The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls

[zimpy27]

LOL.

So I give you what you were too lazy to look up and you laugh?

What's wrong with you? Thought you were interested in actual discussion, didn't realize I was dealing with a trolling child here.

Guy 1: "Hey, can you share anything to support your take about Ham and the Lakers?"

Guy 2: "Yeah, here's some disingenuous, out-of-context stats without any substance from four other coaches across three different teams."

Guy 1: "LOL."

Guy 2: "Why you trolling child?"

I think you are being disingenuous and I think dishonest.

But if you genuinely don't understand what I'm saying or why I sent those links/stats, then I take it back.

Perhaps it's not obvious to you like it is to other posters but I don't know how to frame it out so it's easier to comprehend.

[levon]

So I give you what you were too lazy to look up and you laugh?

What's wrong with you? Thought you were interested in actual discussion, didn't realize I was dealing with a trolling child here.

Guy 1: "Hey, can you share anything to support your take about Ham and the Lakers?"

Guy 2: "Yeah, here's some disingenuous, out-of-context stats without any substance from four other coaches across three different teams."

Guy 1: "LOL."

Guy 2: "Why you trolling child?"

I think you are being disingenuous and I think dishonest.

But if you don't understand what I'm saying or why I laid out what I did with those coaches then I take it back.

Perhaps it's not obvious to you like it is to other posters but I don't know how to frame it out so it's easier to comprehend.

You're the latest genuine poster to be dicked around by this person, and unfortunately probably not the last.

Last time I called them out on their act they started to feign misunderstanding and gaslighting me. It's rinse and repeat. Gets a kick out of being an above-average effort and intelligence troll I guess.

[zimpy27]

Guy 1: "Hey, can you share anything to support your take about Ham and the Lakers?"

Guy 2: "Yeah, here's some disingenuous, out-of-context stats without any substance from four other coaches across three different teams."

Guy 1: "LOL."

Guy 2: "Why you trolling child?"

I think you are being disingenuous and I think dishonest.

But if you don't understand what I'm saying or why I laid out what I did with those coaches then I take it back.

Perhaps it's not obvious to you like it is to other posters but I don't know how to frame it out so it's easier to comprehend.

You're the latest genuine poster to be dicked around by this person, and unfortunately probably not the last.

Last time I called them out on their act they started to feign misunderstanding and gaslighting me. It's rinse and repeat. Gets a kick out of being an above-average effort and intelligence troll I guess.

That's disappointing

[Kobeskillz]

Anytime the Lakers, Celtics or Warriors complain about calls I get an uncontrollable fit of laughter

Successful teams get the benefit. Cry me a river.

... Not even the most ardent Lakers' homer believes that.

Yeah remember how many calls the warriors got before Steph, Klay and the gang?

Oh wait. No. You don't. Because it didn't happen.

[wco81]

The lakers have probably had their worst game of the season. All teams have bad nights. They still have the talent to go deep in the playoffs if their core stay healthy.

If they get the big advantage in FTs as they've been getting.


Tonight might have been a more competitive game if the Lakers got their usual 2 to 1 or greater advantage from the FT line and the refs slowed down the game with a parade to the FT line.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401584883

[FrobeBryant]

So the league-wide conspiracy to give Lakers more free throws is over right? Since the Sixers doubled them in FTA.

[AussieCeltic]

So the league-wide conspiracy to give Lakers more free throws is over right? Since the Sixers doubled them in FTA.

Yes 1 singular game against the leagues best free throw grifter should completely erase a years worth a data.

[wco81]

76ers launched almost 50 3PAs yet Lakers couldn't avoid fouling and sent them to the FT line 26 times?

What happened to defend without fouling?

As if that's some unique Lakers strategy that none of the other teams know about?

[jkvonny]

So the league-wide conspiracy to give Lakers more free throws is over right? Since the Sixers doubled them in FTA.

Sixers waxed that Laker azz tonite.

[wco81]

Lakers can't complain about getting a timeout at end of game when they had lost the ball and were about to give up a game-tying shot attempt.

[CIN-C-STAR]

Lakers can't complain about getting a timeout at end of game when they had lost the ball and were about to give up a game-tying shot attempt.

Just another part of Ham's genius strategy that the rest of the league hasn't caught up to yet, like contesting shots without fouling

[JustBuzzin]

Yall still hating on the Lakers in 2023 is WILD!

[Whole Truth]

Opponent FTA
Bud - Hawks 16-17: 4th
Bud - Hawks 17-18: 12th
Pierce - Hawks 18-19: 30th

Kidd - Bucks 17-18: 25th
Bud - Bucks 18-19: 4th

Vogel - Lakers 21-22: 26th
Ham - Lakers 22-23: 1st

Interesting that the year at 26th plays into the excuse makers' reasoning

Dude stop bringing up stats! The Lakers get calls ok. That year they were 26th the refs didn't get the money in their account thats it. This clerical error that was corrected the following year.

Not sure what's funny.

Tell me. Didn't the Lakers yield the 8th pick to NO's in 21-22 draft ? Think being ranked 26th in FT's had anything to do with it ?.

