Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him

[Sweet Serenity]

All right so I hear there is an MVP for Olympics Basketball that was dormant but that the media revived. Predictably it goes to LeBron James. Unfortunately by predictably I don't mean that it was because he was the clearcut choice from the actual performances but more in the sense that ahead of time you know that certain movies that fit the Oscar bait mold will likely win the Oscar whatever the merits of the other movies nominated.

Look I get the argument for LeBron's selection and because I do I understand it can come off as petty to criticize it. My initial inclination therefore after rolling my eyes is to quietly move on.

But then I remember something.

This isn't an isolated incident.

Far from it. It is part of what appears to be a consistent pattern.

And the one who is being targeted and disadvantaged is Steph Curry.

I recognized Curry as a special player around 2016. Even after the loss in the finals I projected that he could be a top 5 player all-time. To me it was obvious that the signs were there. That's why I've been mystified ever since that there have been so many expressions of doubt or what I perceived to be low assessments of Steph's impact.

Why is it taking people so long to recognize just how incredible Steph Curry is?

I cannot help but escape the feeling that part of the reason is that the media has been manipulating and perverting opinions about him. Whenever he falls short, they are quick to write him off. Whenever he succeeds, they damn him with faint praise treating him like a precocious child who won a high school science project. And whenever a comparison is to be made they make the most underwhelming one they can get away with.

Case I
The Iguodala FMVP
Probably the most prominent early incident was the 2015 FMVP selection. There was an earlier notable media snub when Curry wasn't selected for an All-NBA team in 2013 but that was perhaps understandable with Curry just emerging as a force on the biggest stage but by the 2015 Finals Curry had just led his team to 67 wins and was named MVP.

Still when his team won, the FMVP was given to Iguodala. Curry looked lackluster and stymied for a lot of the series and a narrative built up that a change in the starting lineup suggested by a video guy to wide-eyed newbie coach Steve Kerr was the key to victory. The feel good story of a democratic team combined with Iguodala being the one guarding LeBron was enough to override the gaping scoring difference between Steph and Andre and the fact Steph exploding in the 4th quarters of the critical games is what sealed the championship win in 6 games. The media was clearly wed to the idea that LeBron was the reason for everything and reasoned that stopping him was all that mattered. Iguodala it is. Steph Curry? Good player but his success this year was probably a blip and he'll fade away and become just another passing season rival for LeBron like Paul George. Oh how wrong they were. But the end result in this case was still Curry's reputation being sacrificed to uphold the narrative that LeBron was unfairly overmatched by a great team effort.

Case II
The Durant FMVPs
After the thrilling but ultimately disappointing 2016 Durant comes to town. Media automatically starts treating KD like he's the best player on the team. Despite Curry having already led his team to a championship. Despite Curry having already led his team to two historic seasons. Despite Curry being the one and only unanimous MVP in NBA history. Despite Curry and the Warriors facing KD and the Thunder the previous year and emerging victorious. For some reason KD's the guy. I like KD. I think he's great. But the way the media was completely ignoring Curry was absolutely bizarre.

KD and the Warriors click. KD and Curry are brilliant together. When it's time to acknowledge them, however, the media instead of acting like journalists when they sold the Iguodala FMVP as a nod to the democratic nature of the team chooses to act like a drama instigator by awarding two FMVPs to KD despite lots and lots of room to take in the big picture that the lopsided finals victories provided. So instead of the story being two great players teaming up to dominate the league, the media story is KD takes over and is the best player. End result is Curry's now being portrayed as some secondary support player in a KD show. Meanwhile LeBron is still sitting pretty because the previous unfairly overmatched narrative is actually reasonable and with the media spotlight on KD the player with the actual best argument against LeBron's supremacy is being obscured.

Case III
MVPs 2017-2022
Curry in 2017 leads what is arguably the greatest NBA team of all-time to a 67-win record. Curry is 6th in MVP voting. What? Okay there are some understandable factors chiefly KD on the same team. But KD missed something like 14 games. Doesn't matter. As long as Curry and KD are together they're pretty much ruled out from MVP consideration. Mind you playing with Wade didn't stop LeBron from becoming MVP in 2012 or 2013 or being top 3 in MVP voting in their inaugural year.

