Wizards Broadcasters, Surely punishment incoming

[JonFromVA]

Well said. The best defense for this is "he didn't do his job".

There's 2 scenarios here. Either he decided to risk his job for a joke, knowing the history of KPJ father or he made a mistake. If this announcer doesn't have a history of this type of behavior, why wouldn't you give him the benefit of the doubt?

Well said.

Giving people the benefit of the doubt in today's social-media focused society is now a thing of the past.

People are instantly malicious and convicted criminals, and any kind of defense they may want is obviously denied and put to rest.

To be fair, there are at least 3 possible responses when someone makes a thread like this:

1) Agree with the obvious conclusion from the provided quotes and demand justice/etc;
2) Understand not all the details are out and hold back with a response;
3) Knowing the world is polluted with click-bait, bother to do a little research/speculation to question the topic.

We're always going to see a lot more #1 than #3, and well ... we won't see #2 at all.

[Woodsanity]

Wiz fan here. Consor is one of my favorite analysts in all of pro ball. He's also not a shock jock or the type to say wild things or phrases. He also references past players or pro fathers of nba kids. Kevin Porter is a known name in our area. Trust me, I know bs when I see it but I have 100 percent no doubt that he thought his dad was the NBA player. He's a great guy and analysts

... but really bad at his job for not doing his homework.

He's paid very well to avoid those types of mistakes. Even if the player's actual dad wasn't a murderer... it would be embarrassing that the announcer made this level of mistake. The coincidental poor choice of words is simply shedding light on the announcer's ineptitude and making the situation worse.

But he should still be mocked for being uninformed and bad at his job.

Hard disagree that he is a bad announcer for not knowing this. Maybe if Kevin porter played on the Wizards sure but he plays on the Rockets. How many posters here know about Kevin Porter Jr's father being a murderer?

The announcer made an assumption that Kevin Porter JR was the son of another Kevin Porter who played on the Wizards. Just unfortunate for him. Kevin Porter isnt exactly a common name.

[wojoaderge]

Lol, that means what? He made a foolish but honest mistake, owned up to it, and apologized for it. What else do you want? I mean... 1 mistake that you know of in 22 years makes him incompetent... really?

In that case, he was really incompetent, and he deserves the controversy

Lol, did you read the end of my post?

Kevin Porter Jr. had played the Wizards 5 times before tonight. It never occurred to him beforehand to find out if they were really father and son (a pretty dumb assumption given the age difference)? In this particular instance, he was very unprofessional.

[Duffman100]

Wiz fan here. Consor is one of my favorite analysts in all of pro ball. He's also not a shock jock or the type to say wild things or phrases. He also references past players or pro fathers of nba kids. Kevin Porter is a known name in our area. Trust me, I know bs when I see it but I have 100 percent no doubt that he thought his dad was the NBA player. He's a great guy and analysts

... but really bad at his job for not doing his homework.

He's paid very well to avoid those types of mistakes. Even if the player's actual dad wasn't a murderer... it would be embarrassing that the announcer made this level of mistake. The coincidental poor choice of words is simply shedding light on the announcer's ineptitude and making the situation worse.

But he should still be mocked for being uninformed and bad at his job.

Hard disagree that he is a bad announcer for not knowing this. Maybe if Kevin porter played on the Wizards sure but he plays on the Rockets. How many posters here know about Kevin Porter Jr's father being a murderer?

The announcer made an assumption that Kevin Porter JR was the son of another Kevin Porter who played on the Wizards. Just unfortunate for him. Kevin Porter isnt exactly a common name.

I mean... if you're a long time broadcast going on air, how hard is it to look up whether the two are related?

On a broader note, it drives me crazy with these 'analysts', Raptor ones included. Where they can't possibly do a modicum of research before they go on-air. Basketball is your job, you should be reading about the opposing team as much as possible.

[HomoSapien]

Hearing the audio… it just doesn’t sound like an insult or joke. I tend to believe that he’s telling the truth about thinking he’s related to the former Bullet’s great.

[xAIRNESSx]

Okay....?

What point were you trying to make?

That counter to the sensitive language movement (which I do agree exists) is a movement of "I can joke about anything and if people are offended they're sensitive". That any trauma is up for grabs for joke, even if it wasn't experienced by the one making the joke.

Thus my Family Guy reference and how they're often adept ability at comedy about serious and traumatic events sometimes just devolves into 'offensive for the sake of being offensive comedy' which is actually rather stupid.

So for instance, if this commentator was making a joke about the shooting involving his father (I don't think he was, I buy his apology). That it was too far and not a joke for that commentator to make.

I'm about using laughter to get through tough times and the trauma in my life. But I'm allowed and my close friends are allowed to make those jokes. Daniel Sloss has a good bit on it. I'd expect my friends to joke about my trauma to help me through it.

