Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers

[Calvin Klein]

So CP was the first one to post something right? If that was the case, he definitely did it to make the Clippers look as bad as possible

[Slimjimzv]

The report that Lue hasn't spoken to CP3 in "weeks" is pathetic. Dude, you're the head coach. Get in there and work on resolution!

So, one of the complaints if you want to call it about Lue is that he's not an intense guy, he's very laid back, and that can be good and bad. It can help in some situations, but you need balance.

https://youtube.com/shorts/96vxX1YJlZE?si=odWj4WihiioQT5_Q

CP3 is not laid back. If a team is meeting expectations and winning, etc, these kinds of personalities can coexist. If the team is struggling and basically nose diving like the Clippers have been, the leader (in this case Lue) has to also be great at collaboration and conflict management to prevent the personalities from clashing.

Obviously with a report about them not speaking, he's not great at those things, so this is the result.

Going into the season, they obviously expected to be a solid team, and therefore they weren't even mentally prepared to have to address clashes of this degree, but that's has been far from the case.

I can empathize with how frustrating this season must be for Lue and others in Clippers leadership, but this IS the job. I get paid a fraction of what any of them make, and it's my responsibility to identify conflict and potential conflict and engage in resolution immediately. Yes, sometimes you have to wind up parting ways, but that should never be the FIRST step. Reports are that CP3 tried to set a meeting with Lue and Lue refused. That's absolutely abysmal leadership.

[og15]

I mean, how can CP not realize that he was going to a team with Harden, Beal and Kawhi? Not the best at being held accountable.

No idea about the situation with Ty Lue. Things went south very fast

He already had issues with Harden not wanting to be held accountable for off ball movement and action in Houston, but maybe they felt it was different time, different role.

Haslem had a role like this on Miami, but Haslem was an OG there and had the support of the management to be on guys and keep them accountable. CP being old and no longer good and without the backing of the coaching and management can't really take on that role on a team with the personalities that the Clippers have.

[canada_dry]

We don’t really know if he’s an all-time **** or not. So many speculations here. He had previous issues with Harden and the clips suck. Straight up the Clippers deserve their record for trying to buy players and circumvent the salary cap.

I do want CP3 to join OKC, win a championship and retire. Would be nice.

The nba on prime guys teased blake about his dislike of cp3 just last week.

Do you remember when cp3 lead the rockets players through certain passageways through the clippers arena that only he would know to try to reach the clippers lockerroom to literally fight after his first game back against the clippers? The cops had to be called.

The clippers guys like blake and dj HATED him by the end there.

You think it was just the rockets? Lmao

Cp3 is a jackass of the highest degree and grates people everywhere he goes.

Suns too. That wasnt pretty on many levels. Ayton. The breakup and fallout with isiah.

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[Calvin Klein]

On the suns...

I don't know of any problems he had while on the Suns.

[John Murdoch]

He still is a good game manager ala Tyus Jones or somethin at this point . Maybe new york?

[og15]

So, one of the complaints if you want to call it about Lue is that he's not an intense guy, he's very laid back, and that can be good and bad. It can help in some situations, but you need balance.

https://youtube.com/shorts/96vxX1YJlZE?si=odWj4WihiioQT5_Q

CP3 is not laid back. If a team is meeting expectations and winning, etc, these kinds of personalities can coexist. If the team is struggling and basically nose diving like the Clippers have been, the leader (in this case Lue) has to also be great at collaboration and conflict management to prevent the personalities from clashing.

Obviously with a report about them not speaking, he's not great at those things, so this is the result.

Going into the season, they obviously expected to be a solid team, and therefore they weren't even mentally prepared to have to address clashes of this degree, but that's has been far from the case.

I can empathize with how frustrating this season must be for Lue and others in Clippers leadership, but this IS the job. I get paid a fraction of what any of them make, and it's my responsibility to identify conflict and potential conflict and engage in resolution immediately. Yes, sometimes you have to wind up parting ways, but that should never be the FIRST step. Reports are that CP3 tried to set a meeting with Lue and Lue refused. That's absolutely abysmal leadership.

I didn't hear about that, and if that is the case and true, then yes, you are correct, that is pretty bad for leader to do.

[og15]

On the suns...

I don't know of any problems he had while on the Suns.

DeAndre Ayton didn't like him telling him to stop falling asleep on the court

[Slimjimzv]

So, one of the complaints if you want to call it about Lue is that he's not an intense guy, he's very laid back, and that can be good and bad. It can help in some situations, but you need balance.

https://youtube.com/shorts/96vxX1YJlZE?si=odWj4WihiioQT5_Q

CP3 is not laid back. If a team is meeting expectations and winning, etc, these kinds of personalities can coexist. If the team is struggling and basically nose diving like the Clippers have been, the leader (in this case Lue) has to also be great at collaboration and conflict management to prevent the personalities from clashing.

