James harden says “this situation is crazy. Can’t be fixed” then leaves podium/John wall doesn’t agree with Harden

[Jkam31]

I ususally support disgruntled superstars who want to be traded but this is starting to smell like a Shawn Kemp type situation where a shortened season results in a guys conditioning and therefore his game falling off a cliff. Harden needs to pull himself together.

I don't see how anyone with premium assets trades it all for a fat disgruntled 31 year old dude at this point in time. I sure wouldn't risk my cushy GM job for a guy like that.

You know that the guy is at 26/5/11 right while shooting 58/36/87

[Marty_Budda]

You’re joking right?

Not for a second. Khris Middleton is 29 1/2 and if the Rockets are going to trade Harden it's going to be to get younger, not so that they'll have two players in their thirties on albatross contracts in a couple years while they get a 6-8th seed. Fred is 26 and would be a great shooting guard next to a pure point like Wall., they'll save money (which is really what Fertitta wants), and our pick would be a lot better than yours if we stayed mediocre until the deadline.

I like how you point out that Middleton is 29.5 years old, while Fred is 26 (even though he is turning 27 in a month). The age is negligible when there is such a huge gap in actual basketball ability and impact. Not to mention Middleton is the prototypical wing, while Fred is a midget, even for the guard position.

Honestly neither of them would excite Houston fans that much. So I’d rather take Fred at 21mil per year than Middleton at 35mil per year. And Fred is younger. It’s just a more tradable asset.

[nitocobola]

I ususally support disgruntled superstars who want to be traded but this is starting to smell like a Shawn Kemp type situation where a shortened season results in a guys conditioning and therefore his game falling off a cliff. Harden needs to pull himself together.

I don't see how anyone with premium assets trades it all for a fat disgruntled 31 year old dude at this point in time. I sure wouldn't risk my cushy GM job for a guy like that.

You know that the guy is at 26/5/11 right while shooting 58/36/87

He is a top 5 player, but let's not act like someone will trade a haul for him at this point, especially if you are not one of his prefered destinations

Kawhi was traded for derozan, i'm expecting something similar with harden. Houston will get an all-star to pair with wall and some first round picks

[lazybatman]

I ususally support disgruntled superstars who want to be traded but this is starting to smell like a Shawn Kemp type situation where a shortened season results in a guys conditioning and therefore his game falling off a cliff. Harden needs to pull himself together.

I don't see how anyone with premium assets trades it all for a fat disgruntled 31 year old dude at this point in time. I sure wouldn't risk my cushy GM job for a guy like that.

You know that the guy is at 26/5/11 right while shooting 58/36/87

48/36/87

And he was averaging around 30ppg before Lakers reminded him about the playoffs.

[John Murdoch]

The rockets aren't getting away with that bs story of keeping him for another year.

They are gonna trade him before the trade deadline. I'm pretty sure that at some point harden will fake an injury and sit on the bench.

nahh he wouldnt have played at all imo if that was the case . He will continue to sabatoge theyre defense till hes benched

[AussieCeltic]

Haha they are holding him hostage

By bending over to his every need over the last 9 seasons?

By being one of the only teams to focus solely on playing a style to suit one player?

By having him under a max contract with 2 seasons left and wanting him to try?

Come on.

That’s said as if he isn’t the sole reason for being the only team to make the playoffs for the last 9 years. Also his “needs” have only recently come out. Even breakups with players were under wraps.

He’s a great player, I don’t think you’ll find anyone who says otherwise. But the team has done everything he’s asked for. They played a style to solely benefit him and made every other player on the team sacrifice their play for him. A style that allowed him to be MVP.

The Rockets made trades to benefit him including the Paul + picks for Westbrook which not only was a complete disaster for the present, but also for the future. If he was to be apart of that future then I’m sure you can justify it. But now that he wants out? Hell no.

Fertitta clearly has his issues but James Harden is being a massive douche to his new head coach, his teammates and worst of all, the Houston fans.

If he wants out, I would not listen to his “preferred destinations” and would ship him out to the highest bidder. Whether those other teams not on the preferred destination list even make serious offers is yet to be seen, but if I were Fertitta I’d do everything in my power to send him somewhere like Sacramento.

[lazybatman]

There's a certain power forward that is also upset in Atlanta, just got to wait until Gallinari is tradeable on Feb 6th to be able to match Harden's contract.

