So how about Joel Embiid

[nbafan341]

Plz relax with this lol. Not even diehard Sixers fans are drinking anywhere near this amount of Koolaid.

Like I said, it would be very unlikely for the sixers to beat the cavs. Do you not agree? The playoffs are not out of reach for the sixers and if they do squeeze in, theyll be playing against the cavs who suck at matching bigs and teams with defensive bigs who rebound well.

Why hijack the thread with this nonsense?

Like I said, It would be very unlikely, what's so wrong about that? 1st round series csn be competitive even for the nba champs. atlanta put up a good fight and was a nightmare matchup for the celtics many years back in 08 or 09. mavericks lost to a rising golden state warriors team. The sixers are on the rise, embiid gets Better every game that he plays and simmons is on the return similar to gsw's return of baron davis.

[BullyKing]

76ers should throw HUGE 2yr deals at some role players. 60 mil in cap I think I read above?

2yrs 28 mil for Justin Holiday
2yrs 50 mil for JJ Redick (not sure how much he will get though I assume clippers would offer a 3-4 yr deal and hed probably take that)
2yrs 20 mil for Terrance Jones (if jahlil is traded and Nerlens re-signs at 4/80ish)
2yrs 20 mil for Anthony Morrow

Players would clearly take that money for 2 years on a upcoming 76ers team (maybe not reddick). Plus you get your top 5 first rounder and maybe a lakers 4-7 pick.

Absolutely don't do this, Philly.

They did it last year but players turned it down. Why not bring in legit role players for 2 years while all the young guys are on rookie deals? They will want to start getting back to the playoffs next year for sure. It would be the smartest thing to do.

No, the smartest thing to do would be to offer max contracts to every worthwhile player until you get one that accepts and isn't matched if an RFA. The next year or two is the time left to sign a third star to pair with JoJo and Simmons before their extensions start coming due. Foregoing that opportunity to overplay role players is literally the dumbest thing they could do at this point.

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[bulliedog8]

Absolutely don't do this, Philly.

They did it last year but players turned it down. Why not bring in legit role players for 2 years while all the young guys are on rookie deals? They will want to start getting back to the playoffs next year for sure. It would be the smartest thing to do.

No, the smartest thing to do would be to offer max contracts to every worthwhile player until you get one that accepts and isn't matched if an RFA. The next year or two is the time left to sign a third star to pair with JoJo and Simmons before their extensions start coming due. Foregoing that opportunity to overplay role players is literally the dumbest thing they could do at this point.

Who this year would you throw maxes at? The player list I had above is just an example.

KCP, Otto Porter, Durant, Curry, Lowry, cp0 and Hayward will all get maxes. So offer all them and hope wizards or Pistons dont match? I dont see the other 4 leaving.

If anything, then overpay for 1yr rentals and go for it in 2018 with Lavine, Wiggins, Jabari, etc though their teams will match. I dont see many stars leaving their teams.

[BullyKing]

They did it last year but players turned it down. Why not bring in legit role players for 2 years while all the young guys are on rookie deals? They will want to start getting back to the playoffs next year for sure. It would be the smartest thing to do.

No, the smartest thing to do would be to offer max contracts to every worthwhile player until you get one that accepts and isn't matched if an RFA. The next year or two is the time left to sign a third star to pair with JoJo and Simmons before their extensions start coming due. Foregoing that opportunity to overplay role players is literally the dumbest thing they could do at this point.

Who this year would you throw maxes at? The player list I had above is just an example.

KCP, Otto Porter, Durant, Curry, Lowry, cp0 and Hayward will all get maxes. So offer all them and hope wizards or Pistons dont match? I dont see the other 4 leaving.

If anything, then overpay for 1yr rentals and go for it in 2018 with Lavine, Wiggins, Jabari, etc though their teams will match. I dont see many stars leaving their teams.

Yeah, you've got it and while I agree that most will not leave it's worth the chance in both 2017 and 2018. If you strike out in both, there will still be role players to overplay in 2018 after the stars have signed.