Obviously with a report about them not speaking, he's not great at those things, so this is the result.

Going into the season, they obviously expected to be a solid team, and therefore they weren't even mentally prepared to have to address clashes of this degree, but that's has been far from the case.

I can empathize with how frustrating this season must be for Lue and others in Clippers leadership, but this IS the job. I get paid a fraction of what any of them make, and it's my responsibility to identify conflict and potential conflict and engage in resolution immediately. Yes, sometimes you have to wind up parting ways, but that should never be the FIRST step. Reports are that CP3 tried to set a meeting with Lue and Lue refused. That's absolutely abysmal leadership.

I didn't hear about that, and if that is the case and true, then yes, you are correct, that is pretty bad for leader to do.

Saw it from Bleacher Report (@ChrisBHaynes on X).

[canada_dry]

On the suns...

I don't know of any problems he had while on the Suns.

Ayton. That was cancerous in the lockerroom. I know its ayton. But guess what? Its cp3.

The breakup wasnt pretty either. Had a fallout with ownership and zeke. Straight up publicly blamed zeke for shipping his ass out to washington lol

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[ConSarnit]

Is there any benefit to releasing CP3?

Getting him out of the lockerrom.

Dude is an all-time a**hole. I imagine there's a reason he got booted early.

This.

I've never been a CP fan, there's a reason he jumped around with teams so much. He had a Kobe level attitude without the Kobe level hardware or accolades to back it up.

Talented, sure, but he never did anything of significance in his career outside of put up good stats and berate teammates over missed assignments. If he hadn't calmed that down when he's in year 20 and barely NBA playable anymore... I would have booted him too, even if he was a fan favorite. By this age and this diminished of a skill level, you need to be pivoting to that mentorship nurturing role, not being a Grade A prick to the coaches and teammates because of missed assignments or schemes you don't agree with.

Paul was one of the dirties, floppiest and whiniest players in the NBA to go along with being a complete red ass in the lockerroom.

I could care less the Clippers waived him. He did it too himself, he could have gracefully went off into the sunset on the team he had the longest tenure with, but instead just was acting like he was still 2013 CP3. I'll never understand why people put him in so high regard as one of the Top 3 (for some people GOAT) PGs of all time.

Good riddance.

I just listened to the Lou Williams interview and it seems like it might not just be CP3 being a dick. Lou Will reported that CP3 had been critical of the team but that he went about it in a respectful way. He said the final straw was when CP3 went after the front office. Now who knows what that means. If CP3 was criticizing their signings (and by association criticizing/implying some of the current players are bad/washed) then CP3 probably deserves to go. But if the Lou Will reporting is correct (he seems to be plugged into the Clippers) it doesn’t seem like a case of Paul just being a dick if he was actually being respectful and putting forth constructive criticism.

[PistolPeteJR]

#1 Lakers got exposed already by OKC. Not a real contender.
#2 OKC is his only option if he wants a championship.
#3 Denver probably his 2nd best option, but OKC still the favorites.

The same way Chicago exposed Miami in 2011 in the regular season?

The point isn't that the Lakers are contenders, the point is that leaning on a game played in November without the Lakers' 2nd or 3rd best player and a bunch of new pieces on the team vs the current champions who have plenty of team continuity is probably a bit premature.

And to clarify, not saying there's a chance the Lakers are better than OKC, what I'm saying is dubbing the Lakers as having been "exposed" in November is very premature.

OKC also had their 2nd best player out and Williams as this point is a much better player than Lebron.

Lakers loss in rd 1 last year despite being the favorites. They will win a lot of games but get exposed in the playoffs when you have to play defense.

OKC/Denver/Houston are the only true contenders out West.

You completely missed the point if your response is, “JDub was out too”.

Like I said in my initial response, saying Team A “exposed” Team B considering all of the context (ie. November game, one team with continuity and one not, one game sample size, missing cog, etc.) is unwise.

[ryguy613]

So CP was the first one to post something right? If that was the case, he definitely did it to make the Clippers look as bad as possible

bro they told him to get **** in the middle of night on the road during his "farewell tour". Why would he stay quiet and make believe the organization treated him with respect. they didnt earn that.

[og15]

Getting him out of the lockerrom.

Dude is an all-time a**hole. I imagine there's a reason he got booted early.

