Shams: Kyrie Irving opting in

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well ya. The Nets kinda want it both ways here. This is the superstar experience; KD chose the Nets when he coudlve chosen any team in the league and that comes with expectations. If youre not willing to submit to KD's demands, then dont sign him.

Kyrie is unpredictable and was a disaster on 2 other teams. This is the bed they laid for themselves. Just re-sign Kyrie to run his contract as long as KD's and then be done with both of them.

If they wanted to be done with them they could simply keep the hard line with Kyrie and let KD demand his trade. That's clearly not what they want though.

[bfchs123]

What's KD's leverage? He's turning 34 in a few months and signed for the next 4 years...he's really going to sit out his last good years Simmons' style?

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well ya. The Nets kinda want it both ways here. This is the superstar experience; KD chose the Nets when he coudlve chosen any team in the league and that comes with expectations. If youre not willing to submit to KD's demands, then dont sign him.

Kyrie is unpredictable and was a disaster on 2 other teams. This is the bed they laid for themselves. Just re-sign Kyrie to run his contract as long as KD's and then be done with both of them.

If they wanted to be done with them they could simply keep the hard line with Kyrie and let KD demand his trade. That's clearly not what they want though.

Like i said, Nets FO want it both ways.

[darkse1d]

It’s sad really. KD left a guy (WB) cause he couldn’t win with him to a guy (curry) who he actually won with and was the perfect pairing and to then choose a guy (Kyrie) that don’t give a **** about anything else but himself. This is the worst case scenario for KD.

They’re not gonna win with Kyrie max contract and on top of that expect him to miss 20+ games so KD will have to play 1/4 season without him all while carrying the team on his back. Those knees aren’t gonna hold for much longer. KD might as well demand a trade now regardless of what Kyrie does.

If I were the nets, I would say good riddance and start stockpiling picks. Cause the Kd/Kyrie experiment is a failure and they’re both on the wrong side of 30 and are injury prone.

[SelfishPlayer]

It’s sad really. KD left a guy (WB) cause he couldn’t win with him to a guy (curry) who he actually won with and was the perfect pairing and to then choose a guy (Kyrie) that don’t give a **** about anything else but himself. This is the worst case scenario for KD.

They’re not gonna win with Kyrie max contract and on top of that expect him to miss 20+ games so KD will have to play 1/4 season without him all while carrying the team on his back. Those knees aren’t gonna hold for much longer. KD might as well demand a trade now regardless of what Kyrie does.

If I were the nets, I would say good riddance and start stockpiling picks. Cause the Kd/Kyrie experiment is a failure and they’re both on the wrong side of 30 and are injury prone.

The Nets ruined their own season by keeping Kyrie out. The NBA needs to say good riddance to the Brooklyn Nets franchise for doing that.

[Purch]

It’s sad really. KD left a guy (WB) cause he couldn’t win with him to a guy (curry) who he actually won with and was the perfect pairing and to then choose a guy (Kyrie) that don’t give a **** about anything else but himself. This is the worst case scenario for KD.

They’re not gonna win with Kyrie max contract and on top of that expect him to miss 20+ games so KD will have to play 1/4 season without him all while carrying the team on his back. Those knees aren’t gonna hold for much longer. KD might as well demand a trade now regardless of what Kyrie does.

If I were the nets, I would say good riddance and start stockpiling picks. Cause the Kd/Kyrie experiment is a failure and they’re both on the wrong side of 30 and are injury prone.

The Nets ruined their own season by keeping Kyrie out. The NBA needs to say good riddance to the Brooklyn Nets franchise for doing that.

The nets were actually better before Kyrie came back. He had zero positive impact on winning.

In fact I think what actually occurred compelty validated what everyone was saying at the start of the year, that you can't have a part time player, it's not conducive to a winning environment.

[mtcan]

well ya. The Nets kinda want it both ways here. This is the superstar experience; KD chose the Nets when he coudlve chosen any team in the league and that comes with expectations. If youre not willing to submit to KD's demands, then dont sign him.

Kyrie is unpredictable and was a disaster on 2 other teams. This is the bed they laid for themselves. Just re-sign Kyrie to run his contract as long as KD's and then be done with both of them.

If they wanted to be done with them they could simply keep the hard line with Kyrie and let KD demand his trade. That's clearly not what they want though.

Like i said, Nets FO want it both ways.

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

[Synciere]

If they wanted to be done with them they could simply keep the hard line with Kyrie and let KD demand his trade. That's clearly not what they want though.

Like i said, Nets FO want it both ways.

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

Kyrie isn't bluffing. Most thought he'd come crawling back after being suspended for not getting the vaccine. Guy gave up $15 million on that. Say what you want about him, he's resolute.