I'll also make a quick note regarding Giannis' and Jokic's two MVPs each during this time. I've heard it argued based mainly on their MVPs that they are close to Steph in terms of career achievements. Sorry but they are still both faaar away. Even Jokic with his three MVPs doesn't yet come close to defining an era the way Steph has impacted his prime years. Steph in 2021 and 2022 presented two contrasting arguments for MVP, Jokic presented the same one. Steph did not get a benefit of the doubt that someone like Magic did.
End result is that even though Steph probably would have clearly overtaken LeBron for most people, media hid that behind Giannis and Jokic talk.

Case IV
The Obvious Debate
There are media talk shows that seem to do nothing but debate basketball. This forum is geared to debating nothing but basketball. So why is it that everyone avoids the most obvious comparison of the last decade in basketball? Namely LeBron vs. Steph.
Part of the reason I think some people are so resistant to accepting Steph as a top 10 player all-time is because it makes the comparison unavoidable. But with Steph entrenching himself ever more firmly in the public imagination as not just the greatest shooter of all-time but a top 10 greatest player of all-time it becomes ever more absurd the way the topic is avoided.

Media is clearly part of the reason this debate really hasn't come to pass. They've kept comparing LeBron to Jordan while comparing Curry to Lillard for as long as they could. How ridiculous is that? It's like comparing LeBron to DeMar DeRozan. But media has popularized such a comparison.

From the above one can see that there has been a pattern of gaslighting people into thinking less of Curry. Now I'm sure there are those who would object. They may accuse me of just being a crazy Curry fan. If only the implications were limited to Curry fandom. But think on it a little more and the implications might start getting wild. If media is gaslighting people about this, what else might they be gaslighting people about?—but that might be too scary to think about.

The nba voters actually live Steph tho


Harden somehow only has 7x all nba selections to his name with close to 13 years of all-nba play. The nba will still reward steph will all nba selections after he misses the plsyoffs

Damn Harden’s obsessed fan is back

[Iwasawitness]

All right so I hear there is an MVP for Olympics Basketball that was dormant but that the media revived. Predictably it goes to LeBron James. Unfortunately by predictably I don't mean that it was because he was the clearcut choice from the actual performances but more in the sense that ahead of time you know that certain movies that fit the Oscar bait mold will likely win the Oscar whatever the merits of the other movies nominated.

Look I get the argument for LeBron's selection and because I do I understand it can come off as petty to criticize it. My initial inclination therefore after rolling my eyes is to quietly move on.

But then I remember something.

This isn't an isolated incident.

Far from it. It is part of what appears to be a consistent pattern.

And the one who is being targeted and disadvantaged is Steph Curry.

I recognized Curry as a special player around 2016. Even after the loss in the finals I projected that he could be a top 5 player all-time. To me it was obvious that the signs were there. That's why I've been mystified ever since that there have been so many expressions of doubt or what I perceived to be low assessments of Steph's impact.

Why is it taking people so long to recognize just how incredible Steph Curry is?

I cannot help but escape the feeling that part of the reason is that the media has been manipulating and perverting opinions about him. Whenever he falls short, they are quick to write him off. Whenever he succeeds, they damn him with faint praise treating him like a precocious child who won a high school science project. And whenever a comparison is to be made they make the most underwhelming one they can get away with.

Case I
The Iguodala FMVP
Probably the most prominent early incident was the 2015 FMVP selection. There was an earlier notable media snub when Curry wasn't selected for an All-NBA team in 2013 but that was perhaps understandable with Curry just emerging as a force on the biggest stage but by the 2015 Finals Curry had just led his team to 67 wins and was named MVP.

Still when his team won, the FMVP was given to Iguodala. Curry looked lackluster and stymied for a lot of the series and a narrative built up that a change in the starting lineup suggested by a video guy to wide-eyed newbie coach Steve Kerr was the key to victory. The feel good story of a democratic team combined with Iguodala being the one guarding LeBron was enough to override the gaping scoring difference between Steph and Andre and the fact Steph exploding in the 4th quarters of the critical games is what sealed the championship win in 6 games. The media was clearly wed to the idea that LeBron was the reason for everything and reasoned that stopping him was all that mattered. Iguodala it is. Steph Curry? Good player but his success this year was probably a blip and he'll fade away and become just another passing season rival for LeBron like Paul George. Oh how wrong they were. But the end result in this case was still Curry's reputation being sacrificed to uphold the narrative that LeBron was unfairly overmatched by a great team effort.

Case II
The Durant FMVPs
After the thrilling but ultimately disappointing 2016 Durant comes to town. Media automatically starts treating KD like he's the best player on the team. Despite Curry having already led his team to a championship. Despite Curry having already led his team to two historic seasons. Despite Curry being the one and only unanimous MVP in NBA history. Despite Curry and the Warriors facing KD and the Thunder the previous year and emerging victorious. For some reason KD's the guy. I like KD. I think he's great. But the way the media was completely ignoring Curry was absolutely bizarre.

