how hard they're working. Now, onto a real question.

Note, this is coming from someone who hates him and has been critical the whole time.

Fair enough, I agree that it's counterproductive when media-row is overly dramatic or baiting.

The wild thing about the exchange above was that it was a pure softball question, one you often here a reporter ask a leader so they can be reassuring and firm. It almost makes me wonder if Trump misheard the question, his anger doesn't even make sense.


I watched the entire conference and in fairness that is not the full context. It was specifically about the topic of him giving false hope about treatment medication.
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Post#189 » by Bandit King » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:50 pm

Trump only likes questions from fox and friends even if the reporter from comcast was throwing a nice softball!
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Post#190 » by boycottlettuce » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:51 pm

Doug_12 wrote:More on the funny part of the stuff - although this doesn't help the elevated discussion, but hopefully Dirk and the mods won't mind:


My question is: Can someone provide a transcript on what she is saying? I mean, I tried to understand and understood a few parts here and there but as a whole, I never did.


Translation attempt:
I don't understand how this virus came from Wuhan China to the US (air travel is too confusing to me). I used to not be scared, but now I'm scared, no lie. Many of you think this is a joke, like ghe ghe ghe ghe ghe ghe, like I used to think, but this is no joke. You may not think this will impact you because you're immune to it, but this will definitely impact your finances. If you wonder why your hair implants and designer clothes isn't arriving on time, it's because they are imported from China. And now you can't resell them here in the US. Poop is real. Poop is getting real. Coronavirus!
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Post#191 » by Stillwater » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:54 pm

Given the staggering numbers of deaths per day bump in past few days in Italy who I trust the data of more than some places/paired with the growing concern of complacency in their disregard for the recommendations to stay home by many people who didn't take this seriously and are only now trying to catch up by standing in long populated lines for survival needs / many of whom do not have masks or refuse to wear them etc...there is very little to be optimistic about as far as the ultimate long term hit we are going to take as a nation.
I have been on personal isolation with Family only for some time now , but I have been getting a lot of calls and text from friends in need describing the horrid situations they are starting to face and the reality setting in this may be here for a long time.
Unfortunately for them it may be too late.
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Post#192 » by DingleJerry » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:55 pm

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Badonkadonk wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Curious which presser you watched, because he's getting (justifiably) roasted for his childishness from earlier today?

Read on Twitter
?s=20


Well I acknowledge I didn't see all of it. But you do have to remember he's going to ripped on in every presser no matter what. Watching as much as I did though there is context to things like this. Frankly they did ask tons of terrible pure political questions to try and pick a fight with him. Sometimes he just skipped and went to a real question. Others yea he'd 'keep it real' so to speak. IMO, the times I saw when he did kind of scold them, he was in the right to do so. They're asking these question because they know eventually he'll pop off and then boom, click bait for all

For example, he made an innocent joke when introducing the head of State Dept about how they call it "deep state". Innocent joke. Just a few minutes later the question is "do you think its appropriate and a good message, is it disrespectful for the president to be calling the people in this department "deep state". That's a terrible question. State handled it well, saying how he knows the president respects everyon in his dept and how hard they're working. Now, onto a real question.

Note, this is coming from someone who hates him and has been critical the whole time.

Fair enough, I agree that it's counterproductive when media-row is overly dramatic or baiting.

The wild thing about the exchange above was that it was a pure softball question, one you often here a reporter ask a leader so they can be reassuring and firm. It almost makes me wonder if Trump misheard the question, his anger doesn't even make sense.


I'd guess he got caught on how the reporter rattled off the scary numbers in the lead to it. At that point he was ready to go and probably missed that the actual question at the end wasn't all that bad.
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Post#193 » by Doug_12 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:56 pm

boycottlettuce wrote:
Doug_12 wrote:More on the funny part of the stuff - although this doesn't help the elevated discussion, but hopefully Dirk and the mods won't mind:


My question is: Can someone provide a transcript on what she is saying? I mean, I tried to understand and understood a few parts here and there but as a whole, I never did.


Translation attempt:
I don't understand how this virus came from Wuhan China to the US (air travel is too confusing to me). I used to not be scared, but now I'm scared, no lie. Many of you think this is a joke, like ghe ghe ghe ghe ghe ghe, like I used to think, but this is no joke. You may not think this will impact you because you're immune to it, but this will definitely impact your finances. If you wonder why your hair implants and designer clothes isn't arriving on time, it's because they are imported from China. And now you can't resell them here in the US. Poop is real. Poop is getting real. Coronavirus!

