2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets (6)

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Series Outcome

Poll ended at Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:01 am

Raps in 4
410
50%
Raps in 5
39
5%
Raps in 6
95
12%
Raps in 7
52
6%
Nets in 4
22
3%
Nets in 5
42
5%
Nets in 6
143
17%
Nets in 7
22
3%
 
Total votes: 825

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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1841 » by hands11 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:11 am

canballer wrote:To be fair, he NormanTwain did say he is not a fan of either team. With that being said I would say to him that this particular game is far from enough to make an educated guess on the outcome of the series. I think a sweep is highly unlikely, with as much bias removed as possible. It will likely be a 6 or 7 game series regardless of who comes out on top.


The idea that it could be a sweep is not based on one game today.

Its based on TORs inexperience and talent vs BRK experience and talent.

Its a one game series now. BRK just won game one in TOR. That isn't just a game. That a huge game.

Plumlee is going to play more then 12 minutes next game and that will help against Valanciunas.

Vasquez played huge. So did Valanciunas and Lowery. And DeRozan while 3-13 still scored 14 pts. Its not like TOR players didn't play well.

Just saying if BRK wins the next game, it would be easy to see this going sweep.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1842 » by Nils_the_Clean » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:12 am

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Roland Brice wrote:
NormanTwain wrote:
Not when they were healthy, you haven't, and wins in the regular season don't equal wins in the playoffs. At this point, it's obvious (and I'm not a fan of either team), that the Raptors would be lucky to win a single game, and the likely scenario is a sweep.


LOOOOOOOOOL the ignorance is strong here. It's thoroughly entertaining how Nets fans really believe in their hearts of hearts that this series is over after game 1. I thought Raps fans were overreacting, but wow!


What he wrote isn't ignorance. How about sticking to predictions instead of name calling.

So we have one TOR fan calling me a troll and another calling this poster ignorant.



Why are you white-knighting for every Net fan and rebutting any and everything a Raptor fan has to say? Even when you have ZERO investment in this series on any level? That's what I'd define as trolling. Going out of your way to annoy a certain group without any reason or intention other then to antagonize.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1843 » by NormanTwain » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:14 am

Roland Brice wrote:
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Inevitable wrote:There are a few games left buddy. We lost by single digits, we've beaten this team before and we can again.


Not when they were healthy, you haven't, and wins in the regular season don't equal wins in the playoffs. At this point, it's obvious (and I'm not a fan of either team), that the Raptors would be lucky to win a single game, and the likely scenario is a sweep.


LOOOOOOOOOL the ignorance is strong here. It's thoroughly entertaining how Nets fans really believe in their hearts of hearts that this series is over after game 1. I thought Raps fans were overreacting, but wow!


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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#1844 » by BK nets BK » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:16 am

Next game is huge. If we win you can forget about the raptors having any chance. We are a really good home team (set the longest home winning streak)I don't see the raptors winning any games in bk.

We are a horrible road team and the fact that we were in control of the game about 90% of the time shows you the advantage we have on this series. This is no where near over but as a nets fan I am feeling good about it

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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1845 » by Roland Brice » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:20 am

hands11 wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
NormanTwain wrote:
Not when they were healthy, you haven't, and wins in the regular season don't equal wins in the playoffs. At this point, it's obvious (and I'm not a fan of either team), that the Raptors would be lucky to win a single game, and the likely scenario is a sweep.


LOOOOOOOOOL the ignorance is strong here. It's thoroughly entertaining how Nets fans really believe in their hearts of hearts that this series is over after game 1. I thought Raps fans were overreacting, but wow!


What he wrote isn't ignorance. How about sticking to predictions instead of name calling.

So we have one TOR fan calling me a troll and another calling this poster ignorant.


What he wrote is extremely ignorant. Even the Nets will tell you it won't be over in a sweep. And what prediction are you talking about? That makes absolutely no sense.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1846 » by wu-massacre » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:22 am

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bullsnewdynasty wrote:At this point, I'm starting to think ESPN purposely chooses the worst possible music for their NBA games just for the lolz. Can't really think of another reason why they would play this song.

Seriously, Pitbull & Pharrell? What happened to Linkin Park, etc. smh
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1847 » by hands11 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:27 am

Nils_the_Clean wrote:
hands11 wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
LOOOOOOOOOL the ignorance is strong here. It's thoroughly entertaining how Nets fans really believe in their hearts of hearts that this series is over after game 1. I thought Raps fans were overreacting, but wow!


What he wrote isn't ignorance. How about sticking to predictions instead of name calling.

So we have one TOR fan calling me a troll and another calling this poster ignorant.



Why are you white-knighting for every Net fan and rebutting any and everything a Raptor fan has to say? Even when you have ZERO investment in this series on any level? That's what I'd define as trolling. Going out of your way to annoy a certain group without any reason or intention other then to antagonize.