KD and the Warriors click. KD and Curry are brilliant together. When it's time to acknowledge them, however, the media instead of acting like journalists when they sold the Iguodala FMVP as a nod to the democratic nature of the team chooses to act like a drama instigator by awarding two FMVPs to KD despite lots and lots of room to take in the big picture that the lopsided finals victories provided. So instead of the story being two great players teaming up to dominate the league, the media story is KD takes over and is the best player. End result is Curry's now being portrayed as some secondary support player in a KD show. Meanwhile LeBron is still sitting pretty because the previous unfairly overmatched narrative is actually reasonable and with the media spotlight on KD the player with the actual best argument against LeBron's supremacy is being obscured.

Case III
MVPs 2017-2022
Curry in 2017 leads what is arguably the greatest NBA team of all-time to a 67-win record. Curry is 6th in MVP voting. What? Okay there are some understandable factors chiefly KD on the same team. But KD missed something like 14 games. Doesn't matter. As long as Curry and KD are together they're pretty much ruled out from MVP consideration. Mind you playing with Wade didn't stop LeBron from becoming MVP in 2012 or 2013 or being top 3 in MVP voting in their inaugural year.

I'll also make a quick note regarding Giannis' and Jokic's two MVPs each during this time. I've heard it argued based mainly on their MVPs that they are close to Steph in terms of career achievements. Sorry but they are still both faaar away. Even Jokic with his three MVPs doesn't yet come close to defining an era the way Steph has impacted his prime years. Steph in 2021 and 2022 presented two contrasting arguments for MVP, Jokic presented the same one. Steph did not get a benefit of the doubt that someone like Magic did.
End result is that even though Steph probably would have clearly overtaken LeBron for most people, media hid that behind Giannis and Jokic talk.

Case IV
The Obvious Debate
There are media talk shows that seem to do nothing but debate basketball. This forum is geared to debating nothing but basketball. So why is it that everyone avoids the most obvious comparison of the last decade in basketball? Namely LeBron vs. Steph.
Part of the reason I think some people are so resistant to accepting Steph as a top 10 player all-time is because it makes the comparison unavoidable. But with Steph entrenching himself ever more firmly in the public imagination as not just the greatest shooter of all-time but a top 10 greatest player of all-time it becomes ever more absurd the way the topic is avoided.

Media is clearly part of the reason this debate really hasn't come to pass. They've kept comparing LeBron to Jordan while comparing Curry to Lillard for as long as they could. How ridiculous is that? It's like comparing LeBron to DeMar DeRozan. But media has popularized such a comparison.

From the above one can see that there has been a pattern of gaslighting people into thinking less of Curry. Now I'm sure there are those who would object. They may accuse me of just being a crazy Curry fan. If only the implications were limited to Curry fandom. But think on it a little more and the implications might start getting wild. If media is gaslighting people about this, what else might they be gaslighting people about?—but that might be too scary to think about.

The nba voters actually live Steph tho


Harden somehow only has 7x all nba selections to his name with close to 13 years of all-nba play. The nba will still reward steph will all nba selections after he misses the plsyoffs

Damn Harden’s obsessed fan is back

Now they can battle it out with their conspiracy theories. Magnet rims vs Curry being hated by the media, which is worse?

[KyRo23]

You know what I find interesting about this whole Lebron situation is many players & coaches in the league seem to like him. That's something I don't really understand.

For instance Lebron in 2012 in the playoffs had his lackeys putting out hit pieces on D. Wade all over the internet to deflect and take blame off the fake propaganda king. And D. Wade was suppose to be his boy. With friends like Lebron who need enemies?

The same thing with coaches like Mike Brown. Who obviously did a very good job with that young Cavs team. It was the defense that Brown had them playing that was primarily responsible for their success. It certainly wasn't Lebron 36% shooting on jumpers. Yet Lebron and his media team went out of their way to try to lay all the blame on him and destroy his coaching career just to deflect blame off Lebron coming up short over and over. And yet amazing somehow Brown doesn't seem to whole any ill will toward the guy.

I must says Wade and Brown are certainly bigger men than me. I can admit that.

I wonder how Westbrook feel about the guy?

