Thunder is scary good

Moderators: Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid, cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285

Jaqua92
RealGM
Posts: 13,304
And1: 8,527
Joined: Feb 21, 2017
 

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#181 » by Jaqua92 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:18 pm

[
Jaqua92
RealGM
Posts: 13,304
And1: 8,527
Joined: Feb 21, 2017
 

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#182 » by Jaqua92 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:19 pm

Lo Wang wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
They are 15-3 without Chet. That's an 80% win%.

That's why this team is so good. They can lose their second best player and not skip a beat. Heck, they can play without a center and still be above 600. With Hartenstein, they are winning 94% of their games.

So let's do some math.

If they are winning 100% of their games with only Chet and 94% of their games without him and only Hartenstein, then what % of games can they win with both of them in the lineup?

That's why the Thunder is clearly the best team in the nba.

Their ability to play any gameplan is unprecedented.

The NBA literally has no answers for a fully healthy Thunder team.

This is the reason why the Mavs fans point to last year's playoffs and act like those metrics (with Giddey) is relevant to the newly evolved Thunder.

I swear these Mavs fans are stuck in the summer of 2024.

They have absolutely no clue how good this Thunder team is.


I’m not talking about the regular season. I’m talking about the playoffs. It’s a whole different ball game.


You're stuck in the past bro.

Are you aware the Thunder have evolved 2x?

This Thunder team would beat last season's Mavs team.

Mavs never blew out the Thunder. They only won by a couple of points against a below average shooting Thunder team in a few games. The 4 games they won could of went either way.

2025 Thunder > 2024 Mavs.

This team evolved. They are a historical defensive team with Caruso and Hartenstein.


My favorite thing about this is you acknowledging a few pages ago that you're probably wrong.

So we have that to fall back on.

Why do you think OKC is the only team that got better? Or is dealing with injuries?

There was a point when 47% of your games this season (your first 19) were against injured opponents.

Celtics have played less games with their healthy rotation than OKC this year. And they also have a bench player who improved into a 20ppg kind of scorer and is the second best volume 3 point shooter in the entire NBA.

The Celtics won an NBA championship basically without KP.
Loads of teams got better.

OKC is solidifying themselves as the second best team through this early regular season.

Let's see what they can do in the playoffs. The post season is a different game.

If others are stuck in the past, you're stuck in a meaningless stretch of regular season basketball.
Los_29
RealGM
Posts: 15,205
And1: 13,818
Joined: Apr 10, 2021

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#183 » by Los_29 » Sun Dec 15, 2024 3:20 pm

Lo Wang wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
They are 15-3 without Chet. That's an 80% win%.

That's why this team is so good. They can lose their second best player and not skip a beat. Heck, they can play without a center and still be above 600. With Hartenstein, they are winning 94% of their games.

So let's do some math.

If they are winning 100% of their games with only Chet and 94% of their games without him and only Hartenstein, then what % of games can they win with both of them in the lineup?

That's why the Thunder is clearly the best team in the nba.

Their ability to play any gameplan is unprecedented.

The NBA literally has no answers for a fully healthy Thunder team.

This is the reason why the Mavs fans point to last year's playoffs and act like those metrics (with Giddey) is relevant to the newly evolved Thunder.

I swear these Mavs fans are stuck in the summer of 2024.

They have absolutely no clue how good this Thunder team is.


I’m not talking about the regular season. I’m talking about the playoffs. It’s a whole different ball game.


You're stuck in the past bro.

Are you aware the Thunder have evolved 2x?

This Thunder team would beat last season's Mavs team.

Mavs never blew out the Thunder. They only won by a couple of points against a below average shooting Thunder team in a few games. The 4 games they won could of went either way.

2025 Thunder > 2024 Mavs.

This team evolved. They are a historical defensive team with Caruso and Hartenstein.


I must’ve not been paying attention. I didn’t realize the Thunder won the championship.

