Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (4) Philadelphia 76ers vs. (5) Toronto Raptors (PHI 3-2)

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Tobias and Embiid can defend Siakam.

This hightlight shows Tobias defense on Siakam.

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Tobi locked down siakam for 3 games. Its no fluke. He average 18ppg on 40FG% before game 4.

Sixers is not sending any help defense when Siakam drives against Tobi because the team dont consider it as a mismatch.

Same case with Embiid. Since the 2019 playoffs.

Siakam is limited as a scorer where he is very right dominant. All Sixers (even Harden and Maxey do the same thing) has to do was to deny his right side and let him finish with his left hand.

Yeah Pascal was playing into the 6ers hands. We wanted to strangle him. Do you think the reg season or game 4 was a fluke? Did you notice anything different about Pascal or Tobias or was it all on the refs for you?

Game 4, it was not all refs. It’s partly being on fire. Partly hunting mismatch. Partly acknowledging he struggles against Tobi and Embiid and was hunting Danny Green or George Niang instead.

Game 1 to 3, it was almost all of Tobias and Embiid’s defense. Sixers coaching staff did a great job scouting Siakam. Watch the games where they just let his shoot and deny his right.

Good plan but Pascal still let that happen in the first few games and Philly were allowed to foul the crap out of him. Calling out the refs for being dirty was utterly ridiculous of Joel considering how they reffed the first 3.

[nikster]

How big of a fine is Embiid going to get for his comments?

It has to be pretty big, doesn't it. He didn't just criticize the officials. He basically accused the NBA league office of match fixing.

if Embiid gets fined for his comments, I would love to know what Nick Nurse's running tab is.

Loved Doc's comments after the game, basically saying he's not going to be like Nurse and sit there and whine and make excuses - they just got beat.

Embiid was not just commenting on the refs, but that the NBA rigged the game do extend the series. That is so much worse for the than just complaining about calls

[Green Backpack]

Man the Raps have been decimated by injuries. Trent Jr being sick for the first 3 games was bad luck but FVV was not managed well this season. Dude has been banged up all year and was constantly playing 40 mpg. Now out 1-3 weeks when it matters most.

[lobosloboslobos]

It has to be pretty big, doesn't it. He didn't just criticize the officials. He basically accused the NBA league office of match fixing.

if Embiid gets fined for his comments, I would love to know what Nick Nurse's running tab is.

Loved Doc's comments after the game, basically saying he's not going to be like Nurse and sit there and whine and make excuses - they just got beat.

Embiid was not just commenting on the refs, but that the NBA rigged the game do extend the series. That is so much worse for the than just complaining about calls

Personally I have no doubt that he is right, that the refs did favor the Raps to extend the series. i also have no doubt that the first two games the refs favored the 76ers to hand them the series. it's how this crappy great league works and anyone with any sense knows this. 76ers still played better in game 1, Raps played better in game 4. Would have been interesting to have had games 2 and 3 play out with fair refs. Regardless, pretty much every Raptors fan is expecting things to go back to how they were in games 1 and 2 tonight. Only way for Raps to win is for their 3 pt shooting to gt a whole lot better. Hope i'm wrong, doubt I am.

[sp6r=underrated]

It has to be pretty big, doesn't it. He didn't just criticize the officials. He basically accused the NBA league office of match fixing.

if Embiid gets fined for his comments, I would love to know what Nick Nurse's running tab is.

Loved Doc's comments after the game, basically saying he's not going to be like Nurse and sit there and whine and make excuses - they just got beat.

Embiid was not just commenting on the refs, but that the NBA rigged the game do extend the series. That is so much worse for the than just complaining about calls

Nurse should have been fined for complaining but saying the league fixes games is enormously different and worse than Nurse saying they're bad.

As an example of why Embiid's comments are worse take gambling, I detest the NBA's partnership with bookmakers. The promotion of gambling is a moral wrong that will ruin a lot of people lives. It is gross watching middle aged millionaires like KG, Paul Pierce, Jamie Foxx, Patton Oswald and others convince mostly working class guys that gambling is a good way to make money. It isn't. the lines are efficient. You will lose if you bet over a long enough timeline. Everyone who is involved in it should feel some shame.

But the NBA has decided to go into that business. They don't feel shame on it. They think getting people betting will increase viewership. People will bet on basketball games and watch them with bad refs. If they believe the games are fixed beforehand they won't. Nurse's comments don't endanger this profit line. Embiid's does.

Cuban famously said that after Game 5 of the NBA Finals and got a massive fine (250k). I'd be stunned if Embiid doesn't get a large fine.