[The_Hater]

They did it last year but players turned it down. Why not bring in legit role players for 2 years while all the young guys are on rookie deals? They will want to start getting back to the playoffs next year for sure. It would be the smartest thing to do.

No, the smartest thing to do would be to offer max contracts to every worthwhile player until you get one that accepts and isn't matched if an RFA. The next year or two is the time left to sign a third star to pair with JoJo and Simmons before their extensions start coming due. Foregoing that opportunity to overplay role players is literally the dumbest thing they could do at this point.

Who this year would you throw maxes at? The player list I had above is just an example.

KCP, Otto Porter, Durant, Curry, Lowry, cp0 and Hayward will all get maxes. So offer all them and hope wizards or Pistons dont match? I dont see the other 4 leaving.

If anything, then overpay for 1yr rentals and go for it in 2018 with Lavine, Wiggins, Jabari, etc though their teams will match. I dont see many stars leaving their teams.

The max is such an astronomical number this year that many of those players, while surely getting huge contracts, aren't getting 'the max'. Just like Giannis and Oladipo and Fournier and a bunch of others didn't get close to what was a lower max amount last summer.

And while most free agents do ultimately stay where they are, some major players switch teams every summer.

[MotownMadness]

Everyone laughed at the Sixers and now their future looks incredibly bright. I couldn't see them making up enough ground to get in the playoffs this year with that roster but if they manage to keep Embiid healthy, get Simmons back healthy they will be competing for tops of the Eastern Conference here in the next 2-3 years. Embiid is just that good to carry this franchise in a couple years.

[Disabled Sports]

Even though Joel Embiid's NBA career is off to a phenomenal start, it is bound to tail off because of Ben Simmons. During the first half of his rookie season, Joel Embiid displayed a diverse plan of attack when it came to scoring the basketball. For instance, Embiid usually received the ball at or behind the three point line, once that happens he will evaluate where his defender is. For example, if the defender is close to him, he will take a few steps towards the basket to see whether the defender sags off. If he does, Embiid will shoot the mid-range jumper but if the defender doesn't he will post up or continue his drive to the basket. On the other hand, if the defender chooses to sag off initially he will shoot the wide open three.

However, this diversity will be taken away once Ben Simmons steps on the floor. This is because Simmons needs to play in an offensive system that showcases his ability to pass the ball and get to the basket. As a result of this, the Philadelphia 76ers will be forced to adopt an offensive system similar to that of the Cleveland Cavaliers with Lebron James. Where the paint is relatively empty giving Simmons the option and freedom to pass or attack the basket depending on what the defense is showing. For instance, if the defense decides to collapse he will most likely pass it to the perimeter for an open shot or pass it to a player who is cutting towards the basket. If they do not, he will shoot a jumper or drive depending on whether the defense sags off or plays close to him. As a result, Embiid won't be able to post up or attack the basket as much because defenses will collapse on Simmons giving him a wide open three, Simmons chooses to score or Simmons will pass him the ball with the shot clock running down. All these factors should lead to Embiid becoming primarily a spot up shooter in the next year or two which should reduce his effectiveness.

http://disabledsports.sportsblog.com/posts/31604384/joel-embiid-should-be-reduced-to-a-3-point-shooter-within-1-or-2-years.html

[phifans]

Even though Joel Embiid's NBA career is off to a phenomenal start, it is bound to tail off because of Ben Simmons. During the first half of his rookie season, Joel Embiid displayed a diverse plan of attack when it came to scoring the basketball. For instance, Embiid usually received the ball at or behind the three point line, once that happens he will evaluate where his defender is. For example, if the defender is close to him, he will take a few steps towards the basket to see whether the defender sags off. If he does, Embiid will shoot the mid-range jumper but if the defender doesn't he will post up or continue his drive to the basket. On the other hand, if the defender chooses to sag off initially he will shoot the wide open three.