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Post#194 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:58 pm

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Post#195 » by rugbyrugger23 » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:02 pm

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Hmmm are you bring sarcastic?
Politely ask? The country lives paycheck to paycheck, employment has been shut down, and our leaders are dragging their feet on implementing rather traditional ways to battle what looks to be a historical economic crisis and you want us to politely ask? Wow.


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And when it does, and you have your check in hand, you will say, "Why wasn't it more? Or why not sooner? Or where is my next one."

What this thread is too littered with is asking what more their country can do for them -- which is blaming culture no matter what was/is done.

I for one am going to take what they give me but also ask what more I can do with what they give me. Stay home. Stay calm. Don't hoard. Help others (in a safe way). Take in information legit sources to shape my view of this pandemic we all find ourselves in. Not get mad at Trump/every public official for every decision which is made and second guess it from the comfort of my home knowing they are getting information/data we can't comprehend in this every changing pandemic. And be confident our citizens will pull through this and be better on the other side.
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Post#196 » by Dirk » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:04 pm

Crizzle wrote:
Dirk just let me know if im going off tilt and i will shut up

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Post#197 » by homecourtloss » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:06 pm

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Post#198 » by chrismikayla » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:06 pm

Dirk wrote:Important info, apparently a fresh analysis of the death, but matches previous data.

Italy

- only 0.8% had no prior medical conditions
-25% had 1 other ilness
-25% had 2
-48% had 3

Age

Only 10% are younger than 60

Average age of the infected in Italy 63. In China it's 46.

Image distribution
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- 2655 in intensive care currently

This is an official report with today's data. They look at 3200 people.
You can see all the illnesses on the left and at the bottom, they have 0, 1, 2, 3

Image
https://www.iss.it/documents/20126/0/Report+per+COVID_20_3_2019.pdf/f4d20257-53d5-eb89-087e-285e2cadf44f?t=1584727721898

Tl;DR
Tell your parents to stay the **** inside. If they catch this thing, they are likely going to need hospital care, like this
https://www.facebook.com/PoliclinicoSanMartino/photos/a.1152360031535276/2428454270592506/?type=3&theater



I need to translate that chart to English
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Post#199 » by Ainosterhaspie » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:08 pm

Badonkadonk wrote:
DingleJerry wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Curious which presser you watched, because he's getting (justifiably) roasted for his childishness from earlier today?

Read on Twitter
?s=20


Well I acknowledge I didn't see all of it. But you do have to remember he's going to ripped on in every presser no matter what. Watching as much as I did though there is context to things like this. Frankly they did ask tons of terrible pure political questions to try and pick a fight with him. Sometimes he just skipped and went to a real question. Others yea he'd 'keep it real' so to speak. IMO, the times I saw when he did kind of scold them, he was in the right to do so. They're asking these question because they know eventually he'll pop off and then boom, click bait for all

For example, he made an innocent joke when introducing the head of State Dept about how they call it "deep state". Innocent joke. Just a few minutes later the question is "do you think its appropriate and a good message, is it disrespectful for the president to be calling the people in this department "deep state". That's a terrible question. State handled it well, saying how he knows the president respects everyon in his dept and how hard they're working. Now, onto a real question.

Note, this is coming from someone who hates him and has been critical the whole time.

Fair enough, I agree that it's counterproductive when media-row is overly dramatic or baiting.

The wild thing about the exchange above was that it was a pure softball question, one you often here a reporter ask a leader so they can be reassuring and firm. It almost makes me wonder if Trump misheard the question, his anger doesn't even make sense.

Watch the full exchange. There's an odd juxtaposition happening.

In one moment the reporter asks "Is it possible that your impulse to put a positive spin on things may be giving Americans a false sense of hope and misrepresenting the preparedness right now?" This is in the context of talking about the drug which is approved for other treatments and which has some indications it may be helpful in treating coronavirus, though further testing is needed to confirm.

Trump gives a lengthy response saying the drug is unproven for coronavirus, but he is hopeful it will be effective and there have been some good results with it.

The reporter then asks him "What [does he say] to Americans who are scared?" It's just an odd sequence by the reporter. In the most condensed form he suggests Trump is giving false hope and then asks Trump to give hope. The reporter is taking awaybl or tempering hope then asking the president to give what he's just taken away.

Trump's reaction at the end where he seems to have lost patience or decided it was the right moment to score points isn't the best look either. Trump's going to Trump, and its all kinds of annoying for many of us.

I'd just like to point out though that ramping up production now, before its proven to be effective, is the right thing to do. There's no doubt he would be eviscerated if he didn't do so, or waited until studies confirmed its effectiveness thereby delaying its use. That's why I think the reporter is wrong here. The right thing is being done and we really don't need to be quibbling about the right levels of hope connected to this drug.
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Post#200 » by MotownMadness » Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:08 pm

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