Collins/Huerter/Gallinari/Snell/picks for Harden!

New Atlanta lineup.....Trae/Harden/Reddish/Hunter/Capela

Trae and Harden is an awful fit.

Yes please. Rondo's almost certainly gonna punch Harden in the face and get bought out before the deadline, to come back to the Lakeshow.

[Black Jack]

I ususally support disgruntled superstars who want to be traded but this is starting to smell like a Shawn Kemp type situation where a shortened season results in a guys conditioning and therefore his game falling off a cliff. Harden needs to pull himself together.

I don't see how anyone with premium assets trades it all for a fat disgruntled 31 year old dude at this point in time. I sure wouldn't risk my cushy GM job for a guy like that.

You know that the guy is at 26/5/11 right while shooting 58/36/87

Wait so harden scores a lot? I didn't realize that. Well gee then I bet the juicy trade offers of tier 1 prospects on rookie contracts plus picks are streaming into the Houston GM's WhatsApp feed aren't they

[Smash3]

RELEASE THE BEARD

[Lalouie]

i think players will force the nba to shut it down. little by little more players are just leaving the team to do their own thing. the structure is so broken the player feels they can do anything they want because there IS NO structure. playing with 8man rotations, seeing teammates move in and out of the lineup.

nba players are the most coddled in the states. they also happen to be the most powerful. more and more players are going to kyrie their time just cuz they feel like it.

[Jkam31]

I ususally support disgruntled superstars who want to be traded but this is starting to smell like a Shawn Kemp type situation where a shortened season results in a guys conditioning and therefore his game falling off a cliff. Harden needs to pull himself together.

I don't see how anyone with premium assets trades it all for a fat disgruntled 31 year old dude at this point in time. I sure wouldn't risk my cushy GM job for a guy like that.

You know that the guy is at 26/5/11 right while shooting 58/36/87

He is a top 5 player, but let's not act like someone will trade a haul for him at this point, especially if you are not one of his prefered destinations

Kawhi was traded for derozan, i'm expecting something similar with harden. Houston will get an all-star to pair with wall and some first round picks

The guy I quoted called him Kemp after the lockout which is pure hate and wrong simply pointing out he’s still performing whether or not there’s fat memes around going around

[lazybatman]

By bending over to his every need over the last 9 seasons?

By being one of the only teams to focus solely on playing a style to suit one player?

By having him under a max contract with 2 seasons left and wanting him to try?

Come on.

That’s said as if he isn’t the sole reason for being the only team to make the playoffs for the last 9 years. Also his “needs” have only recently come out. Even breakups with players were under wraps.

He’s a great player, I don’t think you’ll find anyone who says otherwise. But the team has done everything he’s asked for. They played a style to solely benefit him and made every other player on the team sacrifice their play for him. A style that allowed him to be MVP.

The Rockets made trades to benefit him including the Paul + picks for Westbrook which not only was a complete disaster for the present, but also for the future. If he was to be apart of that future then I’m sure you can justify it. But now that he wants out? Hell no.

Fertitta clearly has his issues but James Harden is being a massive douche to his new head coach, his teammates and worst of all, the Houston fans.

If he wants out, I would not listen to his “preferred destinations” and would ship him out to the highest bidder. Whether those other teams not on the preferred destination list even make serious offers is yet to be seen, but if I were Fertitta I’d do everything in my power to send him somewhere like Sacramento.

Sacramento are too good for him.. lol

Cavs / Hornets / Knicks ideal matches. Let him really know what a 'crazy situation that can't be fixed' really feels like.

[FlatearthZorro]

Trade news on Harden have completely died down since the beginning of the season so I'm not sure where he's gonna go

It's very possible that he spends this season in HOU. If I were the 6ers and wanted to win NOW, I'd probably trade Simmons. If I don't think I can win with Harden/Embiid as my main guys, I'd just keep Simmons.

[FlatearthZorro]

That’s said as if he isn’t the sole reason for being the only team to make the playoffs for the last 9 years. Also his “needs” have only recently come out. Even breakups with players were under wraps.

He’s a great player, I don’t think you’ll find anyone who says otherwise. But the team has done everything he’s asked for. They played a style to solely benefit him and made every other player on the team sacrifice their play for him. A style that allowed him to be MVP.

The Rockets made trades to benefit him including the Paul + picks for Westbrook which not only was a complete disaster for the present, but also for the future. If he was to be apart of that future then I’m sure you can justify it. But now that he wants out? Hell no.