Can’t say they have evolved when the playoffs haven’t even started.
Lo Wang
Rookie
Posts: 1,155
And1: 620
Joined: Jan 07, 2024

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#184 » by Lo Wang » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:03 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
I’m not talking about the regular season. I’m talking about the playoffs. It’s a whole different ball game.


You're stuck in the past bro.

Are you aware the Thunder have evolved 2x?

This Thunder team would beat last season's Mavs team.

Mavs never blew out the Thunder. They only won by a couple of points against a below average shooting Thunder team in a few games. The 4 games they won could of went either way.

2025 Thunder > 2024 Mavs.

This team evolved. They are a historical defensive team with Caruso and Hartenstein.


I must’ve not been paying attention. I didn’t realize the Thunder won the championship.

Can’t say they have evolved when the playoffs haven’t even started.


So teams can't evolve unless the playoffs started?
Lo Wang
Rookie
Posts: 1,155
And1: 620
Joined: Jan 07, 2024

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#185 » by Lo Wang » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:05 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
I’m not talking about the regular season. I’m talking about the playoffs. It’s a whole different ball game.


You're stuck in the past bro.

Are you aware the Thunder have evolved 2x?

This Thunder team would beat last season's Mavs team.

Mavs never blew out the Thunder. They only won by a couple of points against a below average shooting Thunder team in a few games. The 4 games they won could of went either way.

2025 Thunder > 2024 Mavs.

This team evolved. They are a historical defensive team with Caruso and Hartenstein.


My favorite thing about this is you acknowledging a few pages ago that you're probably wrong.

So we have that to fall back on.

Why do you think OKC is the only team that got better? Or is dealing with injuries?

There was a point when 47% of your games this season (your first 19) were against injured opponents.

Celtics have played less games with their healthy rotation than OKC this year. And they also have a bench player who improved into a 20ppg kind of scorer and is the second best volume 3 point shooter in the entire NBA.

The Celtics won an NBA championship basically without KP.
Loads of teams got better.

OKC is solidifying themselves as the second best team through this early regular season.

Let's see what they can do in the playoffs. The post season is a different game.

If others are stuck in the past, you're stuck in a meaningless stretch of regular season basketball.


Why do you need to wait until the playoffs to accurately assess this team?

Every game is worth a 10 page assessment.
Archx
RealGM
Posts: 12,380
And1: 10,153
Joined: Feb 09, 2018
 

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#186 » by Archx » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:15 pm

Lo Wang wrote:If he was injured, why did he play in the Olympics?


Did you even watch those games? Greece and Croatia murdered Slovenia with a limping Doncic. No one wanted him to play, probably not even his coaches who knew he was not even 80%. He still had issues beginning of this season and Mavs as a team had their own major health problems, well they still do.

Anyway.... Regular season Mavs =/= as playoff Mavs. Last playoffs they struggled on offense and won many games with their defense. That included Doncic who also played surprisingly good on that end through the Western conference battles.

I mean sure, OKC have become stronger and are probably nr2 contender behind Celtics but there are teams (including Mavs), that can again surprise and win vs OKC.
SweetTouch
RealGM
Posts: 20,384
And1: 3,251
Joined: Mar 29, 2010
Location: Fl

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#187 » by SweetTouch » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:15 pm

Lol Brad Steven’s wants Okc in the finals

He will run every play at shai the same way they exposed kyries defense
Stop being so disrespectful.
Lo Wang
Rookie
Posts: 1,155
And1: 620
Joined: Jan 07, 2024

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#188 » by Lo Wang » Mon Dec 16, 2024 12:53 am

SweetTouch wrote:Lol Brad Steven’s wants Okc in the finals

He will run every play at shai the same way they exposed kyries defense


Nobody on the Celtics can stop Shai 1v1 while the Thunder will blitz Tatum like they did Doncic. Their entire starter squad belongs on an all defensive team.

JDub will easily outplay the other wannabee Jalen.

Chet > KP

Celtics will need White to bail them out again because their stars can't get it done :lol: .