It's wild that you have the capacity to notice this, but not see why it is. Maybe the things you hear about LeBron aren't all true and the people who ACTUALLY know him and are around him are more accurate?

[WarriorGM]

...I literally just pointed out an entire thread worth of it. Again, there's no conspiracy against Curry. But if you really wanted me to get specific, I could talk about the fact that you think Curry has an argument over LeBron or MJ, his defensive impact on the Warriors and the god knows how many times you've tried to explain why and how Curry had the worst supporting cast of all time to win a title in 2015 and 2022.

Yeah I do. I think a projection could be made as early as 2016. Curry's gone to 4 finals and won 3 championships out of them since. What's your point?

Steph is a greater player than LeBron. If you guys don't see it that's your problem. But my estimate that I made years ago looks good to me.

And LeBron’s gone to ten while winning four, all while accomplishing far more than Curry and out playing him in every single finals they met in apart from 2018 (and that’s only because he had an injured hand after game 1). There’s no conceivable argument for Curry being greater and yet you’re acting like we’re all idiots for thinking it. At some point you need to realize there’s a reason no one here agrees with you. And it’s not because you’re smarter than us. It’s become evident at that point that you aren’t.

Strolling to the finals through the Eastern Conference 10 times doesn't seems so hot a comparison when one considers Curry faced the same number from the All-NBA First Team in one of his championship runs that LeBron did in the Eastern Conference in 10 years.

Accomplishing more than Curry? Depends on what you consider an accomplishment. The quality of Curry's accomplishments is higher. Take these Olympics, LeBron may have done more throughout but when the team was in real danger it was Curry who kept them in it and Curry who put it away.

I don't care much for the opinions of those who have already made up their mind because they are diehard LeBron fans. I'm just putting it out there for people like those who watched these Olympics saw what Curry did and then are scratching their heads wondering why LeBron was awarded an MVP.

All this "no one agrees with you" rubbish coming from LeBron fans is just more of the gaslighting I speak of.

[MavsDirk41]

Does anyone even have him outside their top 15? Even then I think most have him in their top 10 or close. Curry is not underrated nor underappreciated in any way, shape, or form. He's respected and loved by the fans and media alike, and he's either the most popular player in the league or 1A/1B with LeBron. This whole thing is just so bizarre.

As you see if you frequent that archaic forum enough and imbibe it's backwardness one might still think top 20 is reasonable.

I believe this is their most recent all-time list:



Curry ranked 11th. I have a few problems with it, as anyone will have with any such list: LeBron and Jordan IMO should be top 2 in whatever order, Bird at 12th and below Curry I don't agree with, KG too high, Kobe maybe a touch low, etc. But that forum has Curry 11th all time, perfectly reasonable. Seriously, this disrespect towards Curry you're dedicating all your free time towards simply does not exist.

Where is that list from lol? I assume the PC board?

[WolfAddict]

Yeah I do. I think a projection could be made as early as 2016. Curry's gone to 4 finals and won 3 championships out of them since. What's your point?

Steph is a greater player than LeBron. If you guys don't see it that's your problem. But my estimate that I made years ago looks good to me.

And LeBron’s gone to ten while winning four, all while accomplishing far more than Curry and out playing him in every single finals they met in apart from 2018 (and that’s only because he had an injured hand after game 1). There’s no conceivable argument for Curry being greater and yet you’re acting like we’re all idiots for thinking it. At some point you need to realize there’s a reason no one here agrees with you. And it’s not because you’re smarter than us. It’s become evident at that point that you aren’t.

Strolling to the finals through the Eastern Conference 10 times doesn't seems so hot a comparison when one considers Curry faced the same number from the All-NBA First Team in one of his championship runs that LeBron did in the Eastern Conference in 10 years.

Accomplishing more than Curry? Depends on what you consider an accomplishment. The quality of Curry's accomplishments is higher. Take these Olympics, LeBron may have done more throughout but when the team was in real danger it was Curry who kept them in it and Curry who put it away.

I don't care much for the opinions of those who have already made up their mind because they are diehard LeBron fans. I'm just putting it out there for people like those who watched these Olympics saw what Curry did and then are scratching their heads wondering why LeBron was awarded an MVP.

All this "no one agrees with you" rubbish coming from LeBron fans is just more of the gaslighting I speak of.

Not a Lebron fan by any stretch, and Curry is easily one of my favourite non-Wolves players ever.

But Curry is definitely NOT underrated and there is no gaslighting - It may be your MO, but all you're doing is coming across as a **** Curry stan who makes up narratives to argue with strangers on the internet.

