Durant II - Durant to GSW

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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1822 » by Ganji » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:43 pm

baller16 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/BallersHype/status/750051530200403968[/tweet]

If this happens, it's going to be so damn hilarious.

well then you hire some looser who will never play in NBA, sign him to minimum contract, and when you play okc, just break Durants leg in that case. that would be the last time some1 would try to pull DeAndreBmove.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1823 » by JJ_PR » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:45 pm

Isn't there a rule about verbal agreements? I don't think Durant can just go out and change his mind.
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Post#1824 » by criteriado » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:45 pm

Btw,if Durant was thinking of leaving, he should have given a heads up to OKC, now they have 23 million on capspace to spend on no freaking one because every decent player is **** gone.

They have Kyle Singler starting at SF. Good lord.

And now try to convince Westbrook with a bunch of role players when you could have had at least a very good player with that capspace. He just destroyed that franchise.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1825 » by Ganji » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:46 pm

anways OKC fans don't deserve him anyways

you had this

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now you have this

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nobody here would get to that low level imo, rings are nice, but warriors games are awesome on their own.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1826 » by Ganji » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:47 pm

JJ_PR wrote:Isn't there a rule about verbal agreements? I don't think Durant can just go out and change his mind.

no there is no rule, it just bad business. remember whole DeAndre debacle last year?
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1827 » by gustofwind » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:49 pm

Tai wrote:
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floppymoose wrote:
You can argue the monopoly part. We'll have to wait and see how they do. A reason why they play the games, etc.

But the second part is completely false. KD is the one who left OKC. GS did not force him, and had no way to force him, to do anything. If he had gone to Boston would you be saying that Boston "destroyed a small market franchise"? If so, I think both assertions are equally wrong.



I hear your position, but respectfully disagree. GS know full well the consequences of Durant leaving. Their hands are just as bloody as Durant's hands. They went after Durant hard, it's not as if they reluctantly embraced him. I think we all should be held accountable not just for being successful, but also helping to create a better and more ethical world. There is a way to be competitive yourself without destroying opportunities for others.


I'm legit very close to sigging this and being done with this, and considering who's in my sig now I think you understand that's not a compliment.

What do you mean the Warriors' hands are "bloody"? Cause they wanted Durant? Cause god forbid they wanted a highly touted FA, if not THE highly touted FA this off-season. Why wouldn't the Warriors go hard for Durant? Why would they "reluctantly embrace" Durant? At the end of the day, Durant was a FREE agent who was FREE to go to whatever team would take him. It'd be one thing if he took a paycut to join the Warriors, but Durant will be paid around $27m/yr, which is why they had to let Barnes go and then trade Bogut. Maybe a small sacrifice at the end of the day to get another superstar, but it is something. How does this mean ethics were broken?

Maybe you misunderstood floopymoose's point that the Durant and Warriors wanting to be being together was mutual. If Durant wanted to go for the Warriors over the Thunder, then good for the Warriors, boo hoo for the Thunder. Yea, an opportunity to continue to compete was taken away from them, but that's life in the NBA. Happened to Cleveland the 1st time with Lebron, so be it. I can't re-call who said this to you, but I agree with him: I don't know if you would have reacted like this if Durant chose Boston, and even if you did, you'd still be dead wrong. Warriors have NOTHING to feel sorry for. NOTHING. I'm not saying you have to like it, but that doesn't make the Warriors malicious or unethical.


I believe we should be respectful to each other when we engage in conversation. I don't feel this is a respectful post. There is a way to voice disagreement with others without trying to demean them.

You're position is a perfectly fine one, but I disagree. I believe that Durant signing with GSW is bad for the league. Some disagree.

As for your questions, I've written enough about this topic and have very little else to add.

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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1828 » by WinisKing » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:49 pm

This is actually much worse than Lebron in 2010

Doesn't is joining a 73 win team that had a championship, and just beat his team in a close OKC after he himself chokes away g6 and 7. This team has more established stars than the heat big 3.

Also Lebron was leaving a team whose second best player is Mo **** William, not Westbrook. Big difference.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1829 » by Bandeazyy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:49 pm

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Bandeazyy wrote:so reading all these nonsense from this thread...we were suppose to just completely ignore KD being a RFA due to the fact that we were a 73 win team and pay Harrison the max and ruin our pay structure. hmm makes total sense


Who is blasting the Warriors here? This is great for them, godawful for the league, tho.

We are blasting Durant.


You can blast who ever you want, bottomline is he's a RFA and has the rights to choose where he wants to go to. Tough pill for OKC to swallow but they had their chances...BUNCH of chances to keep him.
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Post#1830 » by Hero » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:52 pm

xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:So whats the point of even watching anymore?

Warriors/Cavs are going to make the next two finals...maybe more if LeBron can keep it going.


This is the problem. I would push for a lockout if I'm a NBA owner.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1831 » by JJ_PR » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:53 pm

criteriado wrote:Btw,if Durant was thinking of leaving, he should have given a heads up to OKC, now they have 23 million on capspace to spend on no freaking one because every decent player is **** gone.

They have Kyle Singler starting at SF. Good lord.

And now try to convince Westbrook with a bunch of role players when you could have had at least a very good player with that capspace. He just destroyed that franchise.


Well, this free agent class wasn't particularly deep. Who'd you want? Timofey Mozgov? Most SF's stayed with their respective teams aside from Luol Deng (pretty old) and Jeff Green. Don't think you'd want either of those guys at that price. Ditto for Barnes and his 20m/yr contract.

