[Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded

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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play until traded 

Post#181 » by vxmike » Sat Dec 4, 2021 8:45 am

jokeboy86 wrote:
My Main Man wrote:Just do Simmons for Kyrie and get it over with.


This only happens with KD's(and to some extent Harden) approval and I actually don't think it will happen this season because I think Durant and Harden both still think that they can win a title on their own without Irving playing. But if they lose early or don't win I could see them giving the go-ahead after the season is over to trade him. The bigger question is would the Nets/KD give Kyrie the heads up and let him know that they are actively trying to trade him in order to avoid the potential public blowback from him if you do it without his knowledge. Kyrie seems like the type who would be vocal if you betray him.

The Sixers would do this in a heartbeat though. A heartbeat.


Why wouldn’t KD and Harden want to do it now? Simmons is younger, healthier and actually a good basketball fit with them.
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Post#182 » by Sharcm1 » Sat Dec 4, 2021 12:41 pm

Irving for Lillard. ;)
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#183 » by OdomFan » Sat Dec 4, 2021 1:11 pm

I really miss the days when Kyrie was the fun rising star doing Uncle Drew Commercials. Now he's a nut talking about the earth being flat and now has this mess on his plate too. The Nets are probably wishing they could trade his youth over to Steve Nash right about now. Then the team can instantly improve and Kyrie can go off and enjoy retirement.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#184 » by Johnny Tomala » Mon Dec 6, 2021 9:28 pm

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Post#185 » by jbk1234 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 10:13 pm

Cavsfansince84 wrote:Sexton for Kyrie.


Hardest of passes.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#186 » by Cavsfansince84 » Mon Dec 6, 2021 10:18 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:Sexton for Kyrie.


Hardest of passes.


Ya, I'm not really sure I'd want him and I don't think he'd be ok with it either. Okoro really does need to be moved or replaced though. Kyrie would make the team better in the sort term I think but creates his own issues.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#187 » by Shock Defeat » Tue Dec 7, 2021 12:05 am

This might be GREAT news for the Nets. They can afford to move on from Kyrie now without hurting KD's feelings. I think they've never wanted Kyrie but they only got him because him and KD were a package deal.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#188 » by rand » Tue Dec 7, 2021 12:22 am

Johnny Tomala wrote:
Read on Twitter

Such clickbait. The tweet implies some info from Kyrie -- the article headline even says "Exclusive" but since there's no interview with Kyrie it's unclear what exactly is exclusive about it. There are five briefly quoted sources in the article:

(1) Deron Williams, who basically says nothing but he respects Kyrie and hopes it all works out

(2) Bryce Aiken (Seton Hall player) who says nothing pertinent

(3) Tim Thomas, who is quoted as saying nothing but “We spoke about doing some upcoming things with N.J. and Jersey basketball”

(4) An unnamed source who says “This is the happiest that I’ve seen Kyrie in years” and “Based on his last three or four years, I can see why he’d be apprehensive”

(5) Incoming NYC mayor Eric Adams who says “I think the NBA and Kyrie (are) going to come to a conclusion on this"

Worthless "sports journalism"
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play until traded 

Post#189 » by Kalela » Tue Dec 7, 2021 12:41 am

My Main Man wrote:Just do Simmons for Kyrie and get it over with.

That would make the Nets unbeatable. I think.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#190 » by iLLmatic860 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 12:43 am

Irving has adopted a 100-percent plant-based diet, so he could wait until a plant-based version of the vaccine has been completed and approved. One such vaccine is undergoing clinical trials with more than 30,000 people taking part, according to a report in August.


Lmaooo Scoop the woat Journalist but this is an entertaining article
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#191 » by jbk1234 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 12:44 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Cavsfansince84 wrote:Sexton for Kyrie.


Hardest of passes.


Ya, I'm not really sure I'd want him and I don't think he'd be ok with it either. Okoro really does need to be moved or replaced though. Kyrie would make the team better in the sort term I think but creates his own issues.


People need to chill with dumping on Okoro. The young man can flat out defend and we're having difficulty incorporating Lauri into the offense consistently. The latter situation will right itself or Lauri will get moved to the bench. As far Okoro, you don't draft a guy who you know is limited offensively and then write him off until he's had at least two full seasons. If you sub a high usage 2 guard into this lineup then it's going to come at the expense of touches for Mobley, Lauri, Allen, and maybe even Garland. The best thing you can do when you're seeing organic growth and outperforming expectations is not screw it up.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#192 » by Cavsfansince84 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:07 am

jbk1234 wrote:
People need to chill with dumping on Okoro. The young man can flat out defend and we're having difficulty incorporating Lauri into the offense consistently. The latter situation will right itself or Lauri will get moved to the bench. As far Okoro, you don't draft a guy who you know is limited offensively and then write him off until he's had at least two full seasons. If you sub a high usage 2 guard into this lineup then it's going to come at the expense of touches for Mobley, Lauri, Allen, and maybe even Garland. The best thing you can do when you're seeing organic growth and outperforming expectations is not screw it up.