Fertitta clearly has his issues but James Harden is being a massive douche to his new head coach, his teammates and worst of all, the Houston fans.

If he wants out, I would not listen to his “preferred destinations” and would ship him out to the highest bidder. Whether those other teams not on the preferred destination list even make serious offers is yet to be seen, but if I were Fertitta I’d do everything in my power to send him somewhere like Sacramento.

Sacramento are too good for him.. lol

Cavs / Hornets / Knicks ideal matches. Let him really know what a 'crazy situation that can't be fixed' really feels like.

If the Hornets keep Hayward, that's a formiddable team, btw. Hayward and Rozier have been pretty dang good, add Ball to that, too. Say they trade Ball, Rozier/Harden/Hayward is a decent ass team(Hayward's averaging ~23/5/5 on 50/40/93).

[Black Jack]

You know that the guy is at 26/5/11 right while shooting 58/36/87

He is a top 5 player, but let's not act like someone will trade a haul for him at this point, especially if you are not one of his prefered destinations

Kawhi was traded for derozan, i'm expecting something similar with harden. Houston will get an all-star to pair with wall and some first round picks

The guy I quoted called him Kemp after the lockout which is pure hate and wrong simply pointing out he’s still performing whether or not there’s fat memes around going around

Just for the record I think Harden's a great player and don't hate him. But this probably is not an ideal time for him to get fat, just saying.

[pingpongrac]

Not for a second. Khris Middleton is 29 1/2 and if the Rockets are going to trade Harden it's going to be to get younger, not so that they'll have two players in their thirties on albatross contracts in a couple years while they get a 6-8th seed. Fred is 26 and would be a great shooting guard next to a pure point like Wall., they'll save money (which is really what Fertitta wants), and our pick would be a lot better than yours if we stayed mediocre until the deadline.

I like how you point out that Middleton is 29.5 years old, while Fred is 26 (even though he is turning 27 in a month). The age is negligible when there is such a huge gap in actual basketball ability and impact. Not to mention Middleton is the prototypical wing, while Fred is a midget, even for the guard position.

Honestly neither of them would excite Houston fans that much. So I’d rather take Fred at 21mil per year than Middleton at 35mil per year. And Fred is younger. It’s just a more tradable asset.

Yeah, I highly doubt either is enticing to Houston. Definitely think Toronto's offer would be a bit more enticing though. FVV would be a perfect fit with Wall in the backcourt, as it takes the ball out of FVV's hands more often while making him more of a spot-up shooter (where he's at his best) and gives Wall more time with the ball in his hands. FVV would be the only contract on the book's past this season and
Toronto's pick (if it were to be this year's) is looking to be pretty good as of now, too.

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[Jason_Todd]

He wants to be traded to Burger King

[Roy The Natural]

I like how you point out that Middleton is 29.5 years old, while Fred is 26 (even though he is turning 27 in a month). The age is negligible when there is such a huge gap in actual basketball ability and impact. Not to mention Middleton is the prototypical wing, while Fred is a midget, even for the guard position.

Honestly neither of them would excite Houston fans that much. So I’d rather take Fred at 21mil per year than Middleton at 35mil per year. And Fred is younger. It’s just a more tradable asset.

Yeah, I highly doubt either is enticing to Houston. Definitely think Toronto's offer would be a bit more enticing though. FVV would be a perfect fit with Wall in the backcourt, as it takes the ball out of FVV's hands more often while making him more of a spot-up shooter (where he's at his best) and gives Wall more time with the ball in his hands. FVV would be the only contract on the book's past this season and
Toronto's pick (if it were to be this year's) is looking to be pretty good as of now, too.

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I feel like they'd be better off looking at getting CJ plus picks than FVV.

[picc]

This has been one of my favorite sports nights in recent memory. Its all just so great.

[jfs1000d]

He should say it. James doesn't fit the team and the team doesn't fit James. Philly should trade Ben for him now, otherwise I think Houston takes a lesser package just to spite Morey.

Philly been balling out lately they not trading Ben. Houston can come take Kyrie and some picks off our hands though

A lot of teams ball out but the goal is to win a title and Simmons ain't bringing that. You team Harden up with Embiid and they have a great shot

I don’t know. Simmons is terrific, an elite defender and can play 5 positions and is explosive and young.

Harden and embiid, two talented guys with motor issues .


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