2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West First Round: #4 Denver Nuggets vs #5 LA Clippers (Series tied 2-2)

[Handlez]

Jokic haters gotta be down bad.

He's got them tied with a serious contender that has more talent.

How TF will Jokic haters deal with life if he wins this series?

[AmIWrongDude]

Lakers fans hating on Jokic what more do you want to be happy? Do you need yet another superstar gifted to you?

Where is this even happening? I see 0 posts from Laker fans hating on Jokic and 5 complaining about Laker fans hating on Jokic

[Scoundreldays]

Atleast I don't have to worry about a 3-1 curse. Kawhi and Harden have to do better

[Duffman100]

The ball was through the net. That was an easy call

His hand was still touching the ball

It was already a made basket though. It's not the same as a jumper. The basket already counted the moment it went past the rim. The fingertip stuff is irrelevant at that point.

This is just what Im' curious about. We're so use to the jumper rule of touching it.

How does it work with dunks.

[djsunyc]

kawhi bricking those 2 threes will be forgotten

[KyRo23]

The ball was through the net. That was an easy call

His hand was still touching the ball

It was a matter of whether the ball was through the hoop at the time of the buzzer. Hand placement is irrelevant in that

That is not the rule. The ref said it was out of his hand before the red light. You cannot be touching the ball at any time after the buzzer. Hand placement is 100% the reasoning on the call

[DLoMor]

Ty Lues horrible coaching cost Clippers the game again.

[Mk0]

I love how Lakers/Lebron stans are trying to minimize Jokic's impact.

[Iwasawitness]

So if that was a three point shot and the ball was on the shooters finger tip when time expired, it should count?

C'mon now

That's not what I'm saying.

In this case the ball was already through the hoop.

Ball through hoop in time = basket.

The only thing that's debatable is if Gordon's fingertip was still on top of the ball or not.

What I'm saying is that is that this should be considered inconsequential in a scenario when the ball has already gone through the hoop before the buzzer.

I needed a laugh, thanks.

Not sure what you're laughing about, he's right.

[Duffman100]

He can't be touching it at the buzzer. I get why people might think that's a dumb rule...but it's the rule.

Curious though, say he was even higher and still touching it as the ball was almost through the net, still not a bucket?

It HAS to be out of the hands even if it's through the net?

Believe a make is only after the ball completely clears the rim. In this case, it didnt yet

It was damn close to clearing the rim.

[Patches Perry]

If the 2 minute report comes out and admits an error, the Clippers definitely have grounds to contest. That was the last play of the game regardless of how it was called, and the call decided the game.

I think we all (aside from Clippers fans/Nuggets haters) want this series at 2-2 rather than 3-1 though.

[ky_23]

LeBron would be getting killed for air balling the final shot even after playing great

and? does it make it right for jokic to get hate for every missed oppurtunity. lebron used to get unecessesary hate and so does jokic now and it doesn't make it any sense, it just proves this guys too great that people focused on their every single mistake

LeBron got hate because he started ring chasing at 26.

he led his team to the finals at 22 which was the worst roster evert to play a finals game. fo couldn't build a roster around him for 7 years and he left for a better roster. its been 15 years get over it

[uncleduck13]

Jokic haters gotta be down bad.

He's got them tied with a serious contender that has more talent.

How TF will Jokic haters deal with life if he wins this series?

If he pulls this off he can never be questioned bc the Clippers are clearly the better team and it’s not close.

[PushDaRock]

On the BBALLBREAKDOWN replay which looks the best so far, when the light turns on, it looks BARELY out of his fingertips. You can see the separation but again it's really **** close.

I think so as well but I can't say it's 100% definitive. Without an above the rim cam, don't think anyone can really.

[Duffman100]

His hand was still touching the ball

It was a matter of whether the ball was through the hoop at the time of the buzzer. Hand placement is irrelevant in that

That is not the rule. The ref said it was out of his hand before the red light. You cannot be touching the ball at any time after the buzzer. Hand placement is 100% the reasoning on the call

So for the fun of it, at the extreme level. What if some freaky person like Wemby takes the ball, puts it through the rim and his entire arm is extended down, but he's palming it. Holding it through the rim was the buzzer goes off.

Doesn't count?

[Mk0]

Jokic haters gotta be down bad.

He's got them tied with a serious contender that has more talent.

How TF will Jokic haters deal with life if he wins this series?

If he pulls this off he can never be questioned bc the Clippers are clearly the better team and it’s not close.

Yeah but Denver has the better coach. Jokic ran circles around Lue tonight.

[Nuntius]

Man, I don't know what to make of this last basket.

Let's remind ourselves one thing: The initial ruling on the floor was that the basket was good. What that means is that you know need solid evidence to overturn the call and disallow the basket. You need solid proof that Gordon's hand was touching the ball when time expired.

And, frankly, this play is so **** close that I do not believe that anyone can solidly prove whether Gordon was touching the ball when time expired or not. The rim and the net are in the way and there's no way to definitively tell unless there's a camera angle from the top of the board or something.

My guess is that if the initial ruling was "no good" then they wouldn't be able to overturn it either. It's just way too close to overturn one way or the other.

I will say this: I would NOT want to be the ref to make that call. That is a huge call with massive implications on what is essentially a coin-flip.

[f4p]

The ball was through the net. That was an easy call

His hand was still touching the ball

It was already a made basket though. It's not the same as a jumper. The basket already counted the moment it went past the rim. The fingertip stuff is irrelevant at that point.

Well normal shots don't count until they are all the way through the net. That's why you occasionally see a ball bounce off someone's head and go back through and it doesn't count. But where the ball needs to be to be counted as a shot and whether someone can be touching it is a different matter. The fact zarba said it was out of his hands makes me think Gordon could not be touching it and it still count.

[sp6r=underrated]

Left hand is off completely, can't tell if right hand is still on, if it is it's barely. I would just give tie to the runner in that case but almost impossible to call unless there was like an under rim cam

This looks like Harden comitted clear foul before time expired. It should have been and1

It is debatable whether it went through in time but there was a foul on the play which unquestionably happened before the clock expired.

So even if you think shot shouldn't have counted, Denver was still entitled to 2 FTS.

[Handlez]

Jokic haters gotta be down bad.

He's got them tied with a serious contender that has more talent.

How TF will Jokic haters deal with life if he wins this series?

If he pulls this off he can never be questioned bc the Clippers are clearly the better team and it’s not close.

If he wins this series, I may put him in the top 10 all time.