P.S. Everything I say is subjective and could be wrong.
Lo Wang
Rookie
Posts: 1,155
And1: 620
Joined: Jan 07, 2024

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#189 » by Lo Wang » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:05 am

Archx wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:If he was injured, why did he play in the Olympics?


Did you even watch those games? Greece and Croatia murdered Slovenia with a limping Doncic. No one wanted him to play, probably not even his coaches who knew he was not even 80%. He still had issues beginning of this season and Mavs as a team had their own major health problems, well they still do.

Anyway.... Regular season Mavs =/= as playoff Mavs. Last playoffs they struggled on offense and won many games with their defense. That included Doncic who also played surprisingly good on that end through the Western conference battles.

I mean sure, OKC have become stronger and are probably nr2 contender behind Celtics but there are teams (including Mavs), that can again surprise and win vs OKC.


Again, he's also injured in the playoffs. You're right, I didn't watch him.

As far as I am concerned, he's healthy if he plays. I am not going to say SGA was injured if he played a bad game. That's just an excuse. How do you know he's injured? You don't. That's just speculation on your part.

I made an accurate future prediction (the most objective speculation) and I was right.

Mavs fans need to hold Doncic to a higher standard.
Archx
RealGM
Posts: 12,380
And1: 10,153
Joined: Feb 09, 2018
 

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#190 » by Archx » Mon Dec 16, 2024 2:17 am

Lo Wang wrote:
Archx wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:If he was injured, why did he play in the Olympics?


Did you even watch those games? Greece and Croatia murdered Slovenia with a limping Doncic. No one wanted him to play, probably not even his coaches who knew he was not even 80%. He still had issues beginning of this season and Mavs as a team had their own major health problems, well they still do.

Anyway.... Regular season Mavs =/= as playoff Mavs. Last playoffs they struggled on offense and won many games with their defense. That included Doncic who also played surprisingly good on that end through the Western conference battles.

I mean sure, OKC have become stronger and are probably nr2 contender behind Celtics but there are teams (including Mavs), that can again surprise and win vs OKC.


Again, he's also injured in the playoffs. You're right, I didn't watch him.

As far as I am concerned, he's healthy if he plays. I am not going to say SGA was injured if he played a bad game. That's just an excuse. How do you know he's injured? You don't. That's just speculation on your part.

I made an accurate future prediction (the most objective speculation) and I was right.

Mavs fans need to hold Doncic to a higher standard.


Well a healthy player doesn't take pain injections before games and isn't wrapped like a mummy in heat bandages when he's subbed out :dontknow:
Lo Wang
Rookie
Posts: 1,155
And1: 620
Joined: Jan 07, 2024

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#191 » by Lo Wang » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:11 am

Archx wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
Archx wrote:
Did you even watch those games? Greece and Croatia murdered Slovenia with a limping Doncic. No one wanted him to play, probably not even his coaches who knew he was not even 80%. He still had issues beginning of this season and Mavs as a team had their own major health problems, well they still do.

Anyway.... Regular season Mavs =/= as playoff Mavs. Last playoffs they struggled on offense and won many games with their defense. That included Doncic who also played surprisingly good on that end through the Western conference battles.

I mean sure, OKC have become stronger and are probably nr2 contender behind Celtics but there are teams (including Mavs), that can again surprise and win vs OKC.


Again, he's also injured in the playoffs. You're right, I didn't watch him.

As far as I am concerned, he's healthy if he plays. I am not going to say SGA was injured if he played a bad game. That's just an excuse. How do you know he's injured? You don't. That's just speculation on your part.

I made an accurate future prediction (the most objective speculation) and I was right.

Mavs fans need to hold Doncic to a higher standard.


Well a healthy player doesn't take pain injections before games and isn't wrapped like a mummy in heat bandages when he's subbed out :dontknow:


You believe he was injured. I don't. We have no evidence to prove who is right. You guys did lose in the finals, which was brutal.

