LeBron is by far the greatest close out game player in NBA history

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Re: LeBron is by far the greatest close out game player in NBA history 

Post#181 » by twyzted » Wed Oct 7, 2020 6:04 pm

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gmoney411 wrote:Makes sense. We all know LeBron can win with lots of talent. But we also know LeBron will bail and/or complain about his teammates when they aren't. He's not toughing it out and waiting for help to come. I can't blame him for it but he's had a privilege that almost no other superstar has had and that's partly because he demanded it in a league that allowed it.

Look at a player like Hakeem. Went to the finals in his second year while beating the showtime Lakers. Then his team became trash and he was stuck with those guys for a long time. Imagine if he could have left to play with Drexler and Mullins. Then KJ and Kemp. Then Jason Kidd. You think he'd have at least 2 more rings with a great close out record?



LBJ has been in the finals with the 29th defense,just 2 years ago or winning 66 games with Mo Williams with the second best players in 2009,but he can't win without talent around him :-?

Unless,you think that only winning titles mean winning.Jordan doesn't have a good record without the great Scottie Pippen.


Jordan living rent free :lol:
Guy: talks about Hakeem
You: what about pippen? Who saved Jordan? :lol:
Also who cares about close out game record if it only brings 3(4) titles over 17 years...
Give me 30-13 and 6 titles in 13 year.
Pennebaker wrote:Jordan lacks LeBron's mental toughness.
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Re: LeBron is by far the greatest close out game player in NBA history 

Post#182 » by Homer38 » Wed Oct 7, 2020 6:13 pm

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Homer38 wrote:
gmoney411 wrote:Makes sense. We all know LeBron can win with lots of talent. But we also know LeBron will bail and/or complain about his teammates when they aren't. He's not toughing it out and waiting for help to come. I can't blame him for it but he's had a privilege that almost no other superstar has had and that's partly because he demanded it in a league that allowed it.

Look at a player like Hakeem. Went to the finals in his second year while beating the showtime Lakers. Then his team became trash and he was stuck with those guys for a long time. Imagine if he could have left to play with Drexler and Mullins. Then KJ and Kemp. Then Jason Kidd. You think he'd have at least 2 more rings with a great close out record?



LBJ has been in the finals with the 29th defense,just 2 years ago or winning 66 games with Mo Williams with the second best players in 2009,but he can't win without talent around him :-?

Unless,you think that only winning titles mean winning.Jordan doesn't have a good record without the great Scottie Pippen.


Jordan living rent free :lol:
Guy: talks about Hakeem
You: what about pippen? Who saved Jordan? :lol:
Also who cares about close out game record if it only brings 3(4) titles over 17 years...
Give me 30-13 and 6 titles in 13 year.



Only 4 titles? :-?

C'mon man,it will be the same number of Shaq which is great if you consider that LBJ was not in a true contender for his first 7 years of his career.
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Re: LeBron is by far the greatest close out game player in NBA history 

Post#183 » by twyzted » Wed Oct 7, 2020 6:35 pm

Homer38 wrote:
twyzted wrote:
Homer38 wrote:

LBJ has been in the finals with the 29th defense,just 2 years ago or winning 66 games with Mo Williams with the second best players in 2009,but he can't win without talent around him :-?

Unless,you think that only winning titles mean winning.Jordan doesn't have a good record without the great Scottie Pippen.


Jordan living rent free :lol:
Guy: talks about Hakeem
You: what about pippen? Who saved Jordan? :lol:
Also who cares about close out game record if it only brings 3(4) titles over 17 years...
Give me 30-13 and 6 titles in 13 year.



Only 4 titles? :-?

C'mon man,it will be the same number of Shaq which is great if you consider that LBJ was not in a true contender for his first 7 years of his career.


Sorry i didnt check i thought this was his 17th season. So 3(4-5) in 17 years. He hasnt clinched this one yet :D

Im not taking anything from lebron he has had a great career. Easily 2nd of those ive watched play.
Pennebaker wrote:Jordan lacks LeBron's mental toughness.
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Re: LeBron is by far the greatest close out game player in NBA history 

Post#184 » by The Rodzilla » Wed Oct 7, 2020 9:02 pm

homecourtloss wrote:LeBron is 38-10 in closeout games, the best in NBA history.

LeBron, 38-10
Duncan, 35-14
Wade, 22-9
Shaq, 33-14
Jordan, 30-13
Kareem, 37-16
Magic, 32-14
Havlicek, 26-12
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russell 25-16
Bird, 22-17
Dr. J, 24-21

Others without 20+ closeout wins:

David Robinson, 16-6
Curry, 19-9
Mikan, 18-10
Drexler, 16-9
Isiah Thomas, 16-9
Kawhi 17-10
Dirk, 13-8
Hakeem, 16-10
Ewing, 17-12
Nash, 11-7
Oscar Robertson, 8-6
Wilt, 18-17
Moses Malone, 10-9
Kevin Garnett, 13-15
Barkley, 12-15
K. Malone, 19-24


why isnt the pippen on the list, he should have jordans stats plus some more wins
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Re: LeBron is by far the greatest close out game player in NBA history 

Post#185 » by SpaceCenter » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:43 am

Lebron is 38-11 now HAHAHAH
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Post#186 » by SpaceCenter » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:20 am

Patrick McCaw now has a better close out percentage than Lebron

7-2 > 38-11
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Post#187 » by nikster » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:16 am

SpaceCenter wrote:Lebron is 38-11 now HAHAHAH

Lebron still had a great game... Kind of a strange thread to bump. Was a fantastic game
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Post#188 » by NZB2323 » Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:44 am

Homer38 wrote:
twyzted wrote:
Homer38 wrote:

LBJ has been in the finals with the 29th defense,just 2 years ago or winning 66 games with Mo Williams with the second best players in 2009,but he can't win without talent around him :-?