Read a book, touch some grass or take your meds. Whichever one helps.

[WarriorGM]

And LeBron’s gone to ten while winning four, all while accomplishing far more than Curry and out playing him in every single finals they met in apart from 2018 (and that’s only because he had an injured hand after game 1). There’s no conceivable argument for Curry being greater and yet you’re acting like we’re all idiots for thinking it. At some point you need to realize there’s a reason no one here agrees with you. And it’s not because you’re smarter than us. It’s become evident at that point that you aren’t.

Strolling to the finals through the Eastern Conference 10 times doesn't seems so hot a comparison when one considers Curry faced the same number from the All-NBA First Team in one of his championship runs that LeBron did in the Eastern Conference in 10 years.

Accomplishing more than Curry? Depends on what you consider an accomplishment. The quality of Curry's accomplishments is higher. Take these Olympics, LeBron may have done more throughout but when the team was in real danger it was Curry who kept them in it and Curry who put it away.

I don't care much for the opinions of those who have already made up their mind because they are diehard LeBron fans. I'm just putting it out there for people like those who watched these Olympics saw what Curry did and then are scratching their heads wondering why LeBron was awarded an MVP.

All this "no one agrees with you" rubbish coming from LeBron fans is just more of the gaslighting I speak of.

Not a Lebron fan by any stretch, and Curry is easily one of my favourite non-Wolves players ever.

But Curry is definitely NOT underrated and there is no gaslighting - It may be your MO, but all you're doing is coming across as a **** Curry stan who makes up narratives to argue with strangers on the internet.

Read a book, touch some grass or take your meds. Whichever one helps.

What's your definition of underrated? Can I speak of Curry in the same breath as LeBron and MJ or do you object to that?

After watching these last two Olympic games would you believe it was commonly said by those who wanted to criticize him that Curry isn't clutch? How did that idea come about? I'll tell you how: gaslighting.

[WolfAddict]

Not a Lebron fan by any stretch, and Curry is easily one of my favourite non-Wolves players ever.

But Curry is definitely NOT underrated and there is no gaslighting - It may be your MO, but all you're doing is coming across as a **** Curry stan who makes up narratives to argue with strangers on the internet.

Read a book, touch some grass or take your meds. Whichever one helps.

What's your definition of underrated? Can I speak of Curry in the same breath as LeBron and MJ or do you object to that?

After watching these last two Olympic games would you believe it was commonly said by those who wanted to criticize him that Curry isn't clutch? How did that idea come about? I'll tell you how: gaslighting.

A player that is good but rated bad... Pretty self explanatory if you ask me, but I'd hazard a guess you have some long winded definition that suits your argument?

Of course you can - I don't give a rats arse how you talk about Curry or any other player - Do you brother.

Bro you're really grasping at anything to get upset about and it's **** cringe - No one is here thinking "Oh this guys makes some really good points, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter"

No gaslighting, just a different opinion to yours. Let go of the pearls and have a cup of tea or something.

[Iwasawitness]

Yeah I do. I think a projection could be made as early as 2016. Curry's gone to 4 finals and won 3 championships out of them since. What's your point?

Steph is a greater player than LeBron. If you guys don't see it that's your problem. But my estimate that I made years ago looks good to me.

And LeBron’s gone to ten while winning four, all while accomplishing far more than Curry and out playing him in every single finals they met in apart from 2018 (and that’s only because he had an injured hand after game 1). There’s no conceivable argument for Curry being greater and yet you’re acting like we’re all idiots for thinking it. At some point you need to realize there’s a reason no one here agrees with you. And it’s not because you’re smarter than us. It’s become evident at that point that you aren’t.

Strolling to the finals through the Eastern Conference 10 times doesn't seems so hot a comparison when one considers Curry faced the same number from the All-NBA First Team in one of his championship runs that LeBron did in the Eastern Conference in 10 years.

Accomplishing more than Curry? Depends on what you consider an accomplishment. The quality of Curry's accomplishments is higher. Take these Olympics, LeBron may have done more throughout but when the team was in real danger it was Curry who kept them in it and Curry who put it away.

I don't care much for the opinions of those who have already made up their mind because they are diehard LeBron fans. I'm just putting it out there for people like those who watched these Olympics saw what Curry did and then are scratching their heads wondering why LeBron was awarded an MVP.

All this "no one agrees with you" rubbish coming from LeBron fans is just more of the gaslighting I speak of.