[Ahmed1212]

The only way I see the raptors pulling a W tonight is a slow paced, defensive focused brand of basketball. This game has to be in the 90's.

I'd go:

PG: Scottie
SG: Gary
SF: OG
PF: Siakam
C: Precious

And try your very best to establish a defensive tone early. I think Nurse might start Khem over Precious to help avoid early foul trouble for Precious which is okay too. Main point, we need stops right out the gate for this game.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

A lot of bad calls went Philly’s way in game 4 and Embiid got all he deserved. I was yelling at the refs all game. Pascal was getting fouled. Philly can’t complain at all, it’s just entitlement. The refs spoiled them.

[Sisqo]

Nurse is, in my opinion, the single worst postgame whiner about refs in the NBA...and it is not close.

Can't imagine your opinion is biased in anyway at all.

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Nick Nurse postgame presser like I have with Doc. What I can say, however, is that out of the 30 games that the Sixers have lost this season, Doc has commented on the refs in his postgame presser maybe 2-3 times tops. Of the 6 games that the Raptors have lost in the last two playoff series with the Sixers, at least half of them have had Nurse whining about the refs. Now if you want to say that he is doing it to get a better whistle in the next game, and that that is part of the game, then fine. But please don't suggest that what he has done in these postgame pressers after losses is what every coach does, because it is not.

I don't recall saying that, can you point out a point where I have?

But it would be complete bull to try and say other coaches haven't or don't do it. Or that Doc doesn't complain either. It went as far as people joking if there is ever a statue of Doc it would be him on the sidelines with his arms in the air. That's pretty telling isn't it?

[SwaggyB]

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Nick Nurse postgame presser like I have with Doc. What I can say, however, is that out of the 30 games that the Sixers have lost this season, Doc has commented on the refs in his postgame presser maybe 2-3 times tops. Of the 6 games that the Raptors have lost in the last two playoff series with the Sixers, at least half of them have had Nurse whining about the refs.

What's half of 6? 2-3 tops..?

[bebopdeluxe]

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Nick Nurse postgame presser like I have with Doc. What I can say, however, is that out of the 30 games that the Sixers have lost this season, Doc has commented on the refs in his postgame presser maybe 2-3 times tops. Of the 6 games that the Raptors have lost in the last two playoff series with the Sixers, at least half of them have had Nurse whining about the refs.

What's half of 6? 2-3 tops..?

Six losses. Three "whining about the refs" jobs. That is blaming HALF of your losses after games on the refs.

That is some weak f'k'n sauce yo.

[SwaggyB]

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Nick Nurse postgame presser like I have with Doc. What I can say, however, is that out of the 30 games that the Sixers have lost this season, Doc has commented on the refs in his postgame presser maybe 2-3 times tops. Of the 6 games that the Raptors have lost in the last two playoff series with the Sixers, at least half of them have had Nurse whining about the refs.

What's half of 6? 2-3 tops..?

Six losses. Three "whining about the refs" jobs. That is blaming HALF of your losses after games on the refs.

That is some weak f'k'n sauce yo.

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Joel Embiid postgame presser but of the 1 game that the Sixers have lost in this playoff series with the Raps, every single one had Embiid whining about the refs. That is blaming 100% of your losses after games on the refs. That is some weak sauce yo.

I should add that I don't have the perspective of reading every bebopdeluxe post, but of the ones I've seen in this thread, 9 out of 10 are whining about someone else whining about refs.

[bebopdeluxe]

What's half of 6? 2-3 tops..?

Six losses. Three "whining about the refs" jobs. That is blaming HALF of your losses after games on the refs.

That is some weak f'k'n sauce yo.

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Joel Embiid postgame presser but of the 1 game that the Sixers have lost in this playoff series with the Raps, every single one had Embiid whining about the refs. That is blaming 100% of your losses after games on the refs. That is some weak sauce yo.

I should add that I don't have the perspective of reading every bebopdeluxe post, but of the ones I've seen in this thread, 9 out of 10 are whining about someone else whining about refs.

So...maybe Raptors fans should stop whining about the refs?

[gp2015]

As soon as he references Nurse he's complaining about the complainer. That's whining. Nurse really hasn't done that much complaining. He made one comment about being in legal guarding position and two comments about Embiid hitting guys in the face. The latter is protecting his players from dirty play. If one team is playing clean and the other is playing dirty, your options are to play dirty in response or to complain to the refs to make sure no one gets hurt. The legal guarding comment is certainly whiney. For Doc to even make this dig is hypocritical and you'd think he'd have more respect for his colleague. Has Nurse ever made a snide comment about Doc?

Nurse is, in my opinion, the single worst postgame whiner about refs in the NBA...and it is not close.