Not just any random dickwad that thinks the trauma is now joke material.

I meant your second response about more people complaining about cancel culture than being cancelled. You seemed to want to downplay cancel culture, which is fine, but I didn't get why you were confused by my response that it still exists and people do worry about it, especially in the centre and left.

[Duffman100]

What point were you trying to make?

That counter to the sensitive language movement (which I do agree exists) is a movement of "I can joke about anything and if people are offended they're sensitive". That any trauma is up for grabs for joke, even if it wasn't experienced by the one making the joke.

Thus my Family Guy reference and how they're often adept ability at comedy about serious and traumatic events sometimes just devolves into 'offensive for the sake of being offensive comedy' which is actually rather stupid.

So for instance, if this commentator was making a joke about the shooting involving his father (I don't think he was, I buy his apology). That it was too far and not a joke for that commentator to make.

I'm about using laughter to get through tough times and the trauma in my life. But I'm allowed and my close friends are allowed to make those jokes. Daniel Sloss has a good bit on it. I'd expect my friends to joke about my trauma to help me through it.

Not just any random dickwad that thinks the trauma is now joke material.

I meant your second response about more people complaining about cancel culture than being cancelled. You seemed to want to downplay cancel culture, which is fine, but I didn't get why you were confused by my response that it still exists and people do worry about it, especially in the centre and left.

Because at no point did I say it didn't exist.

Just that at this point, I hear more about people complaining about people being cancelled than people being cancelled. It's become the rallying cry of the 'I don't like that I can't say what I want, whenever I want and not have to worry about consequences" camp.

[wojoaderge]

Hearing the audio… it just doesn’t sound like an insult or joke. I tend to believe that he’s telling the truth about thinking he’s related to the former Bullet’s great.

Can you imagine Stacey King making that kind of mistake? Not a good reflection on his preparedness.

[heatwillbeback]

As expected, LeBron’s tweet has made this national news. He needs to be selective with his platform imo. This incident was clearly an honest mistake and didn’t need to be blown up like this.

[Tracymcgoaty]

Honestly what happened to having patience and waiting before deciding to call for someones head? It was a misunderstanding. Dumb mistake. Nothing more than that move the **** on.

[HomoSapien]

Hearing the audio… it just doesn’t sound like an insult or joke. I tend to believe that he’s telling the truth about thinking he’s related to the former Bullet’s great.

Can you imagine Stacey King making that kind of mistake? Not a good reflection on his preparedness.

Oh definitely agree there. You’d think he’d have done some research into that before the game. Poor reflection either way.

[Duffman100]

Honestly what happened to having patience and waiting before deciding to call for someones head? It was a misunderstanding. Dumb mistake. Nothing more than that move the **** on.

I definitely agree with this.

Similar to the problem with News, people on Social Media want to be the 'first to things'. I was FIRST to start calling for his head...

If you miss the 'boat' you lose cred. So sad.

[lakerz12]

That counter to the sensitive language movement (which I do agree exists) is a movement of "I can joke about anything and if people are offended they're sensitive". That any trauma is up for grabs for joke, even if it wasn't experienced by the one making the joke.

Thus my Family Guy reference and how they're often adept ability at comedy about serious and traumatic events sometimes just devolves into 'offensive for the sake of being offensive comedy' which is actually rather stupid.

So for instance, if this commentator was making a joke about the shooting involving his father (I don't think he was, I buy his apology). That it was too far and not a joke for that commentator to make.

I'm about using laughter to get through tough times and the trauma in my life. But I'm allowed and my close friends are allowed to make those jokes. Daniel Sloss has a good bit on it. I'd expect my friends to joke about my trauma to help me through it.

Not just any random dickwad that thinks the trauma is now joke material.

I meant your second response about more people complaining about cancel culture than being cancelled. You seemed to want to downplay cancel culture, which is fine, but I didn't get why you were confused by my response that it still exists and people do worry about it, especially in the centre and left.

Because at no point did I say it didn't exist.

Just that at this point, I hear more about people complaining about people being cancelled than people being cancelled. It's become the rallying cry of the 'I don't like that I can't say what I want, whenever I want and not have to worry about consequences" camp.

I think you're taking "cancellation" too literally at this point.

It's not just about total cancellation, which is pretty much impossible. Although we do see people like LeBron calling for the guy to be kicked out of the NBA, and I'm sure many people agree with him. Just look at the comments on his Tweet.

But really it's about a culture of immediately jumping to conclusions without having the whole context. And judging someone really harshly, as if you really sit on a thrown of perfection.

It's an attitude that if someone says something remotely offensive to my personal beliefs, I have the right to completely judge and dismiss them without really a second thought.

So yes, you can say this announcer hasn't been cancelled. But he's had his name and reputation dragged through the mud already and he has been judged as being a scum bag. Before he had the chance to explain himself. Is that not something to complain about?

