are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?!

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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#181 » by srhcan » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:53 pm

1993Playoffs wrote:They seem to be building a really really good collection of Talent

Knicks became legit contender when they get OG. In East only Celtics were better than them.
Now they have added Bridges; if they retain OG then they are better than Celtics IMO.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#182 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:54 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:
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Hello Brooklyn wrote:
No one? He hasn't faced very good defensive teams.

The Pacers lol.

The Celtics are different.

No he wont be bothered by 6'7 OG. This is pure delusion. He would DESTROY OG.

You guys absolutely do not have anyone to give him issues. Not even close.

Nice teams do not win Championships. The Celtics had a top 5 player and another all star. Knicks don't have that.


You mean this OG right?


Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#183 » by iLLmatic860 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:55 pm

Optms wrote:They're already better than Boston because Brunson is already better than anyone on the Celtics. Tatum is trash and only Brown has an argument.

Talent wise they match up fine.

We are not better than Boston

Not to mention they have quite a few Brunson stoppers

But If we still have og and Randle. I think Brun will be fine with Mikal here
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Re: Knicks have the edge to win the East 

Post#184 » by SFour » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:55 pm

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Grahf wrote:
“The Knicks were 20-3 with OG” is officially the new “the Mavericks were actually the best team in basketball after the trade deadline”

I don’t get what you’re all losing your minds over, Bridges is 27 and has never even been an all-star or made an all NBA team, and yet some of you genuinely seem to think he’s worth 15 games in the standings.

I will say, I’m happy that Knicks fans will get to watch a very good team next year, I give them credit for being passionate and loyal to a franchise that has tortured them for so long, and they deserve to see a winner, but this thread is a stupid overreaction.

Boston has a small subset of “fans“ who get off on hating their own team. the OP is one of them, hard to take anything he writes seriously


addition of OG and Bridges for an entire season is definitely worth around +10 wins. Nobody is saying that Bridges alone will give +15 wins, that's a strawman argument.

The Mavs were a great team but they didn't have the elite defense that you need to win a championship....the Knicks will have that elite defense assuming they re-sign OG.


Certainly they could be worth +10 wins, but what're the chances OG is able to stay on the court for a full season? His games played totals the last five years: 69, 43, 48, 67, 50.

The East as a whole is probably going to be better next year as well. Miwaukee will bounce back, Indiana's rising quickly even though almost no one seems to notice how good they are, etc. Things are getting more interesting at the top.

This trade feels a lot like the Raptors trade for Kawhi, taking a big risk to win a championship in a very short window. Maybe it ends up just as well for New York as it did for Toronto, but it's hard to say, and will probably depend on the health of several different teams.


I'm big on defense....Bucks and Pacers don't have defense so I can't take them seriously. Sixers are decent and I think they could steal the Knicks hype if they go after OG.

I wouldn't compare it to the Kawhi trade, Raptors didn't mortgage their future and it was only for 1 season.....Knicks did have to overpay but Bridges requested to be traded there and they should have a solid team for multiple seasons.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#185 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:56 pm

aj174 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
aj174 wrote:Legit? No, they can max out at the ecf with a competitive series, but they need a legit 2nd star

They have option 1, they have even option 3-6, they NEED option 2 to win

I don't think Brunson and OG can stay healthy enough


They might actually need option 1, and already have option 2. Brunson had a breakout season but I am not sold on him being the best player / star on a championship winning team


That's true, he did well in these playoffs, it's another thing altogether to be a #1 guy on a championship team. This knicks team is still missing that big piece, but they're close


Brunson already averaged over 30 against 2 elite playoff defenses in Miami and Philly over the past 2 seasons. He’s a top 10 guy, a top 5 playoff performer and a top 5 MVP candidate this season. He is the big piece.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#186 » by louc1970 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:58 pm

omerome wrote:
louc1970 wrote:Still see size as an issue with NYK.
Assuming Brunson, OG, Bridges, Randle, Mitchell is the starting lineup. If they lose Hartenstein, NYK will certainly need to pick up size in the draft - other than an unrestricted Achiuwa, they have no size over 6'8".
if NYK could lucky enough to role players in Missi/Ware/Holmes they could at least have some players to grow as the guards/wings are all 27 or younger.
I do not think they are Boston ready.

Did Mitchell Robinson die?

Sure he shouldn't be expected to play big minutes, but he's still a very big defensive force when he's on the court.

Excuse my mistake of calling Mitchell Robinson Mitchell. I should have called him Robinson.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#187 » by TheNewEra » Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:59 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
You mean this OG right?


Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.


Bucks have Doc Rivers as the head coach the title window is closed until he’s fired.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#188 » by omerome » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:00 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
You mean this OG right?


Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.

A bigger role in Philly playing behind Embiid and Maxey? So he'd still have a similar role like he was in TOR or he can be the 3rd/4th interchangeable option on the Knicks - a team he is already familiar with.

The choice is ultimately up to him, but he would have a great thing in NY. Him and Bridges would cause a lot of havoc defensively against other teams.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#189 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:01 pm

TheNewEra wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.


Bucks have Doc Rivers as the head coach the title window is closed until he’s fired.


Well I'm just saying they can beat the Knicks :lol:
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#190 » by louc1970 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:01 pm

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aj174 wrote:
ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:
They might actually need option 1, and already have option 2. Brunson had a breakout season but I am not sold on him being the best player / star on a championship winning team


That's true, he did well in these playoffs, it's another thing altogether to be a #1 guy on a championship team. This knicks team is still missing that big piece, but they're close


Brunson already averaged over 30 against 2 elite playoff defenses in Miami and Philly over the past 2 seasons. He’s a top 10 guy, a top 5 playoff performer and a top 5 MVP candidate this season. He is the big piece.