Unless,you think that only winning titles mean winning.Jordan doesn't have a good record without the great Scottie Pippen.


Jordan living rent free :lol:
Guy: talks about Hakeem
You: what about pippen? Who saved Jordan? :lol:
Also who cares about close out game record if it only brings 3(4) titles over 17 years...
Give me 30-13 and 6 titles in 13 year.



Only 4 titles? :-?

C'mon man,it will be the same number of Shaq which is great if you consider that LBJ was not in a true contender for his first 7 years of his career.


He admitted he took the EASY way out teaming up with superstars where he would win not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7...

He could play with a 67 year old at point guard and his team is still so stacked that it would still be EASY.
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Post#189 » by SNPA » Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:15 am

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Post#190 » by Alize » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:00 am

rent free in your head
SpaceCenter wrote:Patrick McCaw now has a better close out percentage than Lebron

7-2 > 38-11


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Post#191 » by Mulhollanddrive » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:13 am

Never happened if 20 year olds can't remember it.
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Post#192 » by homecourtloss » Mon Oct 12, 2020 2:55 am

SpaceCenter wrote:Lebron is 38-11 now HAHAHAH


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine gloating after the guy scores 40 on 15/21 shooting only for teammates to mess it up.

Also, it’s 39-11 now, the best in NBA history.

LeBron, 39-11
Duncan, 35-14
Wade, 22-9
Shaq, 33-14
Jordan, 30-13
Kareem, 37-16
Magic, 32-14
Havlicek, 26-12
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russell 25-16
Bird, 22-17
Dr. J, 24-21

Others without 20+ closeout wins:

David Robinson, 16-6
Curry, 19-9
Mikan, 18-10
Drexler, 16-9
Isiah Thomas, 16-9
Kawhi 17-10
Dirk, 13-8
Hakeem, 16-10
Ewing, 17-12
Nash, 11-7
Oscar Robertson, 8-6
Wilt, 18-17
Moses Malone, 10-9
Kevin Garnett, 13-15
Barkley, 12-15
K. Malone, 19-24
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Post#193 » by SpaceCenter » Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:47 am

homecourtloss wrote:
SpaceCenter wrote:Lebron is 38-11 now HAHAHAH


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine gloating after the guy scores 40 on 15/21 shooting only for teammates to mess it up.

Also, it’s 39-11 now, the best in NBA history.

LeBron, 39-11
Duncan, 35-14
Wade, 22-9
Shaq, 33-14
Jordan, 30-13
Kareem, 37-16
Magic, 32-14
Havlicek, 26-12
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russell 25-16
Bird, 22-17
Dr. J, 24-21

Others without 20+ closeout wins:

David Robinson, 16-6
Curry, 19-9
Mikan, 18-10
Drexler, 16-9
Isiah Thomas, 16-9
Kawhi 17-10
Dirk, 13-8
Hakeem, 16-10
Ewing, 17-12
Nash, 11-7
Oscar Robertson, 8-6
Wilt, 18-17
Moses Malone, 10-9
Kevin Garnett, 13-15
Barkley, 12-15
K. Malone, 19-24


He's still got carried through all of that.
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Post#194 » by homecourtloss » Mon Oct 12, 2020 4:02 am

SpaceCenter wrote:
homecourtloss wrote:
SpaceCenter wrote:Lebron is 38-11 now HAHAHAH


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Imagine gloating after the guy scores 40 on 15/21 shooting only for teammates to mess it up.

Also, it’s 39-11 now, the best in NBA history.

LeBron, 39-11
Duncan, 35-14
Wade, 22-9
Shaq, 33-14
Jordan, 30-13
Kareem, 37-16
Magic, 32-14
Havlicek, 26-12
Durant, 21-10
Kobe, 33-16
Bill Russell 25-16
Bird, 22-17
Dr. J, 24-21

Others without 20+ closeout wins:

David Robinson, 16-6
Curry, 19-9
Mikan, 18-10
Drexler, 16-9
Isiah Thomas, 16-9
Kawhi 17-10
Dirk, 13-8
Hakeem, 16-10
Ewing, 17-12
Nash, 11-7
Oscar Robertson, 8-6
Wilt, 18-17
Moses Malone, 10-9
Kevin Garnett, 13-15
Barkley, 12-15
K. Malone, 19-24


He's still got carried through all of that.


:lol: :lol: :lol:
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Post#195 » by homecourtloss » Sat May 13, 2023 4:58 am

Bump
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.

lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Post#196 » by cursedsportsfan » Sat May 13, 2023 5:28 am

So funny how desperate some of you all are to discredit LeBron.
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Post#197 » by KyRo23 » Sat May 13, 2023 5:30 am

Was this ever even a question? Closeout games/elimination games... he's the GOAT. Playoff game on the line... him and MJ are it.
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Post#198 » by Baski » Sat May 13, 2023 5:30 am

So is that 42-13 now? Stellar
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Post#199 » by axeman23 » Sat May 13, 2023 5:36 am

Trey24 wrote:And he has done all of it with NO HELP! Really incredible.

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Post#200 » by Optms » Sat May 13, 2023 5:38 am

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