Curry facing a fellow all NBA first team player doesn’t seem all that impressive when you consider the fact he had a significantly better supporting cast than the one he beat.

The quality of Curry’s accomplishments are higher? In what regard? 2013 and 2016 **** all over any championship Curry ever won. LeBron has twice the MVPs and far more records, including the most prestigious with the scoring title. Oh let me guess, unanimous MVP? Made invalid by choking away the championship. Nothing Curry has done holds a candle to what LeBron has accomplished. This isn’t up for debate.

This isn’t a matter of people having their minds made up. This implies that there’s an argument to be made. There isn’t. I believe LeBron is the GOAT and always will but I acknowledge that an argument definitely exists for MJ and hell, one exists for Kareem too. There isn’t an argument for Curry. He doesn’t belong in the conversation. There isn’t anything for us to have made up our minds on. Sometimes things just go without saying. LeBron is greater than Curry. This can’t be argued. And if it can be argued, it can only be by someone with intellect, non bias and an actual understanding of the game. You lack all three of these.

[WarriorGM]

Not a Lebron fan by any stretch, and Curry is easily one of my favourite non-Wolves players ever.

But Curry is definitely NOT underrated and there is no gaslighting - It may be your MO, but all you're doing is coming across as a **** Curry stan who makes up narratives to argue with strangers on the internet.

Read a book, touch some grass or take your meds. Whichever one helps.

What's your definition of underrated? Can I speak of Curry in the same breath as LeBron and MJ or do you object to that?

After watching these last two Olympic games would you believe it was commonly said by those who wanted to criticize him that Curry isn't clutch? How did that idea come about? I'll tell you how: gaslighting.

A player that is good but rated bad... Pretty self explanatory if you ask me, but I'd hazard a guess you have some long winded definition that suits your argument?

Of course you can - I don't give a rats arse how you talk about Curry or any other player - Do you brother.

Bro you're really grasping at anything to get upset about and it's **** cringe - No one is here thinking "Oh this guys makes some really good points, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter"

No gaslighting, just a different opinion to yours. Let go of the pearls and have a cup of tea or something.

My definition for my purposes here was given in one line in the previous post.

You seem like a chill dude. Curry is too. He probably doesn't sweat this stuff either.

But that doesn't mean I have to keep quiet when I see one guy taking all the meatiest bits and leaving everyone else bones at the dinner table.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

i feel that if you're a Curry fan, you hyper focus on the criticism torwards the player. same goes for Lebron etc.

people need to chill out.

[Kawaii Leonard]

Classic WarriorGM post. Another banger.
There’s stanning and then there’s this guy.
How pathetic can one really be to stoop this low?

[WolfAddict]

What's your definition of underrated? Can I speak of Curry in the same breath as LeBron and MJ or do you object to that?

After watching these last two Olympic games would you believe it was commonly said by those who wanted to criticize him that Curry isn't clutch? How did that idea come about? I'll tell you how: gaslighting.

A player that is good but rated bad... Pretty self explanatory if you ask me, but I'd hazard a guess you have some long winded definition that suits your argument?

Of course you can - I don't give a rats arse how you talk about Curry or any other player - Do you brother.

Bro you're really grasping at anything to get upset about and it's **** cringe - No one is here thinking "Oh this guys makes some really good points, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter"

No gaslighting, just a different opinion to yours. Let go of the pearls and have a cup of tea or something.

My definition for my purposes here was given in one line in the previous post.

You seem like a chill dude. Curry is too. He probably doesn't sweat this stuff either.

But that doesn't mean I have to keep quiet when I see one guy taking all the meatiest bits and leaving everyone else bones at the dinner table.

This is where it all falls apart in my opinion - No you don't have to, but when you throw out terms such as "gaslighting" you're going to get grilled over it because it's just hyperbole - Steph Curry is a great player, one of the best to ever play the modern game, can't we be happy with that? - You're the minority here bro so maybe you just take the L and move on

[WarriorGM]

A player that is good but rated bad... Pretty self explanatory if you ask me, but I'd hazard a guess you have some long winded definition that suits your argument?

Of course you can - I don't give a rats arse how you talk about Curry or any other player - Do you brother.

Bro you're really grasping at anything to get upset about and it's **** cringe - No one is here thinking "Oh this guys makes some really good points, I'd like to subscribe to your newsletter"

No gaslighting, just a different opinion to yours. Let go of the pearls and have a cup of tea or something.

My definition for my purposes here was given in one line in the previous post.