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.
User avatar
Kurtz
RealGM
Posts: 15,579
And1: 16,515
Joined: Aug 07, 2002
Location: Toronto

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#192 » by Kurtz » Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:22 am

It's clear imo that Luka played injured in the playoffs. ALso clear that OKC will have a perfect team top to bottom when Chet returns, would be hard for me to see the Mavs beating them - can't do their lob game with Hartenstein+Chet on the floor. Celtics-OKC seems destined, although Cavs/Knicks can upset the Celtics.
Image
Andri
Senior
Posts: 528
And1: 420
Joined: Jan 24, 2012

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#193 » by Andri » Mon Dec 16, 2024 9:55 am

Oh boy, a good bball-fiction to start the week. People already solving x's and o's during imaginary epic match ups in hypothetical finals.
He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you. He really is an idiot.
Statlanta
RealGM
Posts: 13,869
And1: 10,500
Joined: Mar 06, 2016

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#194 » by Statlanta » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:39 am

OKC already showing young team tendencies(2012 Thunder, 1995 Magic, 2021 Suns) in high pressure games.
The Greatest of All Time debate in basketball is essentially who has the greatest basketball resume of the player who has the best highlights instead of who is the best player
Bob8
RealGM
Posts: 10,728
And1: 4,531
Joined: Feb 08, 2017

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#195 » by Bob8 » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:55 am

Lo Wang wrote:
Archx wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
Again, he's also injured in the playoffs. You're right, I didn't watch him.

As far as I am concerned, he's healthy if he plays. I am not going to say SGA was injured if he played a bad game. That's just an excuse. How do you know he's injured? You don't. That's just speculation on your part.

I made an accurate future prediction (the most objective speculation) and I was right.

Mavs fans need to hold Doncic to a higher standard.


Well a healthy player doesn't take pain injections before games and isn't wrapped like a mummy in heat bandages when he's subbed out :dontknow:


You believe he was injured. I don't. We have no evidence to prove who is right. You guys did lose in the finals, which was brutal.

Whatever helps you sleep at night bro.


Don't you think that #1 team losing second round is more brutal than overachieving Mavs losing Finals against an all season dominant team?

You're pretty cocky for a fan of the team that has won 1 playoffs series in Shai era, who's btw. older than Luka. ;)
User avatar
OkcSinceSGA
RealGM
Posts: 31,168
And1: 32,877
Joined: Sep 19, 2015
 

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#196 » by OkcSinceSGA » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:31 am

In the last couple of weeks or so their net rating has bumped up from around 12.1 to 12.8. After tonight they may go up to 12.9. They are knocking on the doors of the 96 Bulls as the greatest net rating team in history.

Top 10:

96 Bulls at 13.4
25 Thunder at 12.8
97 Bulls at 12.0
17 Warriors at 11.6
24 Celtics at 11.6
16 Spurs at 11.3
08 Celtics at 11.2
92 Bulls at 11.0
71 Bucks at 10.9
25 Cavs at 10.8

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/best-net-rating-in-nba-history-by-season

Where do you have them finishing the year? Will they stay this dominant?
“This kid reminds me of a 6-6 Chris Paul. He wants to win everything.”

Olin Simplis- SGA’s trainer.
bbms
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,477
And1: 1,142
Joined: Dec 28, 2010
     

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#197 » by bbms » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:33 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
I’m not talking about the regular season. I’m talking about the playoffs. It’s a whole different ball game.


You're stuck in the past bro.

Are you aware the Thunder have evolved 2x?

This Thunder team would beat last season's Mavs team.

Mavs never blew out the Thunder. They only won by a couple of points against a below average shooting Thunder team in a few games. The 4 games they won could of went either way.

2025 Thunder > 2024 Mavs.

This team evolved. They are a historical defensive team with Caruso and Hartenstein.


My favorite thing about this is you acknowledging a few pages ago that you're probably wrong.

So we have that to fall back on.