Don't rookies generally not get the benefit of the doubt ? not in Reaves case though.

Happy coincidence going from bottom 8, 26th in FT's to losing Monk your 3rd best player for a rookie to WCF's & 1st in FT's ,with a rookie getting the respect not only to get but to generate calls with flopping, isn't it ?. I'm sure it can be explained away by Laker fans as a happy coincidence of a mere coaching change & better play not favorable calls & non calls, leading to favorable runs.

[FrobeBryant]

Lakers can't complain about getting a timeout at end of game when they had lost the ball and were about to give up a game-tying shot attempt.

https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-the-time-out-called-in-the-final-minute-of-tonights-phoenix-suns-at-los-angeles-lakers-game/

I know it doesn’t fit into your narrative but here’s the referee report about that timeout.

[Homer38]

Interesting that the year at 26th plays into the excuse makers' reasoning

Dude stop bringing up stats! The Lakers get calls ok. That year they were 26th the refs didn't get the money in their account thats it. This clerical error that was corrected the following year.

Not sure what's funny.

Tell me. Didn't the Lakers yield the 8th pick to NO's in 21-22 draft ? Think being ranked 26th in FT's had anything to do with it ?.

Don't rookies generally not get the benefit of the doubt ? not in Reaves case though.

Happy coincidence going from bottom 8, 26th in FT's to losing Monk your 3rd best player for a rookie to WCF's & 1st in FT's ,with a rookie getting the respect not only to get but to generate calls with flopping, isn't it ?. I'm sure it can be explained away by Laker fans as a happy coincidence of a mere coaching change & better play not favorable calls & non calls, leading to favorable runs.

What a joke....I mean the lakers were awful in 2022 because the fit with Westbrook was awful and they were once again bad last year when they had Westbrook....Before Westbrook, the Lakers were one of the best teams in the league when LBJ and AD were healthy....It was a problem in 2022 too(for their health) and even last year....

For the free throws, the strategy of Ham is to protect the paint and that's one of the big reasons why the Lakers give so few free throws....The Bucks had the same strategy and same result when Ham was with the Bucks for the FTA by the opponents... I know it's hard for you to understand, but it's not that hard

Btw, the lakers had at least 3 losses in the same month last year with mistakes from the refs at the end of the games, even though the lakers were still in a hole in the standing and this year in the game against Dallas, they missed a illegal defense by the Mavs at the end of the game when the Lakers were down by only 1 point with under 10 seconds to play, so cry me a river!

[Whole Truth]

Dude stop bringing up stats! The Lakers get calls ok. That year they were 26th the refs didn't get the money in their account thats it. This clerical error that was corrected the following year.

Not sure what's funny.

Tell me. Didn't the Lakers yield the 8th pick to NO's in 21-22 draft ? Think being ranked 26th in FT's had anything to do with it ?.

Don't rookies generally not get the benefit of the doubt ? not in Reaves case though.

Happy coincidence going from bottom 8, 26th in FT's to losing Monk your 3rd best player for a rookie to WCF's & 1st in FT's ,with a rookie getting the respect not only to get but to generate calls with flopping, isn't it ?. I'm sure it can be explained away by Laker fans as a happy coincidence of a mere coaching change & better play not favorable calls & non calls, leading to favorable runs.

What a joke....I mean the lakers were awful in 2022 because the fit with Westbrook was awful and they were once again bad last year when they had Westbrook....Before Westbrook, the Lakers were one of the best teams in the league when LBJ and AD were healthy....It was a problem in 2022 too(for their health) and even last year....

For the free throws, the strategy of Ham is to protect the paint and that's one of the big reasons why the Lakers give so few free throws....The Bucks had the same strategy and same result when Ham was with the Bucks for the FTA by the opponents... I know it's hard for you to understand, but it's not that hard

Btw, the lakers had at least 3 losses in the same month last year with mistakes from the refs at the end of the games, even though the lakers were still in a hole in the standing and this year in the game against Dallas, they missed a illegal defense by the Mavs at the end of the game when the Lakers were down by only 1 point with under 10 seconds to play, so cry me a river!

Like I said you can give me all the explanations you want to justify the swing from 22-23.

Fact - the rookie got a lot of respect from officiating where most rookies don't
Fact - When Lakers ended up with the 8th seed, they were 26 in FT's.
Fact - When Lakers ended up #1 in FT's with a wide disparity they reached the WCF's.

To anyone following this thread. Pull up the Lakers, Bulls match from last yr. The one where both Lebron & AD were out. The one they pulled off a close win with + double digit FT's over a healthy Heat team, without their 2 super stars, you will see the real joke..

[Homer38]

Not sure what's funny.

Tell me. Didn't the Lakers yield the 8th pick to NO's in 21-22 draft ? Think being ranked 26th in FT's had anything to do with it ?.

Don't rookies generally not get the benefit of the doubt ? not in Reaves case though.

Happy coincidence going from bottom 8, 26th in FT's to losing Monk your 3rd best player for a rookie to WCF's & 1st in FT's ,with a rookie getting the respect not only to get but to generate calls with flopping, isn't it ?. I'm sure it can be explained away by Laker fans as a happy coincidence of a mere coaching change & better play not favorable calls & non calls, leading to favorable runs.