You seem like a chill dude. Curry is too. He probably doesn't sweat this stuff either.

But that doesn't mean I have to keep quiet when I see one guy taking all the meatiest bits and leaving everyone else bones at the dinner table.

This is where it all falls apart in my opinion - No you don't have to, but when you throw out terms such as "gaslighting" you're going to get grilled over it because it's just hyperbole - Steph Curry is a great player, one of the best to ever play the modern game, can't we be happy with that? - You're the minority here bro so maybe you just take the L and move on

See this is what I'm talking about.

I'm in the minority so I should just move on?

Why is that again?

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

Even if I were to be in the minority why should I keep my views to myself? Are we part of some cult that disallows challenging the commonly held orthodoxy?

As for taking an L, tell that to the majority of people who doubted Curry in the Curry is exposed thread, not me. I've had too much fun reading stuff like that on here to take an L.

Classic WarriorGM post. Another banger.
There’s stanning and then there’s this guy.
How pathetic can one really be to stoop this low?

Stoop this low? What underhanded dirty tactics am I supposed to have used now?

[Kawaii Leonard]

My definition for my purposes here was given in one line in the previous post.

You seem like a chill dude. Curry is too. He probably doesn't sweat this stuff either.

But that doesn't mean I have to keep quiet when I see one guy taking all the meatiest bits and leaving everyone else bones at the dinner table.

This is where it all falls apart in my opinion - No you don't have to, but when you throw out terms such as "gaslighting" you're going to get grilled over it because it's just hyperbole - Steph Curry is a great player, one of the best to ever play the modern game, can't we be happy with that? - You're the minority here bro so maybe you just take the L and move on

See this is what I'm talking about.

I'm in the minority so I should just move on?

Why is that again?

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

Even if I were to be in the minority why should I keep my views to myself? Are we part of some cult that disallows challenging the commonly held orthodoxy?

As for taking an L, tell that to the majority of people who doubted Curry in the Curry is exposed thread, not me. I've had too much fun reading stuff like that on here to take an L.

Classic WarriorGM post. Another banger.
There’s stanning and then there’s this guy.
How pathetic can one really be to stoop this low?

Stoop this low? What underhanded dirty tactics am I supposed to have used now?

Talking out of your ass cheeks again, akin to my signature

[Iwasawitness]

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

This is it. This right here. This is why no one on this site takes you seriously (apart from the warriorschamp guy who is somehow as bad as you are). Your insistence on defying the very obvious aspects of reality in order to justify your stances. You do this all the time.

"I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not" is such an unbelievably stupid statement that has no factual basis to it nor can it be validated with any form of logic, stats or circumstances. You, I and everyone else know at this point that you are in fact in the minority. This thread alone showcases it. But what's more so are the countless times you've tried this and 90% of the people replying to you told you that you're full of ****. You actually expect us to believe anything you're saying at this point?

I do have a genuine question to the mods though, and I'm not trying to tell you guys how to do your job or anything, but how much longer are we going to let this charade go on for? The guy is an obvious troll who doesn't contribute anything to the site. Why do we continue to let him do it? I don't expect an answer, but I'm very curious.

[WarriorGM]

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

This is it. This right here. This is why no one on this site takes you seriously (apart from the warriorschamp guy who is somehow as bad as you are). Your insistence on defying the very obvious aspects of reality in order to justify your stances. You do this all the time.

"I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not" is such an unbelievably stupid statement that has no factual basis to it nor can it be validated with any form of logic, stats or circumstances. You, I and everyone else know at this point that you are in fact in the minority. This thread alone showcases it. But what's more so are the countless times you've tried this and 90% of the people replying to you told you that you're full of ****. You actually expect us to believe anything you're saying at this point?

I do have a genuine question to the mods though, and I'm not trying to tell you guys how to do your job or anything, but how much longer are we going to let this charade go on for? The guy is an obvious troll who doesn't contribute anything to the site. Why do we continue to let him do it? I don't expect an answer, but I'm very curious.

I don't know why you think being in the minority or not is such a big deal. Even then I pointed to some metrics that indicated why I might not be. Now here you are calling for mods to come in and take action. Sheesh stop being so insecure. If you don't like what I'm saying you don't have to respond.

And yes I expect some of the more open-minded intelligent posters out there take my words into consideration. After all I do have a record of saying I thought LeBron and AD were being overlooked at the height of the Kawhi and Paul George Clippers hype and at the start of the 2022 season that I expected a championship from the Warriors.