However, this diversity will be taken away once Ben Simmons steps on the floor. This is because Simmons needs to play in an offensive system that showcases his ability to pass the ball and get to the basket. As a result of this, the Philadelphia 76ers will be forced to adopt an offensive system similar to that of the Cleveland Cavaliers with Lebron James. Where the paint is relatively empty giving Simmons the option and freedom to pass or attack the basket depending on what the defense is showing. For instance, if the defense decides to collapse he will most likely pass it to the perimeter for an open shot or pass it to a player who is cutting towards the basket. If they do not, he will shoot a jumper or drive depending on whether the defense sags off or plays close to him. As a result, Embiid won't be able to post up or attack the basket as much because defenses will collapse on Simmons giving him a wide open three, Simmons chooses to score or Simmons will pass him the ball with the shot clock running down. All these factors should lead to Embiid becoming primarily a spot up shooter in the next year or two which should reduce his effectiveness.

http://disabledsports.sportsblog.com/posts/31604384/joel-embiid-should-be-reduced-to-a-3-point-shooter-within-1-or-2-years.html

One of the biggest strength of Simmons is he makes guys around him better. So Im fine with the reducing usage of Embiid once Simmons come back to be the primary handler because Embiid's (and the whole teams') efficiency will increase significantly. Don't forget we are still one of the worst offensive team with Embiid being our only focal point on the court.

[Disabled Sports]

Even though Joel Embiid's NBA career is off to a phenomenal start, it is bound to tail off because of Ben Simmons. During the first half of his rookie season, Joel Embiid displayed a diverse plan of attack when it came to scoring the basketball. For instance, Embiid usually received the ball at or behind the three point line, once that happens he will evaluate where his defender is. For example, if the defender is close to him, he will take a few steps towards the basket to see whether the defender sags off. If he does, Embiid will shoot the mid-range jumper but if the defender doesn't he will post up or continue his drive to the basket. On the other hand, if the defender chooses to sag off initially he will shoot the wide open three.

However, this diversity will be taken away once Ben Simmons steps on the floor. This is because Simmons needs to play in an offensive system that showcases his ability to pass the ball and get to the basket. As a result of this, the Philadelphia 76ers will be forced to adopt an offensive system similar to that of the Cleveland Cavaliers with Lebron James. Where the paint is relatively empty giving Simmons the option and freedom to pass or attack the basket depending on what the defense is showing. For instance, if the defense decides to collapse he will most likely pass it to the perimeter for an open shot or pass it to a player who is cutting towards the basket. If they do not, he will shoot a jumper or drive depending on whether the defense sags off or plays close to him. As a result, Embiid won't be able to post up or attack the basket as much because defenses will collapse on Simmons giving him a wide open three, Simmons chooses to score or Simmons will pass him the ball with the shot clock running down. All these factors should lead to Embiid becoming primarily a spot up shooter in the next year or two which should reduce his effectiveness.

http://disabledsports.sportsblog.com/posts/31604384/joel-embiid-should-be-reduced-to-a-3-point-shooter-within-1-or-2-years.html

One of the biggest strength of Simmons is he makes guys around him better. So Im fine with the reducing usage of Embiid once Simmons come back to be the primary handler because Embiid's (and the whole teams') efficiency will increase significantly. Don't forget we are still one of the worst offensive team with Embiid being our only focal point on the court.

ben simmons will make the overall team better but he has a similar playing style to LBJ and look what LBJ turned bosh/love into

[the_process]

If Embiid gets relegated to a spot up shooter because of Simmons, then Simmons will be moved.

I'm not worried about it right now, I think both guys are plenty talented to figure out how to maximize each other's skill sets.

[The_Hater]

Everyone laughed at the Sixers and now their future looks incredibly bright. I couldn't see them making up enough ground to get in the playoffs this year with that roster but if they manage to keep Embiid healthy, get Simmons back healthy they will be competing for tops of the Eastern Conference here in the next 2-3 years. Embiid is just that good to carry this franchise in a couple years.