Next years free agent class is much deeper I think.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1832 » by criteriado » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:53 pm

Bandeazyy wrote:
criteriado wrote:
Bandeazyy wrote:so reading all these nonsense from this thread...we were suppose to just completely ignore KD being a RFA due to the fact that we were a 73 win team and pay Harrison the max and ruin our pay structure. hmm makes total sense


Who is blasting the Warriors here? This is great for them, godawful for the league, tho.

We are blasting Durant.


You can blast who ever you want, bottomline is he's a RFA and has the rights to choose where he wants to go to. Tough pill for OKC to swallow but they had their chances...BUNCH of chances to keep him.


Well, yeah. Of course he can do it.

He just went 10-34 on a closeout game with game-deciding turnovers and then joined the team that he choked against. A team that won 73 games. Just amazing to me. I've never seen something like this.
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Post#1833 » by nymets1 » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:54 pm

Down go the Thunder, They won't make the playoffs. And Warriors they went 73 and 9 in the regular season last year, They'll break that record again this year as long as no major injury. Westbrook should consider coming to the Magic. Westbrook won't go to the Lakers, they won't be good for several years at least. Westbrook can't go to Clippers either.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1834 » by floppymoose » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:54 pm

Optimus_Steel wrote:Keep in mind the only reason this is possible is: completely weird and unusual situation where the cap jumps substantially in one year giving most teams in the league more unexpected cap space, & Steph is severely underpaid. The owners locked out the players to avoid things like this to happen but look now this happened because of their agreement lmao.


The lockout had zero to do with this. It was entirely about shifting 7.5% of BRI from players to owners. Nothing else was a showstopper on the wishlist for the owners.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1835 » by GregOden » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:55 pm

Ganji wrote:
baller16 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/BallersHype/status/750051530200403968[/tweet]

If this happens, it's going to be so damn hilarious.

well then you hire some looser who will never play in NBA, sign him to minimum contract, and when you play okc, just break Durants leg in that case. that would be the last time some1 would try to pull DeAndreBmove.


No superstar would ever do that because the vast majority of their earnings come from sponsorships. What do you think is going to happen to your brand value among sponsors if the public perception is you would violate a verbal contract in order to backstab someone for a minor advantage in sports--essentially seen as a cheat?
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Post#1836 » by Cavaliers2 » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:56 pm

criteriado wrote:Btw,if Durant was thinking of leaving, he should have given a heads up to OKC, now they have 23 million on capspace to spend on no freaking one because every decent player is **** gone.

They have Kyle Singler starting at SF. Good lord.

And now try to convince Westbrook with a bunch of role players when you could have had at least a very good player with that capspace. He just destroyed that franchise.

What do you mean theres no one to spend it on....they can just sign Dion and they will be fine
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1837 » by criteriado » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:56 pm

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criteriado wrote:Btw,if Durant was thinking of leaving, he should have given a heads up to OKC, now they have 23 million on capspace to spend on no freaking one because every decent player is **** gone.

They have Kyle Singler starting at SF. Good lord.

And now try to convince Westbrook with a bunch of role players when you could have had at least a very good player with that capspace. He just destroyed that franchise.


Well, this free agent class wasn't particularly deep? Who'd you want? Timofey Mozgov? Most SF's stayed with their respective teams aside from Luol Deng (pretty old) and Jeff Green. Don't think you'd want either of those guys at that price.

Next years free agent class is much deeper I think.



Luol Deng will help you win a lot more than Kyle Singler, especially when you need to convince Westbrook. If you can go to the 2nd round, with your team winning 52-53 games and competing...you might be able to keep him.

Now.....it's looking real bleak.

I'm a fan of a small market, I really hated the Thunder, but this hits home. I just hate it.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1838 » by Ganji » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:56 pm

GregOden wrote:No superstar would ever do that because the vast majority of their earnings come from sponsorships. What do you think is going to happen to your brand value among sponsors if the public perception is you would violate a verbal contract in order to backstab someone for a minor advantage in sports--essentially seen as a cheat?


DeAndre did it... so the door is open.
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Post#1839 » by Bandeazyy » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:58 pm

criteriado wrote:
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Who is blasting the Warriors here? This is great for them, godawful for the league, tho.

We are blasting Durant.


You can blast who ever you want, bottomline is he's a RFA and has the rights to choose where he wants to go to. Tough pill for OKC to swallow but they had their chances...BUNCH of chances to keep him.


Well, yeah. Of course he can do it.

He just went 10-34 on a closeout game with game-deciding turnovers and then joined the team that he choked against. A team that won 73 games. Just amazing to me. I've never seen something like this.


I see where you're coming from. When you really think about it though, If he was going to leave for a "better" team, there really isn't much of an option. Most of his other options are just hopes and dreams while we were pretty much just a straight slot for him and nothing much to it.
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Re: Durant II - Durant to GSW 

Post#1840 » by JJ_PR » Mon Jul 4, 2016 10:58 pm

nymets1 wrote:Down go the Thunder, They won't make the playoffs. And Warriors they went 73 and 9 in the regular season last year, They'll break that record again this year as long as no major injury. Westbrook should consider coming to the Magic. Westbrook won't go to the Lakers, they won't be good for several years at least. Westbrook can't go to Clippers either.


I would love to see Westbrook to Orlando happen, they're a point guard away from being top 5 in the east.

Russell / Payton
Fournier
Hezonja / Green
Ibaka / Gordon
Vucevic / Biyombo

That's a heck of a lineup.

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