I think those are better calls than the vast majority of inanity you find around here or on BSPN which doesn't seem to produce anything but an unending stream of junk takes a number of which you can find in the first post of this thread.

[Kawaii Leonard]

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

This is it. This right here. This is why no one on this site takes you seriously (apart from the warriorschamp guy who is somehow as bad as you are). Your insistence on defying the very obvious aspects of reality in order to justify your stances. You do this all the time.

"I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not" is such an unbelievably stupid statement that has no factual basis to it nor can it be validated with any form of logic, stats or circumstances. You, I and everyone else know at this point that you are in fact in the minority. This thread alone showcases it. But what's more so are the countless times you've tried this and 90% of the people replying to you told you that you're full of ****. You actually expect us to believe anything you're saying at this point?

I do have a genuine question to the mods though, and I'm not trying to tell you guys how to do your job or anything, but how much longer are we going to let this charade go on for? The guy is an obvious troll who doesn't contribute anything to the site. Why do we continue to let him do it? I don't expect an answer, but I'm very curious.

What started off as light trolling and buffoonery has soured into asinine distasteful tricks enough to cause brain damage and pulling out one’s hair from putting up with his antics. It’s not from stupidity or a lacking either, he knows exactly what he’s doing too which is the bigger slap in the face. Can we start a poll on something like this? Would wager it’d be the most lopsided result in the history of this board.

[WarriorGM]

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

This is it. This right here. This is why no one on this site takes you seriously (apart from the warriorschamp guy who is somehow as bad as you are). Your insistence on defying the very obvious aspects of reality in order to justify your stances. You do this all the time.

"I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not" is such an unbelievably stupid statement that has no factual basis to it nor can it be validated with any form of logic, stats or circumstances. You, I and everyone else know at this point that you are in fact in the minority. This thread alone showcases it. But what's more so are the countless times you've tried this and 90% of the people replying to you told you that you're full of ****. You actually expect us to believe anything you're saying at this point?

I do have a genuine question to the mods though, and I'm not trying to tell you guys how to do your job or anything, but how much longer are we going to let this charade go on for? The guy is an obvious troll who doesn't contribute anything to the site. Why do we continue to let him do it? I don't expect an answer, but I'm very curious.

What started off as light trolling and buffoonery has soured into asinine distasteful tricks enough to cause brain damage and pulling out one’s hair from putting up with his antics. It’s not from stupidity or a lacking either, he knows exactly what he’s doing too which is the bigger slap in the face. Can we start a poll on something like this? Would wager it’d be the most lopsided result in the history of this board.

Where's the trolling? What are these asinine distasteful tricks you speak of?

[WolfAddict]

My definition for my purposes here was given in one line in the previous post.

You seem like a chill dude. Curry is too. He probably doesn't sweat this stuff either.

But that doesn't mean I have to keep quiet when I see one guy taking all the meatiest bits and leaving everyone else bones at the dinner table.

This is where it all falls apart in my opinion - No you don't have to, but when you throw out terms such as "gaslighting" you're going to get grilled over it because it's just hyperbole - Steph Curry is a great player, one of the best to ever play the modern game, can't we be happy with that? - You're the minority here bro so maybe you just take the L and move on

See this is what I'm talking about.

I'm in the minority so I should just move on?

Why is that again?

First of all I do not really know if I'm in the minority or not. The BSPN media machine amplifies the LeBron narrative but take a look at Youtube videos and take note of which games are the most watched and it is Curry who seems to be drawing the greater audience.

Even if I were to be in the minority why should I keep my views to myself? Are we part of some cult that disallows challenging the commonly held orthodoxy?

As for taking an L, tell that to the majority of people who doubted Curry in the Curry is exposed thread, not me. I've had too much fun reading stuff like that on here to take an L.

Classic WarriorGM post. Another banger.
There’s stanning and then there’s this guy.
How pathetic can one really be to stoop this low?

Stoop this low? What underhanded dirty tactics am I supposed to have used now?

Yes, because you're obviously wrong with regards to Curry being underrated. This isn't some LBJ centric forum, there are a lot of opinions of him and Curry and all the other players - For Curry to "underrated" you'd have a unanimous opinion that he isn't as good as he really is, but we don't. We get a lot of variation in results so, yes, in this instance, the minority is wrong. Same as flat earthers but I digress.

The views on Youtube is your guiding factor? That's just silly in it's premise and in no way "underrates" Curry.

Ok, that's your call. For me, when I'm proven definitively wrong, I tend to have enough self-awareness to admit it.