Everyone didn't laugh at the Sixers. A large group of people knew that hinkie was building the foundation for a very bright future all along.

How devastating that Colangelo the used car salesman gets to profit off of all that great work.

[bulliedog8]

No, the smartest thing to do would be to offer max contracts to every worthwhile player until you get one that accepts and isn't matched if an RFA. The next year or two is the time left to sign a third star to pair with JoJo and Simmons before their extensions start coming due. Foregoing that opportunity to overplay role players is literally the dumbest thing they could do at this point.

Who this year would you throw maxes at? The player list I had above is just an example.

KCP, Otto Porter, Durant, Curry, Lowry, cp0 and Hayward will all get maxes. So offer all them and hope wizards or Pistons dont match? I dont see the other 4 leaving.

If anything, then overpay for 1yr rentals and go for it in 2018 with Lavine, Wiggins, Jabari, etc though their teams will match. I dont see many stars leaving their teams.

The max is such an astronomical number this year that many of those players, while surely getting huge contracts, aren't getting 'the max'. Just like Giannis and Oladipo and Fournier and a bunch of others didn't get close to what was a lower max amount last summer.

And while most free agents do ultimately stay where they are, some major players switch teams every summer.

To bully too,

my reasoning for overpaying 1-2 years on role players is so it is easier to attract the stars in like 1-2 years since odds are they wouldnt come this offseason for sure. Make the team even more attractive while putting supplementary players (shooters) around embiid and simmons. Thats why I think a Malik Monk would be who the 76ers would want to draft. Unless they get the top pick to get a fultz or tatum who are legit scorers too.

[The_Hater]

Who this year would you throw maxes at? The player list I had above is just an example.

KCP, Otto Porter, Durant, Curry, Lowry, cp0 and Hayward will all get maxes. So offer all them and hope wizards or Pistons dont match? I dont see the other 4 leaving.

If anything, then overpay for 1yr rentals and go for it in 2018 with Lavine, Wiggins, Jabari, etc though their teams will match. I dont see many stars leaving their teams.

The max is such an astronomical number this year that many of those players, while surely getting huge contracts, aren't getting 'the max'. Just like Giannis and Oladipo and Fournier and a bunch of others didn't get close to what was a lower max amount last summer.

And while most free agents do ultimately stay where they are, some major players switch teams every summer.

To bully too,

my reasoning for overpaying 1-2 years on role players is so it is easier to attract the stars in like 1-2 years since odds are they wouldnt come this offseason for sure. Make the team even more attractive while putting supplementary players (shooters) around embiid and simmons. Thats why I think a Malik Monk would be who the 76ers would want to draft. Unless they get the top pick to get a fultz or tatum who are legit scorers too.

Embiid and Simmons are going to attract any stars who decide to come. I've never seen a star player jump teams because he was in love with their role players. and if the role players are in short contracts, doesn't it stand to reason that they won't be around very long to play with any star players who sign later?

[BullyKing]

Who this year would you throw maxes at? The player list I had above is just an example.

KCP, Otto Porter, Durant, Curry, Lowry, cp0 and Hayward will all get maxes. So offer all them and hope wizards or Pistons dont match? I dont see the other 4 leaving.

If anything, then overpay for 1yr rentals and go for it in 2018 with Lavine, Wiggins, Jabari, etc though their teams will match. I dont see many stars leaving their teams.

The max is such an astronomical number this year that many of those players, while surely getting huge contracts, aren't getting 'the max'. Just like Giannis and Oladipo and Fournier and a bunch of others didn't get close to what was a lower max amount last summer.

And while most free agents do ultimately stay where they are, some major players switch teams every summer.

To bully too,

my reasoning for overpaying 1-2 years on role players is so it is easier to attract the stars in like 1-2 years since odds are they wouldnt come this offseason for sure. Make the team even more attractive while putting supplementary players (shooters) around embiid and simmons. Thats why I think a Malik Monk would be who the 76ers would want to draft. Unless they get the top pick to get a fultz or tatum who are legit scorers too.

