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Re: Spurs could be scary with KD. 

Post#181 » by Effigy » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:34 pm

Depending on the price, but I wouldn't pay much for him. Dude's old and hurt all the time. Can the Spurs win a title with him on the team next year?
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Post#182 » by Bornstellar » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:37 pm

Effigy wrote:Depending on the price, but I wouldn't pay much for him. Dude's old and hurt all the time. Can the Spurs win a title with him on the team next year?

The goal next year is not to win the title, it's to finally return to the playoffs for the first time since 2019. None of us are expecting KD to take us to the top of the mountain but with him and Fox for a full season we should be able to get Victor some valuable playoff experience at the very least
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Re: Spurs could be scary with KD. 

Post#183 » by Scalabrine » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:06 pm

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Scalabrine wrote:Vassell/Barnes and 14 is probably the most I'd do if I were the Spurs.

Wemby
Durant/Sochan
Harper/Champagnie
Castle/Johnson
Fox

Then they'd have about 30 million to fill in the rest of the bench. It's a little undersized at the 2/3 but they'd have a ton of playmaking with all 3 of Harper/Castle/Fox.
I just hate the idea of starting 3 PGs in today's NBA.


I agree it's not perfect, but Is Castle a real point guard? He seems more like a Marcus Smart-type where he can run the offense but he's better off as a secondary playmaker more than an actual point guard.
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Re: Spurs could be scary with KD. 

Post#184 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:16 pm

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Spurs could probably give him whatever he wants for the 2026-27 season

But the 2027-28 season is difficult. It’ll be the first year of Wemby’s max contract
I don’t see the spurs breaking whatever they have at that point for a 39 years old KD

Yeah that year it'll be (presumably) KD, Fox, and Wemby. I'm sure PATFO work backwards from even beyond that point to ensure we can fit them and key others around them. It's why quality rookies are important. And having movable assets (contracts, picks). We have to extend Sochan before then, too, so it'll get tighter quickly. Sochan's name has been floated around as maybe being part of the KD deal which I hope won't be the case. Having a 1 through 4 defender who is good off ball is an important asset. But if more teams get involved, ie/Pels who are looking at trade market for much of their roster, it gets interesting.
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Post#185 » by G R E Y » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:19 pm

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JujitsuFlip wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:Vassell/Barnes and 14 is probably the most I'd do if I were the Spurs.

Wemby
Durant/Sochan
Harper/Champagnie
Castle/Johnson
Fox

Then they'd have about 30 million to fill in the rest of the bench. It's a little undersized at the 2/3 but they'd have a ton of playmaking with all 3 of Harper/Castle/Fox.
I just hate the idea of starting 3 PGs in today's NBA.


I agree it's not perfect, but Is Castle a real point guard? He seems more like a Marcus Smart-type where he can run the offense but he's better off as a secondary playmaker more than an actual point guard.

They don't all have to start.
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Post#187 » by guynumber45 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:59 pm

For me, it's less about contending and moreso about giving Wemby direct access to the best mentor he could for his playstyle/bodytype. If being able to learn from Kevin Durant helps Wemby reach his offensive ceiling, then I'm bringing KD over.
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Post#188 » by HMFFL » Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:07 pm

Effigy wrote:Depending on the price, but I wouldn't pay much for him. Dude's old and hurt all the time. Can the Spurs win a title with him on the team next year?
I doubt the goal is to win the title next season.

KD played 62 games last season, 75 the previous season. That doesn't suggest he's hurt all the time.
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Post#189 » by durden_tyler » Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:18 pm

guynumber45 wrote:For me, it's less about contending and moreso about giving Wemby direct access to the best mentor he could for his playstyle/bodytype. If being able to learn from Kevin Durant helps Wemby reach his offensive ceiling, then I'm bringing KD over.

This. The young gun wants the experience of playing games that matter— not tanking/losing seasons because in his mind, one title or two is below is standard. We are talking generational player here, not the Giannis or Jokic one-hit wonders.


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Post#190 » by DwayneSchintzus » Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:26 pm

most of you guys don't watch every spurs game like i do, so i don't blame you for being bearish on our team in the short term.

but i can tell you wemby creates a TON of opportunities for players on offense. next year it might be durant and fox finishing those plays instead of sochan and tre jones, do the math yourself.

we can absolutely go deep in the playoffs with that. we just don't want to give up too much depth, esp since KD is 37. one pick and two of Vassell/Sochan/Barnes is all I would want to surrender.

phoenix gave up 4 firsts, a swap, 2 2nds, Cam Johnson and Mikal Bridges TWO SEASONS AGO, get ready to get screwed

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Post#191 » by bullsaficianado » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:26 am

Yeah the Wemby kickouts to Fox and Durant will be lethal if the trade happens.
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Post#192 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:46 am

If I was SAS I would try to include Keldon in the deal. Moving off his extra year would be a huge bonus for the Spurs IMO. It would take an upped offer (IMO both 14 and Sochan), but it would likely be worth it in the long run.

KD, 29, 52 for Vassell, Keldon, Sochan, 14, 38

Take Harper 2, take Kalkbrenner 29 (NBA ready backup IMO), take Sandfort 52.
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G - Fox (34) / Harper (14)
G - Harper (16) / Castle (32)
F - Barnes (26) / Julian Champagnie (22)
F - Durant (32) / Chris Boucher (16) *** MLE ***
C - Wemby (32) / Kalkbrenner (16)

Thats pretty strong IMO.
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Post#194 » by LAvision » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:30 am

I just remembered Mitch is still the coach of this team, how the hell is that going to work? KD will eat that clown alive.
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Post#195 » by HMFFL » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:32 am

Lebron teaming up with Wemby and KD is what I would like to see happen now. Two of the greatest basketball minds to play leading Wemby to success would be fun to watch.
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Post#196 » by Scalabrine » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:38 am

G R E Y wrote:
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JujitsuFlip wrote:I just hate the idea of starting 3 PGs in today's NBA.


I agree it's not perfect, but Is Castle a real point guard? He seems more like a Marcus Smart-type where he can run the offense but he's better off as a secondary playmaker more than an actual point guard.

They don't all have to start.


Very true. I think they could though.
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Post#197 » by AIfan3 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:46 am

Trading for KD just doesn't seem like something a Pop ran front office would do.

The Spurs have always been a develop their guys from the ground up organization. I don't see that changing.
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Post#198 » by G R E Y » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:56 am

AIfan3 wrote:Trading for KD just doesn't seem like something a Pop ran front office would do.

The Spurs have always been a develop their guys from the ground up organization. I don't see that changing.

It's just Wemby's rapid improvement has made the trading for better players around him possible and necessary. You can't waste his rookie contract years and have to send the message of being willing to make smart moves.
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Post#199 » by Chuck Everett » Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:56 am

AIfan3 wrote:Trading for KD just doesn't seem like something a Pop ran front office would do.

The Spurs have always been a develop their guys from the ground up organization. I don't see that changing.


Just remember, if it happens and it doesn't succeed, people will say you had to take a chance on a 37-year-old KD. When Wemby could just work out with the guy in the offseason. He doesn't need to play with him. He could easily have learned more for Chris Paul than he ever could from KD, even if Durant is regarded as a better player historically.
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Post#200 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:10 am

HMFFL wrote:Lebron teaming up with Wemby and KD is what I would like to see happen now. Two of the greatest basketball minds to play leading Wemby to success would be fun to watch.


This wouldn’t even be possible on nba2k, but kudos on out of box thinking…

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