[SelfishPlayer]

It’s sad really. KD left a guy (WB) cause he couldn’t win with him to a guy (curry) who he actually won with and was the perfect pairing and to then choose a guy (Kyrie) that don’t give a **** about anything else but himself. This is the worst case scenario for KD.

They’re not gonna win with Kyrie max contract and on top of that expect him to miss 20+ games so KD will have to play 1/4 season without him all while carrying the team on his back. Those knees aren’t gonna hold for much longer. KD might as well demand a trade now regardless of what Kyrie does.

If I were the nets, I would say good riddance and start stockpiling picks. Cause the Kd/Kyrie experiment is a failure and they’re both on the wrong side of 30 and are injury prone.

The Nets ruined their own season by keeping Kyrie out. The NBA needs to say good riddance to the Brooklyn Nets franchise for doing that.

The nets were actually better before Kyrie came back. He had zero positive impact on winning.

In fact I think what actually occurred compelty validated what everyone was saying at the start of the year, that you can't have a part time player, it's not conducive to a winning environment.

Kyrie was mismanaged, the Nets should have never kept him away.

[Johnny Bball]

I knew Kd was a cupcake but boy he is weak no control whtsoever he should threaten them with a trade for disrespecting Kyrie.

So being honourable is being weak?

[mademan]

If they wanted to be done with them they could simply keep the hard line with Kyrie and let KD demand his trade. That's clearly not what they want though.

Like i said, Nets FO want it both ways.

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

Until Kyrie threatens to opt in and have surgery like he did with Cleveland. This isnt the dude to play chicken with. He just gave up half his salary last year to not take a vaccine. You can question a lot of things with Kyrie, i wouldnt question his resolve.

And ya, the Nets are gonna have to pick a lane (even tho they already have, imo). Kyrie hasnt changed over the last 5 years. He's as unpredictable as he was in Cleveland and Boston. This is who he is and he's never hid it or lied about it and the Nets went ahead regardless. Theyve given up everything for the next couple of years....why stop now? You got a 3-4 year window...pay Kyrie what he wants over those 3-4 years. I think theyve past the point of no return here

[mtcan]

Like i said, Nets FO want it both ways.

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

Kyrie isn't bluffing. Most thought he'd come crawling back after being suspended for not getting the vaccine. Guy gave up $15 million on that. Say what you want about him, he's resolute.

Let him commit career suicide then.

He is a distraction...plain and simple.

He is a phenomenal scorer but that is all he is...and that is only when he isn't injured/sitting out because of his own stupid cause/taking unannounced leave from the team for whatever stupid reasons...in other words he isn't any good to any team when he isn't physically and mentally available to the team...which is most of the time.

He is quickly becoming a negative asset a la Demarcus Cousins and eventually no team will touch him despite how great a scorer he is.

[mtcan]

Like i said, Nets FO want it both ways.

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

Until Kyrie threatens to opt in and have surgery like he did with Cleveland. This isnt the dude to play chicken with. He just gave up half his salary last year to not take a vaccine. You can question a lot of things with Kyrie, i wouldnt question his resolve.

And ya, the Nets are gonna have to pick a lane (even tho they already have, imo). Kyrie hasnt changed over the last 5 years. He's as unpredictable as he was in Cleveland and Boston. This is who he is and he's never hid it or lied about it and the Nets went ahead regardless. Theyve given up everything for the next couple of years....why stop now? You got a 3-4 year window...pay Kyrie what he wants over those 3-4 years. I think theyve past the point of no return here

I don't question his resolve. I question his sanity.

If he decides to sit out after "surgery"...great. You can proceed knowing he isn't around to be a distraction. Addition by subtraction.

[mademan]

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

Until Kyrie threatens to opt in and have surgery like he did with Cleveland. This isnt the dude to play chicken with. He just gave up half his salary last year to not take a vaccine. You can question a lot of things with Kyrie, i wouldnt question his resolve.

And ya, the Nets are gonna have to pick a lane (even tho they already have, imo). Kyrie hasnt changed over the last 5 years. He's as unpredictable as he was in Cleveland and Boston. This is who he is and he's never hid it or lied about it and the Nets went ahead regardless. Theyve given up everything for the next couple of years....why stop now? You got a 3-4 year window...pay Kyrie what he wants over those 3-4 years. I think theyve past the point of no return here

I don't question his resolve. I question his sanity.