What a joke....I mean the lakers were awful in 2022 because the fit with Westbrook was awful and they were once again bad last year when they had Westbrook....Before Westbrook, the Lakers were one of the best teams in the league when LBJ and AD were healthy....It was a problem in 2022 too(for their health) and even last year....

For the free throws, the strategy of Ham is to protect the paint and that's one of the big reasons why the Lakers give so few free throws....The Bucks had the same strategy and same result when Ham was with the Bucks for the FTA by the opponents... I know it's hard for you to understand, but it's not that hard

Btw, the lakers had at least 3 losses in the same month last year with mistakes from the refs at the end of the games, even though the lakers were still in a hole in the standing and this year in the game against Dallas, they missed a illegal defense by the Mavs at the end of the game when the Lakers were down by only 1 point with under 10 seconds to play, so cry me a river!

Like I said you can give me all the explanations you want to justify the swing from 22-23.

Fact - the rookie got a lot of respect from officiating where most rookies don't
Fact - When Lakers ended up with the 8th seed, they were 26 in FT's.
Fact - When Lakers ended up #1 in FT's with a wide disparity they reached the WCF's.

To anyone following this thread. Pull up the Lakers, Bulls match from last yr. The one where both Lebron & AD were out. The one they pulled off a close win with + double digit FT's over a healthy Heat team, without their 2 super stars, you will see the real joke..

Reaves was not a rookie last year,so you are 100% wrong.Reaves was also very good at drawing foul in college in his last 2 years.The 2022 lakers were just a awful team and they were old and slow like crazy and Davis was out for half of the season who is huge for our defense.Last year they were a entire different team after the trade deadline,the reason why the result was much better!

And,LeBron and AD have played both game vs Bulls last year so stop talking nonsense!

[Homer38]

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[Whole Truth]

What a joke....I mean the lakers were awful in 2022 because the fit with Westbrook was awful and they were once again bad last year when they had Westbrook....Before Westbrook, the Lakers were one of the best teams in the league when LBJ and AD were healthy....It was a problem in 2022 too(for their health) and even last year....

For the free throws, the strategy of Ham is to protect the paint and that's one of the big reasons why the Lakers give so few free throws....The Bucks had the same strategy and same result when Ham was with the Bucks for the FTA by the opponents... I know it's hard for you to understand, but it's not that hard

Btw, the lakers had at least 3 losses in the same month last year with mistakes from the refs at the end of the games, even though the lakers were still in a hole in the standing and this year in the game against Dallas, they missed a illegal defense by the Mavs at the end of the game when the Lakers were down by only 1 point with under 10 seconds to play, so cry me a river!

Like I said you can give me all the explanations you want to justify the swing from 22-23.

Fact - the rookie got a lot of respect from officiating where most rookies don't
Fact - When Lakers ended up with the 8th seed, they were 26 in FT's.
Fact - When Lakers ended up #1 in FT's with a wide disparity they reached the WCF's.

To anyone following this thread. Pull up the Lakers, Bulls match from last yr. The one where both Lebron & AD were out. The one they pulled off a close win with + double digit FT's over a healthy Heat team, without their 2 super stars, you will see the real joke..

Reaves was not a rookie last year,so you are 100% wrong.Reaves was also very good at drawing foul in college in his last 2 years.The 2022 lakers were just a awful team and they were old and slow like crazy and Davis was out for half of the season who is huge for our defense.Last year they were a entire different team after the trade deadline,the reason why the result was much better!

And,LeBron and AD have played both game vs Bulls last year so stop talking nonsense!

Should I have said young player.

Basketball reference -

2023 - 01 - 04 (Lakers vs Heat) Lakers win 112-109 --- Starting rotation = (Beverly, Bryant, Reaves, Schroeder, Toscano)

[Homer38]

Like I said you can give me all the explanations you want to justify the swing from 22-23.

Fact - the rookie got a lot of respect from officiating where most rookies don't
Fact - When Lakers ended up with the 8th seed, they were 26 in FT's.
Fact - When Lakers ended up #1 in FT's with a wide disparity they reached the WCF's.

To anyone following this thread. Pull up the Lakers, Bulls match from last yr. The one where both Lebron & AD were out. The one they pulled off a close win with + double digit FT's over a healthy Heat team, without their 2 super stars, you will see the real joke..

Reaves was not a rookie last year,so you are 100% wrong.Reaves was also very good at drawing foul in college in his last 2 years.The 2022 lakers were just a awful team and they were old and slow like crazy and Davis was out for half of the season who is huge for our defense.Last year they were a entire different team after the trade deadline,the reason why the result was much better!

And,LeBron and AD have played both game vs Bulls last year so stop talking nonsense!

Basketball reference -

2p23 - 01 - 04 (Lakers vs Heat) Lakers win 112-109 --- Starting rotation = (Beverly, Bryant, Reaves, Schroeder, Toscano)

You also said both game against the Bulls....You were wrong on 90% of your post