I'm not saying sub a high usage 2 guard into the lineup. I'm saying replace Okoro with someone who adds something to the offense. Okoro needs to show something if he wants to be that guy. The offensive lulls are what kills this team right now and you can't start a 2 guard who is a negative on offense in this league.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#193 » by JN61 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:12 am

Johnny Tomala wrote:
Read on Twitter


He is antivaxxer. He chose his bed to shat into.
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Post#194 » by JN61 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:15 am

iLLmatic860 wrote:Irving has adopted a 100-percent plant-based diet, so he could wait until a plant-based version of the vaccine has been completed and approved. One such vaccine is undergoing clinical trials with more than 30,000 people taking part, according to a report in August.


Lmaooo Scoop the woat Journalist but this is anentertaining article

So he has been anti vaxx nutjob all this time and now he would suddenly eat some vaccine in different form? Sure...
Pennebaker wrote:And Bird did it while being a defensive liability. But he also made All-Defensive teams, which was another controversial issue regarding Bird and votes.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#195 » by CobraCommander » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:19 am

infinite11285 wrote:Negotiations for the next CBA will be very, very interesting.

It's also time to question whether basketball is a priority for Kyrie.

Kyrie and Simmons and Rich Paul costing players money by brinks truck load....
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play until traded 

Post#196 » by CobraCommander » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:22 am

Kalela wrote:
My Main Man wrote:Just do Simmons for Kyrie and get it over with.

That would make the Nets unbeatable. I think.

Until someone hurts Simmons feelings.

KDs burner account could break Simmons for good
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#197 » by HeartBreakKid » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:25 am

If Kyrie is traded I would love to see some type of betting odds on how long he lasts before he burns the bridge for his new club.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#198 » by jbk1234 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:46 am

Cavsfansince84 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
People need to chill with dumping on Okoro. The young man can flat out defend and we're having difficulty incorporating Lauri into the offense consistently. The latter situation will right itself or Lauri will get moved to the bench. As far Okoro, you don't draft a guy who you know is limited offensively and then write him off until he's had at least two full seasons. If you sub a high usage 2 guard into this lineup then it's going to come at the expense of touches for Mobley, Lauri, Allen, and maybe even Garland. The best thing you can do when you're seeing organic growth and outperforming expectations is not screw it up.


I'm not saying sub a high usage 2 guard into the lineup. I'm saying replace Okoro with someone who adds something to the offense. Okoro needs to show something if he wants to be that guy. The offensive lulls are what kills this team right now and you can't start a 2 guard who is a negative on offense in this league.


I disagree. The Cavs are still a young and developing team. That includes Mobley, Lauri, and Garland as well as Okoro. Until Lauri shows he can contribute more consistently offensively, it's not clear that he should be a long term starter. If you end up getting a 3 in a TJ Warren mold, you'll be happy to have Okoro.

Moreover, the Cavs need to make a decision on Sexton this summer and I don't want to make that decision because fans are being impatient with Okoro 20 games into his second season. I'm not seeing the urgency or the need to rush the development this season.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#199 » by Cavsfansince84 » Tue Dec 7, 2021 1:53 am

jbk1234 wrote:
I disagree. The Cavs are still a young and developing team. That includes Mobley, Lauri, and Garland as well as Okoro. Until Lauri shows he can contribute more consistently offensively, it's not clear that he should be a long term starter. If you end up getting a 3 in a TJ Warren mold, you'll be happy to have Okoro.

Moreover, the Cavs need to make a decision on Sexton this summer and I don't want to make that decision because fans are being impatient with Okoro 20 games into his second season. I'm not seeing the urgency or the need to rush the development this season.


I agree on Lauri as well. His spot shouldn't be guaranteed either. Granted we are a young team and can sort of wait for guys to develop but sometimes the writings on the wall and you have to move on or just limit a guy to 15-20 mpg. Wanting Okoro to be replaced doesn't mean signing Sexton to a big contract either. That's the difference between being a smart f/o and a stupid one. A smart one should be able to do both. That's why some teams build contenders while others take young cores and end up on a treadmill. Knowing when to add crafty veterans when to let go of guys who aren't going to help you create a contending team.
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Re: [Shams]Kyrie not close to being vaccinated, won’t play unless traded 

Post#200 » by LAL1947 » Wed Dec 8, 2021 8:28 am

If the Lakers trade for Kyrie, Lebron could give him a fake vaccination card hook up. :tooth

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