If he decides to sit out after "surgery"...great. You can proceed knowing he isn't around to be a distraction. Addition by subtraction.

ya, until KD realizes that the FO has gone to war with Kyrie and he's paying the brunt of it being on a team missing a max salary guy. Let's not forget that KD-Kyrie was a package deal. Not a pick and chose for the Nets FO

[mtcan]

Until Kyrie threatens to opt in and have surgery like he did with Cleveland. This isnt the dude to play chicken with. He just gave up half his salary last year to not take a vaccine. You can question a lot of things with Kyrie, i wouldnt question his resolve.

And ya, the Nets are gonna have to pick a lane (even tho they already have, imo). Kyrie hasnt changed over the last 5 years. He's as unpredictable as he was in Cleveland and Boston. This is who he is and he's never hid it or lied about it and the Nets went ahead regardless. Theyve given up everything for the next couple of years....why stop now? You got a 3-4 year window...pay Kyrie what he wants over those 3-4 years. I think theyve past the point of no return here

I don't question his resolve. I question his sanity.

If he decides to sit out after "surgery"...great. You can proceed knowing he isn't around to be a distraction. Addition by subtraction.

ya, until KD realizes that the FO has gone to war with Kyrie and he's paying the brunt of it being on a team missing a max salary guy. Let's not forget that KD-Kyrie was a package deal. Not a pick and chose for the Nets FO

The Nets need a reset. The Kyrie/KD experiment is a failure.

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[Synciere]

Call Kyrie's bluff.

Then reason with KD. If he requests a trade...do it and take the significant haul you would get from trading a guy like KD and build a team the right way. Super teams are whack.

Kyrie can always opt out and take the mid level exception. I'm sick of this guy.

Kyrie isn't bluffing. Most thought he'd come crawling back after being suspended for not getting the vaccine. Guy gave up $15 million on that. Say what you want about him, he's resolute.

Let him commit career suicide then.

He is a distraction...plain and simple.

He is a phenomenal scorer but that is all he is...and that is only when he isn't injured/sitting out because of his own stupid cause/taking unannounced leave from the team for whatever stupid reasons...in other words he isn't any good to any team when he isn't physically and mentally available to the team...which is most of the time.

He is quickly becoming a negative asset a la Demarcus Cousins and eventually no team will touch him despite how great a scorer he is.

That's what everyone said when he sat out last year, that he was ruining his career. Guess what? It didn't happen. They don't make enough Kyries that he's available and no one takes him. It seems that's what a lot of fans would like to see, but that's just not the case. Simply and plainly, his level of distraction doesn't trump his relationship with KD or his talent level. He's nowhere near a negative asset. Quite frankly, I think the Nets really want him too; they just want to see him sweat in case something else happens, it'll make him maybe, just maybe, a little more likely to comply. This is all theatre.

[TinmanZBoy]

It’s sad really. KD left a guy (WB) cause he couldn’t win with him to a guy (curry) who he actually won with and was the perfect pairing and to then choose a guy (Kyrie) that don’t give a **** about anything else but himself. This is the worst case scenario for KD.

They’re not gonna win with Kyrie max contract and on top of that expect him to miss 20+ games so KD will have to play 1/4 season without him all while carrying the team on his back. Those knees aren’t gonna hold for much longer. KD might as well demand a trade now regardless of what Kyrie does.

If I were the nets, I would say good riddance and start stockpiling picks. Cause the Kd/Kyrie experiment is a failure and they’re both on the wrong side of 30 and are injury prone.

KD needs to change the beta mindset, I am the boss, you got to want to play with me not the other way around

[mtcan]

Kyrie isn't bluffing. Most thought he'd come crawling back after being suspended for not getting the vaccine. Guy gave up $15 million on that. Say what you want about him, he's resolute.

Let him commit career suicide then.

He is a distraction...plain and simple.

He is a phenomenal scorer but that is all he is...and that is only when he isn't injured/sitting out because of his own stupid cause/taking unannounced leave from the team for whatever stupid reasons...in other words he isn't any good to any team when he isn't physically and mentally available to the team...which is most of the time.

He is quickly becoming a negative asset a la Demarcus Cousins and eventually no team will touch him despite how great a scorer he is.

That's what everyone said when he sat out last year, that he was ruining his career. Guess what? It didn't happen. They don't make enough Kyries that he's available and no one takes him. It seems that's what a lot of fans would like to see, but that's just not the case. Simply and plainly, his level of distraction doesn't trump his relationship with KD or his talent level. He's nowhere near a negative asset. Quite frankly, I think the Nets really want him too; they just want to see him sweat in case something else happens, it'll make him maybe, just maybe, a little more likely to comply. This is all theatre.

Eventually he will be labeled as a toxic asset. This is approaching Stephon Marbury levels of crazy.

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