MVP Discussion [19/20] [part I] - voting reopened

Homer38 · Post #1821 » by **Homer38** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:25 am

HBK_Kliq_33 wrote:Kawhi has won 80% of his games this season, his team has lost to Pelicans and Bulls without him, he's 2nd place in NBA in DRPM and leading the clippers in points, beat Lakers without George even playing. I say we give kawhi the bill Walton MVP, play 62 games but still wins it.

The topic is about the MVP.....

TheBonzaiEffect · Post #1822 » by **TheBonzaiEffect** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:09 am

mademan wrote:
TheBonzaiEffect wrote:
Vsauce12 wrote:Well it’s not like the Bucks weren’t going to beat that ass anyways

Easy to say that when you can't be proven wrong.

Bucks are playing at a level where every loss of theirs is a surprise. Mavs could beat them, ofc, but they'd be heavy underdogs

Mavs did beat L.A. twice (well, should have been twice). Would have been a great game with Luka.

DS17 · Post #1823 » by **DS17** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:23 am

lol harden nice 'effort'

TheBonzaiEffect · Post #1824 » by **TheBonzaiEffect** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 1:34 am

Vsauce12 wrote:Well it’s not like the Bucks weren’t going to beat that ass anyways

Oops.

MisterHibachi · Post #1825 » by **MisterHibachi** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:19 am

Imagine what this win would've done for Luka's MVP case if he was playing.

But looks like that supporting cast is legit and he isn't carrying a bunch of bums.

Baronious · Post #1826 » by **Baronious** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:42 am

This game just gave Bron a nice boost. Both Giannis and Luka were losers of the night in terms of the mvp race.

I still have Giannis slightly ahead of Bron. If lakers win Thursdays game, Bron will take the #1 spot for me.

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Dupp · Post #1827 » by **Dupp** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:45 am

MisterHibachi wrote:Imagine what this win would've done for Luka's MVP case if he was playing.

But looks like that supporting cast is legit and he isn't carrying a bunch of bums.

That’s why one game samples or takeaways are so silly. Anyone can have an off or on night in the nba. Hence the need for a 7 game series.

greekbuck34 · Post #1828 » by **greekbuck34** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:47 am

Baronious wrote:This game just gave Bron a nice boost. Both Giannis and Luka were losers of the night in terms of the mvp race.

I still have Giannis slightly ahead of Bron. If lakers win Thursdays game, Bron will take the #1 spot for me.

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Giannis' Anthony Davis just put 9 points on 12 shots with clownish performance on the defensive side.

Giannis had 48 points on 18/31
The rest of the bucks had 68 points on 26/74.

I'm sure it hurt him a lot in the MVP battle.

Baronious · Post #1829 » by **Baronious** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:51 am

I never said it hurt him a lot... MVP typically goes to the best player on the best team. If Lakers win away on Thursday, momentum will start shifting towars LeBron.

The fact that bucks won without him a couple nights ago doesn't help it either...

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nbhadja · Post #1830 » by **nbhadja** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:51 am

There is no way that Luca should be ahead of Lebron.

Jim Naismith · Post #1831 » by **Jim Naismith** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:54 am

Mavs victory hurts the MVP case for both Luka and Giannis.

clyde21 · Post #1832 » by **clyde21** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:57 am

nbhadja wrote:There is no way that Luca should be ahead of Lebron.

lol why?

Baronious · Post #1833 » by **Baronious** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:01 am

Worse team record.

Mavs lost in OT against a good team the game before and won against the top team today..all without him...

MisterHibachi · Post #1834 » by **MisterHibachi** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:02 am

Dupp wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:Imagine what this win would've done for Luka's MVP case if he was playing.

But looks like that supporting cast is legit and he isn't carrying a bunch of bums.

That’s why one game samples or takeaways are so silly. Anyone can have an off or on night in the nba. Hence the need for a 7 game series.

It's not a one game sample though. Mavs' bench has been insane all year, and almost beat the Heat in their last game too. This team is deep and coached by the best coach in the league.

Archx · Post #1835 » by **Archx** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:06 am

Jim Naismith wrote:Mavs victory hurts the MVP case for both Luka and Giannis.

Why? No player in history did it alone, you need a supporting cast to get to somewhere. Simple as that. But Mavs team is not filled with superstars, even KP is only finding his way back. They have bunch of good role players and Luka is simply connecting the dots. Unless you think THJ and Curry are real stars in this league? I would say the same goes for Giannis.

Swish1906 · Post #1836 » by **Swish1906** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:07 am

The two player who depend the most on Luka had terrible games, going for 2-16. Powell with Luka is pretty much the best roll finisher in the league. Today useless. THJ didnt get his open shots playing off Luka and went 1-10

So thats about the Mavs missing Luka...

Vsauce12 · Post #1837 » by **Vsauce12** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:12 am

TheBonzaiEffect wrote:
Vsauce12 wrote:Well it’s not like the Bucks weren’t going to beat that ass anyways

Oops.

Well I was wrong

Vsauce12 · Post #1838 » by **Vsauce12** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:32 am

This game does nothing but bolster Giannis chances to win MVP, everyone now knows that without Giannis the bucks are dog sht. Miss me with that “50 win team” crap. Just don’t lose two games b2b @ home

Fico92 · Post #1839 » by **Fico92** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:39 am

Swish1906 wrote:The two player who depend the most on Luka had terrible games, going for 2-16. Powell with Luka is pretty much the best roll finisher in the league. Today useless. THJ didnt get his open shots playing off Luka and went 1-10

So thats about the Mavs missing Luka...

Yet they beat the best team in the league, who was on an 18 game winning streak, without Luka...

Dupp · Post #1840 » by **Dupp** » Tue Dec 17, 2019 4:41 am

MisterHibachi wrote:
Dupp wrote:
MisterHibachi wrote:Imagine what this win would've done for Luka's MVP case if he was playing.

But looks like that supporting cast is legit and he isn't carrying a bunch of bums.

That’s why one game samples or takeaways are so silly. Anyone can have an off or on night in the nba. Hence the need for a 7 game series.

It's not a one game sample though. Mavs' bench has been insane all year, and almost beat the Heat in their last game too. This team is deep and coached by the best coach in the league.

Sure but are the mavs better without luka? Or course not. And bucks could easily beat the mavs with luka on the right day. I’m just saying any team can win or lose on the right day.

Obviously lukas cast is a little underrated and very good. That’s not what I meant by sample size just purely the win or loss.

Who is your pick for the 2019-20 MVP?