This.

I've never been a CP fan, there's a reason he jumped around with teams so much. He had a Kobe level attitude without the Kobe level hardware or accolades to back it up.

Talented, sure, but he never did anything of significance in his career outside of put up good stats and berate teammates over missed assignments. If he hadn't calmed that down when he's in year 20 and barely NBA playable anymore... I would have booted him too, even if he was a fan favorite. By this age and this diminished of a skill level, you need to be pivoting to that mentorship nurturing role, not being a Grade A prick to the coaches and teammates because of missed assignments or schemes you don't agree with.

Paul was one of the dirties, floppiest and whiniest players in the NBA to go along with being a complete red ass in the lockerroom.

I could care less the Clippers waived him. He did it too himself, he could have gracefully went off into the sunset on the team he had the longest tenure with, but instead just was acting like he was still 2013 CP3. I'll never understand why people put him in so high regard as one of the Top 3 (for some people GOAT) PGs of all time.

Good riddance.

I just listened to the Lou Williams interview and it seems like it might not just be CP3 being a dick. Lou Will reported that CP3 had been critical of the team but that he went about it in a respectful way. He said the final straw was when CP3 went after the front office. Now who knows what that means. If CP3 was criticizing their signings (and by association criticizing/implying some of the current players are bad/washed) then CP3 probably deserves to go. But if the Lou Will reporting is correct (he seems to be plugged into the Clippers) it doesn’t seem like a case of Paul just being a dick if he was actually being respectful and putting forth constructive criticism.

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[ConSarnit]

I can empathize with how frustrating this season must be for Lue and others in Clippers leadership, but this IS the job. I get paid a fraction of what any of them make, and it's my responsibility to identify conflict and potential conflict and engage in resolution immediately. Yes, sometimes you have to wind up parting ways, but that should never be the FIRST step. Reports are that CP3 tried to set a meeting with Lue and Lue refused. That's absolutely abysmal leadership.

I didn't hear about that, and if that is the case and true, then yes, you are correct, that is pretty bad for leader to do.

Saw it from Bleacher Report (@ChrisBHaynes on X).

Lou Williams was also reporting that CP3 was being respectful while criticizing the team. He only got ousted once he went after management.

A lot of this looks bad for the Clippers (Lue and the front office). It’s tough to tell who’s really at fault given CP3’s dick-ish nature but the reporting is not making the Clippers look good.

[canada_dry]

Getting him out of the lockerrom.

Dude is an all-time a**hole. I imagine there's a reason he got booted early.

This.

I've never been a CP fan, there's a reason he jumped around with teams so much. He had a Kobe level attitude without the Kobe level hardware or accolades to back it up.

Talented, sure, but he never did anything of significance in his career outside of put up good stats and berate teammates over missed assignments. If he hadn't calmed that down when he's in year 20 and barely NBA playable anymore... I would have booted him too, even if he was a fan favorite. By this age and this diminished of a skill level, you need to be pivoting to that mentorship nurturing role, not being a Grade A prick to the coaches and teammates because of missed assignments or schemes you don't agree with.

Paul was one of the dirties, floppiest and whiniest players in the NBA to go along with being a complete red ass in the lockerroom.

I could care less the Clippers waived him. He did it too himself, he could have gracefully went off into the sunset on the team he had the longest tenure with, but instead just was acting like he was still 2013 CP3. I'll never understand why people put him in so high regard as one of the Top 3 (for some people GOAT) PGs of all time.

Good riddance.

I just listened to the Lou Williams interview and it seems like it might not just be CP3 being a dick. Lou Will reported that CP3 had been critical of the team but that he went about it in a respectful way. He said the final straw was when CP3 went after the front office. Now who knows what that means. If CP3 was criticizing their signings (and by association criticizing/implying some of the current players are bad/washed) then CP3 probably deserves to go. But if the Lou Will reporting is correct (he seems to be plugged into the Clippers) it doesn’t seem like a case of Paul just being a dick if he was actually being respectful and putting forth constructive criticism.

Yeah that doesn't seem right.

Chris paul wouldn't have had to issue an apology at some point if he was going about it respectfully. Which has been reported.

This is just a player standing up for another player.

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[KokoKaizer]

He still is a good game manager ala Tyus Jones or somethin at this point . Maybe new york?

You obviously didn't watch Jones on the Magic

[hauntedcomputer]

I'm content to accept that both CP# and Clippers are dickheads.

[canada_dry]

I'm content to accept that both CP# and Clippers are dickheads.

Thats all it is. No winners here.

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[G R E Y]

Jesus.

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