Go back and read again. I actually compliment the TOR poster I replied to and complimented the team as well.

Just because I don't think they will win or that they can get swept doesn't mean I'm going out of my way to annoy anyone.

And just because BRK or TOR aren't my teams doesn't mean I don't watch them and that I don't have a view on the series. I'm a basketball fan. I watch lots of teams and I like players on lots of teams. And I make predictions on who will win games regarding those teams. Its called being an NBA fan.

If you don't want to interact with non TOR fans, you might want to stay in the TOR forum.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1848 » by canballer » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:27 am

hands11 wrote:
canballer wrote:To be fair, he NormanTwain did say he is not a fan of either team. With that being said I would say to him that this particular game is far from enough to make an educated guess on the outcome of the series. I think a sweep is highly unlikely, with as much bias removed as possible. It will likely be a 6 or 7 game series regardless of who comes out on top.


The idea that it could be a sweep is not based on one game today.

Its based on TORs inexperience and talent vs BRK experience and talent.

Its a one game series now. BRK just won game one in TOR. That isn't just a game. That a huge game.

Plumlee is going to play more then 12 minutes next game and that will help against Valanciunas.

Vasquez played huge. So did Valanciunas and Lowery. And DeRozan while 3-13 still scored 14 pts. Its not like TOR players didn't play well.

Just saying if BRK wins the next game, it would be easy to see this going sweep.


I don't know your overall repertoire of basketball knowledge so I won't speak to that. But in terms of this particular post I feel as though your vantage point regarding the Raptors loses credibility. In particular, "Its not like TOR players didn't play well." In fact, Dero and Amir happened to have what I would argue were the worst, or at the very least close to the worst, games of their respective seasons. Furthermore Ross was missing for significant portions of the game due to foul trouble (necessitating the use of John Salmons, a Pierce-age dinosaur who was never really that good period). Val had a great game, but he has been trending in that direction for over a month. Even he missed a ton of point blank shots which he generally would stick, which could have swayed the balance of the game. Lowry was of course Lowry, meaning an absolute beast. In any case only 2 of 5 starters were at average / slightly above average performance. The bench played well, but was far from an unusual outing. As a Raptors fan who was watched every game, they played like absolute **** overall. Both in general and relative to the rest of the season.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1849 » by LOUiS-D » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:36 am

NormanTwain wrote:
Roland Brice wrote:
NormanTwain wrote:
Not when they were healthy, you haven't, and wins in the regular season don't equal wins in the playoffs. At this point, it's obvious (and I'm not a fan of either team), that the Raptors would be lucky to win a single game, and the likely scenario is a sweep.


LOOOOOOOOOL the ignorance is strong here. It's thoroughly entertaining how Nets fans really believe in their hearts of hearts that this series is over after game 1. I thought Raps fans were overreacting, but wow!


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Was getting worried early in the 4th when 2Pat started drilling baskets. He'd killed us in a regular season game. Seemed like bringing back the starting unit for Toronto broke his flow. Amir never really got going. I know everyone is talking about DD now showing up, but I think Amir getting so few touches was part of the reason their ball movement stagnated. I've seen him do a great job making unselfish plays in the danger zone.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#1850 » by Deus » Sun Apr 20, 2014 1:52 am

DeRozan was terrible. Still believe Raps lose in 6 games though.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#1851 » by big_ticket » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:06 am

nice sig louis d..the nets are back i want to see them matchup against the heat 8-)
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1852 » by tsherkin » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:11 am

Prokorov wrote:nothing to complain about unless you are looking to make excuses, which alot of raps fans were queueing up before the game even started. outside of the blatche technical everything was normal


No, that's definitely wrong, there were several obvious non-calls and so forth. Again, it went both ways, but that doesn't render the complaint invalid. Still yes, the Raps lost this game on their own merits of play or lack thereof, not explicitly due to biased officiating, on that much we can agree.


it wasnt flawless, but it certainly was outstlanding, at least for nets standards.


"For Nets standards" is another story; you want to add that qualifier if you're dropping the "outstanding" bomb for a team that played as the Nets just did. They didn't have their foot on the throttle and repeatedly failed to capitalize on opportunities.

that was one of if not the best execution ive seen from this team on the road all year on both ends. the bench played ok, they missed open shots -- thats going to happen on the road from road players in the playoffs, just the way it is.


Context, yes, but the Nets were a middling team on offense over the year, so this looking good is not ultra-surprising. Yes granted, they've been MUCH better over the last 3 months or so for obvious reasons, but the execution in this game really wasn't terribly crisp.