Well there's two obvious problems with your reasoning:

1. No star is going to be attracted to a team because they have Justin Holiday or any of the other scrubs you suggested.

2. We wouldn't have the cap space to sign a star because of the contract to said scrubs.

[bulliedog8]

The max is such an astronomical number this year that many of those players, while surely getting huge contracts, aren't getting 'the max'. Just like Giannis and Oladipo and Fournier and a bunch of others didn't get close to what was a lower max amount last summer.

And while most free agents do ultimately stay where they are, some major players switch teams every summer.

To bully too,

my reasoning for overpaying 1-2 years on role players is so it is easier to attract the stars in like 1-2 years since odds are they wouldnt come this offseason for sure. Make the team even more attractive while putting supplementary players (shooters) around embiid and simmons. Thats why I think a Malik Monk would be who the 76ers would want to draft. Unless they get the top pick to get a fultz or tatum who are legit scorers too.

Embiid and Simmons are going to attract any stars who decide to come. I've never seen a star player jump teams because he was in love with their role players. and if the role players are in short contracts, doesn't it stand to reason that they won't be around very long to play with any star players who sign later?

Obviously simmons and embiid will be the ones. But no stars will go to a team if they arent good already. The role players are to help out simmons and embiid and then you get rid of them to make room for the stars.

[Sportfan73]

I ask again if Lowry signed with philly and everything else stayed the same who is the 2 seed?


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[The_Hater]

To bully too,

my reasoning for overpaying 1-2 years on role players is so it is easier to attract the stars in like 1-2 years since odds are they wouldnt come this offseason for sure. Make the team even more attractive while putting supplementary players (shooters) around embiid and simmons. Thats why I think a Malik Monk would be who the 76ers would want to draft. Unless they get the top pick to get a fultz or tatum who are legit scorers too.

Embiid and Simmons are going to attract any stars who decide to come. I've never seen a star player jump teams because he was in love with their role players. and if the role players are in short contracts, doesn't it stand to reason that they won't be around very long to play with any star players who sign later?

Obviously simmons and embiid will be the ones. But no stars will go to a team if they arent good already. The role players are to help out simmons and embiid and then you get rid of them to make room for the stars.

Lebron and Bosh signed with a bad Heat team. Bron then subsequently rejoined an awful Cavs team. KG eventually dropped his no trade clause and agreed to be traded to a terrible Celtics team.

Players aren't blind. They don't just look at the team's current record, they see the future product with them as part of that roster. And they know better than anyone that championships are won on the backs of superstars. Filling out the role players is the easy part. All 30 teams have a roster full of them.

[jbent87]

To bully too,

my reasoning for overpaying 1-2 years on role players is so it is easier to attract the stars in like 1-2 years since odds are they wouldnt come this offseason for sure. Make the team even more attractive while putting supplementary players (shooters) around embiid and simmons. Thats why I think a Malik Monk would be who the 76ers would want to draft. Unless they get the top pick to get a fultz or tatum who are legit scorers too.

Embiid and Simmons are going to attract any stars who decide to come. I've never seen a star player jump teams because he was in love with their role players. and if the role players are in short contracts, doesn't it stand to reason that they won't be around very long to play with any star players who sign later?

Obviously simmons and embiid will be the ones. But no stars will go to a team if they arent good already. The role players are to help out simmons and embiid and then you get rid of them to make room for the stars.

or, just cut out the middle man and go right to bringing in the star? Then fill in the blanks? Why the heck are we adding role players to compliment Simmons, Embiid, then bring in a third star and reshuffle everything?

[The_Hater]

I ask again if Lowry signed with philly and everything else stayed the same who is the 2 seed?


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Assuming that nobody else adds a significant player than quite possibly the Sixers. Embiid and Lowry would be 2 of the top 5-6 players in the conference and for all we know Simmons isn't far behind. Usually defense is the biggest issue with a young team but not these guys.