[GSWFan1994]

To be fair, there are at least 3 possible responses when someone makes a thread like this:

1) Agree with the obvious conclusion from the provided quotes and demand justice/etc;
2) Understand not all the details are out and hold back with a response;
3) Knowing the world is polluted with click-bait, bother to do a little research/speculation to question the topic.

We're always going to see a lot more #1 than #3, and well ... we won't see #2 at all.

Well said, Jon.

Unfortunately, in the instant gratification society we are a part of nowadays... that's the case.

Everybody is an "expert" at something.

Greetings from Brazil to VA.

[Jazz9]

Honestly what happened to having patience and waiting before deciding to call for someones head? It was a misunderstanding. Dumb mistake. Nothing more than that move the **** on.

I definitely agree with this.

Similar to the problem with News, people on Social Media want to be the 'first to things'. I was FIRST to start calling for his head...

If you miss the 'boat' you lose cred. So sad.

Read on Twitter

[Woodsanity]

... but really bad at his job for not doing his homework.

He's paid very well to avoid those types of mistakes. Even if the player's actual dad wasn't a murderer... it would be embarrassing that the announcer made this level of mistake. The coincidental poor choice of words is simply shedding light on the announcer's ineptitude and making the situation worse.

But he should still be mocked for being uninformed and bad at his job.

Hard disagree that he is a bad announcer for not knowing this. Maybe if Kevin porter played on the Wizards sure but he plays on the Rockets. How many posters here know about Kevin Porter Jr's father being a murderer?

The announcer made an assumption that Kevin Porter JR was the son of another Kevin Porter who played on the Wizards. Just unfortunate for him. Kevin Porter isnt exactly a common name.

I mean... if you're a long time broadcast going on air, how hard is it to look up whether the two are related?

On a broader note, it drives me crazy with these 'analysts', Raptor ones included. Where they can't possibly do a modicum of research before they go on-air. Basketball is your job, you should be reading about the opposing team as much as possible.

Honestly he should have done his research to see if kevin porter jr was actually his son first but it was definitely a spur of the moment thing.

And I am pretty confident that most announcers would make similar assumptions in his shoes. Most announcers are pretty clueless. I would say at least 75% of announcers in the nba know very little about other players on other teams....

[Roger Murdock]

This is very clearly a mix up since someone with his same names played professional ball for the same club

Some people have blood lust though

[Nuntius]

We all knew it was coming and sure enough, it came right away with the Lebron tweet. These things are so predictable.

Luckily, I don't venture into Twitter (for obvious reasons) but I can only assume they're trying to cancel this guy there also

Did it come, though? Again, did anyone here try to "cancel" the announcer in question? Sure, LeBron put his foot in his mouth but LeBron doesn't post here. Same goes for Twitter. I don't venture into Twitter often either but even if people on Twitter are trying to "cancel" this guy (which, by the way, you only assume that's happening, you haven't gone there as you admitted) that has nothing to do with RealGM. Did anyone on RealGM try to "cancel" this announcer? Yes or no? If no then why are you whining about it on here?

[Chinook]

Feels like the appropriate sequence of events happened. He made a mistake, got called out for it, realized what he did and why it was bad and apologized. He gets paid to not make mistakes and to not make his team look bad. He could face some discipline here, but it shouldn't end his career or anything.

It's basically like unknowingly making a your momma joke to a person who lost their mother. People who heard and know about the person's mother can certainly say "That's messed up bro. Don't you know his momma's dead?" without it being a witch trial.

[Duffman100]

I meant your second response about more people complaining about cancel culture than being cancelled. You seemed to want to downplay cancel culture, which is fine, but I didn't get why you were confused by my response that it still exists and people do worry about it, especially in the centre and left.

Because at no point did I say it didn't exist.

Just that at this point, I hear more about people complaining about people being cancelled than people being cancelled. It's become the rallying cry of the 'I don't like that I can't say what I want, whenever I want and not have to worry about consequences" camp.

I think you're taking "cancellation" too literally at this point.

It's not just about total cancellation, which is pretty much impossible. Although we do see people like LeBron calling for the guy to be kicked out of the NBA, and I'm sure many people agree with him. Just look at the comments on his Tweet.

But really it's about a culture of immediately jumping to conclusions without having the whole context. And judging someone really harshly, as if you really sit on a thrown of perfection.

It's an attitude that if someone says something remotely offensive to my personal beliefs, I have the right to completely judge and dismiss them without really a second thought.

So yes, you can say this announcer hasn't been cancelled. But he's had his name and reputation dragged through the mud already and he has been judged as being a scum bag. Before he had the chance to explain himself. Is that not something to complain about?

So we also have an issue of crying wolf. There's a lot of blame to go around here and a ton of it lays at the feet of social media being ****.