Game one, old legs, on the road. I wouldn't call that a telling sign. I'd say that Brooklyn is apt to play much better in game two and for Toronto, that's not really a compelling prospect unless we can similarly improve.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#1853 » by crazy_me_87 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:15 am

what the heck o.O

people.. calm down.. its just one game

i expected overreaction but THIS is a new level..

the nets won by 7 ... and needed big games from all three of DWill,Joe and PP

thats not excactly a blowout with utter domination wich would lead me to a prediction that then Nets will win this series

Derozan and Ross will not play that bad all the time

and Deron Williams and Joe Johnson wont average 24 each...

so...

am i supressing my memory or is the overreacting this year gone to another Level ?
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1854 » by VanDamme » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:28 am

hands11 wrote:
canballer wrote:To be fair, he NormanTwain did say he is not a fan of either team. With that being said I would say to him that this particular game is far from enough to make an educated guess on the outcome of the series. I think a sweep is highly unlikely, with as much bias removed as possible. It will likely be a 6 or 7 game series regardless of who comes out on top.


The idea that it could be a sweep is not based on one game today.

Its based on TORs inexperience and talent vs BRK experience and talent.

Its a one game series now. BRK just won game one in TOR. That isn't just a game. That a huge game.

Plumlee is going to play more then 12 minutes next game and that will help against Valanciunas.

Vasquez played huge. So did Valanciunas and Lowery. And DeRozan while 3-13 still scored 14 pts. Its not like TOR players didn't play well.

Just saying if BRK wins the next game, it would be easy to see this going sweep.


You don't seem familiar with this season's Raptors starters. Amir was not himself, Ross got limited by foul trouble and barely saw floor time, and Demar was a no show. Yes 14 points 3-13 for him is a no show because he's able to get 4-5 assists and 4-5 rebounds and Demar only had 2 rebounds and 1 assist. He'll bounce back at some point and I hope it's next game. 3 out of 5 starters had no impact on the game and you thought the Raptors played well? :lol:

These are not excuses but 19 turnovers doesn't equal a good game, not even an average game. We executed horribly.
Both teams didn't play well from my perspective and then PP sealed the game down the stretch.

I was impressed with Val, with all this talk about experience and veteran mentality I was really proud Val for his calm collected no-nonsense demeanour. He wasn't tip-top but he left his mark and was focused like a veteran and he's only 21. Biggest surprise of the game for me that's for sure.

Edit. Hands11 you started off saying it's a one game series now. Then changed your mind and said you were trying to say if BKN wins the next one it could be a sweep. Doesn't seem like you have made up your mind.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1855 » by usernamedotcom » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:31 am

I didn't mind the reffing. Sure there were barely any calls against the Nets in the 4th, but I wouldn't mind if it was called like that on both sides. The whistles really take away from the atmosphere of the game I think.

Raptors lost because Derozan kept forcing bad shot after bad shot and turning it over. He really is useless if his shot isn't falling. Only way they will win is if he starts making plays for others, which I highly doubt will happen.

I also like Pierce, arguably the best Jayhawk ever.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#1856 » by Keith Van Horn » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:36 am

Raps fans telling people to calm down after a Nets win.... When before the game even begins, the game thread reaches 600+ posts with Toronto fans saying Raps will humiliate the Nets and take the series in a sweep.

I admire the passion of the fan base, but if you can't take the post game talk after a loss, don't make it seem like your team can't be beat before the game even begins. Unbelievable.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1857 » by VanDamme » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:39 am

macgyver893 wrote:Raps fans telling people to calm down after a Nets win.... When before the game even begins, the game thread reaches 600+ posts with Toronto fans saying Raps will humiliate the Nets and take the series in a sweep.

I admire the passion of the fan base, but if you can't take the post game talk after a loss, don't make it seem like your team can't be beat before the game even begins. Unbelievable.


Unless you're talking about the exact same posters that doesn't really make sense.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1858 » by snomeister » Sun Apr 20, 2014 2:48 am

macgyver893 wrote:Raps fans telling people to calm down after a Nets win.... When before the game even begins, the game thread reaches 600+ posts with Toronto fans saying Raps will humiliate the Nets and take the series in a sweep.

I admire the passion of the fan base, but if you can't take the post game talk after a loss, don't make it seem like your team can't be beat before the game even begins. Unbelievable.

You haven't been around very long so I'll let you know. Raps in 4 is a RealGM meme, especially on the General Board. If you look on the Raptors forum even their poll didn't have as many Raps in 4 votes although it's a meme over there too. I don't think any Raptor fan actually thought the Raptors could sweep the series.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets  

Post#1859 » by Duffman100 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:03 am

While it sucked to lose, was really nice to see JV have such a big game in his first playoff game.

For a 21 year old, 2nd year centre to have 17/18...pretty impressive.
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Re: 2014 NBA Playoffs: Toronto Raptors (3) vs Brooklyn Nets 

Post#1860 » by Illmatic12 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:10 am

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