Homer38 wrote:gmoney411 wrote:Makes sense. We all know LeBron can win with lots of talent. But we also know LeBron will bail and/or complain about his teammates when they aren't. He's not toughing it out and waiting for help to come. I can't blame him for it but he's had a privilege that almost no other superstar has had and that's partly because he demanded it in a league that allowed it.
Look at a player like Hakeem. Went to the finals in his second year while beating the showtime Lakers. Then his team became trash and he was stuck with those guys for a long time. Imagine if he could have left to play with Drexler and Mullins. Then KJ and Kemp. Then Jason Kidd. You think he'd have at least 2 more rings with a great close out record?
LBJ has been in the finals with the 29th defense,just 2 years ago or winning 66 games with Mo Williams with the second best players in 2009,but he can't win without talent around him![]()
Unless,you think that only winning titles mean winning.Jordan doesn't have a good record without the great Scottie Pippen.
Jordan living rent free

Guy: talks about Hakeem
You: what about pippen? Who saved Jordan?

Also who cares about close out game record if it only brings 3(4) titles over 17 years...
Give me 30-13 and 6 titles in 13 year.