Can't imagine your opinion is biased in anyway at all.

<opponent's coach name> is, in my opinion, the single worst postgame whiner about refs in the NBA...and it is not close.

[mtcan]

Six losses. Three "whining about the refs" jobs. That is blaming HALF of your losses after games on the refs.

That is some weak f'k'n sauce yo.

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Joel Embiid postgame presser but of the 1 game that the Sixers have lost in this playoff series with the Raps, every single one had Embiid whining about the refs. That is blaming 100% of your losses after games on the refs. That is some weak sauce yo.

I should add that I don't have the perspective of reading every bebopdeluxe post, but of the ones I've seen in this thread, 9 out of 10 are whining about someone else whining about refs.

So...maybe Raptors fans should stop whining about the refs?

Maybe after a game is fairly officiated in Philly and there isn't a huge awkward looking disparity in fouls and free throw attempts favoring the Sixers?

At that point...maybe.

[Gasolina]

Six losses. Three "whining about the refs" jobs. That is blaming HALF of your losses after games on the refs.

That is some weak f'k'n sauce yo.

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Joel Embiid postgame presser but of the 1 game that the Sixers have lost in this playoff series with the Raps, every single one had Embiid whining about the refs. That is blaming 100% of your losses after games on the refs. That is some weak sauce yo.

I should add that I don't have the perspective of reading every bebopdeluxe post, but of the ones I've seen in this thread, 9 out of 10 are whining about someone else whining about refs.

So...maybe Raptors fans should stop whining about the refs?

Dude, like every post I see from you is whining about Raptors fans. It's embarrassing. Just enjoy the gentleman's sweep and try not to let Heat fans live in your head rent-free in the next series.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Nick Nurse postgame presser like I have with Doc. What I can say, however, is that out of the 30 games that the Sixers have lost this season, Doc has commented on the refs in his postgame presser maybe 2-3 times tops. Of the 6 games that the Raptors have lost in the last two playoff series with the Sixers, at least half of them have had Nurse whining about the refs.

What's half of 6? 2-3 tops..?

Six losses. Three "whining about the refs" jobs. That is blaming HALF of your losses after games on the refs.

That is some weak f'k'n sauce yo.

I don't think he blamed the refs for the losses. He complained about a specific parts of the game, like Embiid getting away with elbowing guys in the face without so much as a review. That is protecting your players. It still hasn't worked, but you can't fault him for trying. And he complained about Embiid running over guys in legal guarding position and drawing a blocking foul and said it would be hard to win if they allowed that.

Nurse made some pointed comments, and didn't once allude to a conspiracy and he didn't once complain about how Embiid and Harden flop or berate the officials for non-calls. He basically said, 'this guy is going to hurt someone if he's allowed to keep hitting guys in the face.' Unless you think it should be open season on faces, I think you would agree that's something that has to be reeled in. Either the Raptors retaliate, or they ask the refs to do their job. We're still waiting on them to do their job. I saw them call Embiid once at the tail end of game 2 for cracking Boucher in the face, and he complained. James Capers didn't even review it, just humoured him. This is why Siakam had to call out his countryman and friend and tell him to stop acting like a fake tough guy. No one wants to see Embiid out of the playoffs with a broken orbital bone, because elbows were being permitted.

[gp2015]

Nurse should just let his guys get elbowed in the face and stop complaining about it.

What a whiner.

[Michael Jordan]

I think Philly wins tonight and loses to Miami in 5.

Embiid with a thumb injury vs Adebayo is gonna end terribly for them. Meanwhile Butler will destroy his matchup with Harden.

[Wolfgang630]

I didn’t know Michael Jordan posted here.

[bebopdeluxe]

I will freely admit that I do not have the perspective of watching every Joel Embiid postgame presser but of the 1 game that the Sixers have lost in this playoff series with the Raps, every single one had Embiid whining about the refs. That is blaming 100% of your losses after games on the refs. That is some weak sauce yo.

I should add that I don't have the perspective of reading every bebopdeluxe post, but of the ones I've seen in this thread, 9 out of 10 are whining about someone else whining about refs.

So...maybe Raptors fans should stop whining about the refs?

Dude, like every post I see from you is whining about Raptors fans. It's embarrassing. Just enjoy the gentleman's sweep and try not to let Heat fans live in your head rent-free in the next series.

I don't give a rat's azz about Raptors fans. I am simply not going to let the endless whining from them about the refs go unchecked.

I don't expect the same to happen with Heat fans. They don't have a material subsection of their GB fanbase with the reputation for whining that Raptors fans have. My guess is it will be a flopfest battle between Lowry and Embiid.