Who was guarding Brunson from Miami? Rozier, Herro are not defensive players.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#191 » by omerome » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:01 pm

louc1970 wrote:
omerome wrote:
louc1970 wrote:Still see size as an issue with NYK.
Assuming Brunson, OG, Bridges, Randle, Mitchell is the starting lineup. If they lose Hartenstein, NYK will certainly need to pick up size in the draft - other than an unrestricted Achiuwa, they have no size over 6'8".
if NYK could lucky enough to role players in Missi/Ware/Holmes they could at least have some players to grow as the guards/wings are all 27 or younger.
I do not think they are Boston ready.

Did Mitchell Robinson die?

Sure he shouldn't be expected to play big minutes, but he's still a very big defensive force when he's on the court.

Excuse my mistake of calling Mitchell Robinson Mitchell. I should have called him Robinson.

No, I am saying that Mitchell Robinson is clearly taller than 6'8. So they actually do have size.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#192 » by blueNorange » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:02 pm

so hello brooklyn is in 2 different threads trying to pour cold water on the knicks

darn
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#193 » by Hello Brooklyn » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:03 pm

omerome wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.

A bigger role in Philly playing behind Embiid and Maxey? So he'd still have a similar role like he was in TOR or he can be the 3rd/4th interchangeable option on the Knicks - a team he is already familiar with.

The choice is ultimately up to him, but he would have a great thing in NY. Him and Bridges would cause a lot of havoc defensively against other teams.


3rd option on Philly v 4th option in NYC. Not saying it will happen.

But its possible. Isn't it?

Bridges/OG/Randle sounds like a very crowded front court.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#194 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:03 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
iLLmatic860 wrote:
Jcity08 wrote:
You mean this OG right?


Lmaoo dudes just be talking out they ass on the gb. Say **** without doing simple search

Og is one of the few guys in the league that can contain Giannis


One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.


Nobody can shutdown Giannis. But OG absolutely bothers him. There’s a reason Giannis has played below his averages when matched up against him. Stats you can easily look up.

What bigger role is OG getting in Philly? He’s gonna be standing in the corner waiting for a kick out just like he would with the Knicks. Unless Philly is outbidding the Knicks, OG isn’t going anywhere.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#195 » by DimesandKnicks » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:04 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
DimesandKnicks wrote:
doogie_hauser wrote:With all due respect, I don't think an addition like Mikal Bridges would overly concern Boston too much.

They still don't have enough quality perimeter shooters and defenders, injuries aside, the Pacers exploited that weakness in their East Semi Finals series (as well as being way too quick on transition offence)

OG whilst a fantastic defensive beast, is not really renowned for his shooting prowess (plus his injury history)


They added a wing that made nearly 3 threes a game last year and OG is one of the most efficient corner three point shooters in the league and Divo I think top 3 in the 3PM



OG is gone mate.


We’ll see
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#196 » by omerome » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:04 pm

louc1970 wrote:
bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
aj174 wrote:
That's true, he did well in these playoffs, it's another thing altogether to be a #1 guy on a championship team. This knicks team is still missing that big piece, but they're close


Brunson already averaged over 30 against 2 elite playoff defenses in Miami and Philly over the past 2 seasons. He’s a top 10 guy, a top 5 playoff performer and a top 5 MVP candidate this season. He is the big piece.

Who was guarding Brunson from Miami? Rozier, Herro are not defensive players.

Neither of those guys were playing for or were available for the Heat in the 2022-2023 season. Which is what we're referencing.

That team went to the NBA finals. The same team that beat the Celtics prior to them getting Jrue and KP.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#197 » by Ben-N1ce » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:04 pm

KingofTheClay wrote:
Ben-N1ce wrote:Yes. 76ers did the same thing with Tobias Harris and it made them legit.

Comparing DPOY-Caliber Bridges to bum Harris?

The green teamers have never watched a single non Celtics game in their lives. I highly doubt they watch their own team, they just Stan for Tatum.


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. Both cost far too much..

They gave up nearly Triple the Derrick White trade to Boston...
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#198 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:05 pm

blueNorange wrote:so hello brooklyn is in 2 different threads trying to pour cold water on the knicks

darn



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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#199 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:06 pm

louc1970 wrote:
bronxknicksfan1 wrote:
aj174 wrote:
That's true, he did well in these playoffs, it's another thing altogether to be a #1 guy on a championship team. This knicks team is still missing that big piece, but they're close


Brunson already averaged over 30 against 2 elite playoff defenses in Miami and Philly over the past 2 seasons. He’s a top 10 guy, a top 5 playoff performer and a top 5 MVP candidate this season. He is the big piece.

Who was guarding Brunson from Miami? Rozier, Herro are not defensive players.


Last season when Miami was on their Finals run? Before Rozier and when Tyler Herro was out for the playoffs?

They threw the whole team at Brunson.
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Re: are the Knicks LEGIT contenders?! 

Post#200 » by TheNewEra » Wed Jun 26, 2024 5:06 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:
One stupid Youtube clip means OG can guard Giannis???? :lol:

Now I've heard it all. I hope you guys go with that strategy.

Also funny how you assume OG is coming back to the Knicks.

What if he goes to Philly for a bigger role?

Don't count your eggs before they hatch.


Bucks have Doc Rivers as the head coach the title window is closed until he’s fired.


Well I'm just saying they can beat the Knicks :lol:
Doc is just really bad at adapting but maybe they get a underdog boost.


Just can’t see it. Already concerns with Middleton and Lopez while each year Dame is a risk for a large drop off.

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