Why do you think OKC is the only team that got better? Or is dealing with injuries?

There was a point when 47% of your games this season (your first 19) were against injured opponents.

Celtics have played less games with their healthy rotation than OKC this year. And they also have a bench player who improved into a 20ppg kind of scorer and is the second best volume 3 point shooter in the entire NBA.

The Celtics won an NBA championship basically without KP.
Loads of teams got better.

OKC is solidifying themselves as the second best team through this early regular season.

Let's see what they can do in the playoffs. The post season is a different game.

If others are stuck in the past, you're stuck in a meaningless stretch of regular season basketball.



we're a few weeks apart of okc completely dumpstering the celtics, holding them to 40 ortg on the second quarter come on, don't be so condescending...
Jaqua92
RealGM
Posts: 13,304
And1: 8,527
Joined: Feb 21, 2017
 

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#198 » by Jaqua92 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:13 am

bbms wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
Lo Wang wrote:
You're stuck in the past bro.

Are you aware the Thunder have evolved 2x?

This Thunder team would beat last season's Mavs team.

Mavs never blew out the Thunder. They only won by a couple of points against a below average shooting Thunder team in a few games. The 4 games they won could of went either way.

2025 Thunder > 2024 Mavs.

This team evolved. They are a historical defensive team with Caruso and Hartenstein.


My favorite thing about this is you acknowledging a few pages ago that you're probably wrong.

So we have that to fall back on.

Why do you think OKC is the only team that got better? Or is dealing with injuries?

There was a point when 47% of your games this season (your first 19) were against injured opponents.

Celtics have played less games with their healthy rotation than OKC this year. And they also have a bench player who improved into a 20ppg kind of scorer and is the second best volume 3 point shooter in the entire NBA.

The Celtics won an NBA championship basically without KP.
Loads of teams got better.

OKC is solidifying themselves as the second best team through this early regular season.

Let's see what they can do in the playoffs. The post season is a different game.

If others are stuck in the past, you're stuck in a meaningless stretch of regular season basketball.



we're a few weeks apart of okc completely dumpstering the celtics, holding them to 40 ortg on the second quarter come on, don't be so condescending...


The Celtics lost to the Kings in Boston a few days later.

It's regular season ball. OKC fans here are thumping their chest without their team showing any indication they can handle anything that has stakes so far.

Just calling it
User avatar
Sharkboy242
Analyst
Posts: 3,192
And1: 4,827
Joined: Feb 19, 2017
   

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#199 » by Sharkboy242 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:15 am

Cant wait to watch the Thunder lose to the Lakers in the playoffs
Onlytimewilltel
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,125
And1: 4,792
Joined: Oct 21, 2020

Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#200 » by Onlytimewilltel » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:22 am

Jaqua92 wrote:
bbms wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
My favorite thing about this is you acknowledging a few pages ago that you're probably wrong.

So we have that to fall back on.

Why do you think OKC is the only team that got better? Or is dealing with injuries?

There was a point when 47% of your games this season (your first 19) were against injured opponents.

Celtics have played less games with their healthy rotation than OKC this year. And they also have a bench player who improved into a 20ppg kind of scorer and is the second best volume 3 point shooter in the entire NBA.

The Celtics won an NBA championship basically without KP.
Loads of teams got better.

OKC is solidifying themselves as the second best team through this early regular season.

Let's see what they can do in the playoffs. The post season is a different game.

If others are stuck in the past, you're stuck in a meaningless stretch of regular season basketball.



we're a few weeks apart of okc completely dumpstering the celtics, holding them to 40 ortg on the second quarter come on, don't be so condescending...


The Celtics lost to the Kings in Boston a few days later.

It's regular season ball. OKC fans here are thumping their chest without their team showing any indication they can handle anything that has stakes so far.

Just calling it


:lol: Dude why you all up in every OKC thread talking about the Celtics? Let these young cats enjoy their good team, don’t be a damn grinch

Return to The General Board