Western Conference | Round 2 | (1) Phoenix Suns vs. (4) Dallas Mavericks (2-2)

[zshawn10]

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That’s freaking disgusting

[zshawn10]

Here’s the video of the fans messing with his mom

https://out.reddit.com/t3_ulfcet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstreamable.com%2Fyw2meq&token=AQAAdoF4YsfTA5D36_XzjcBLAOA962lCGWCDJ29qW_sgPCbaToQo&app_name=reddit.com

[Swish1906]

Paul should be allowed to punch the kid in his still developing nuts to teach him a lesson

[Gimli]

I get you're from a different sports culture. But just stop. You sound incredibly ignorant on this topic.

I will. But in game 2 Luka got roughly the same treatment. You can be pretty sure if Luka's gf was there, she would also get the same treatment. It literally happened 2 games ago, or "one arena ago". In the same series. Plus CP3 and Book sort of insulted Luka, which you have to realize that some hardcore fans wouldn't take so lightly....

It's also difficult to stop when lots of people are saying how I'm a terrible being and I'm supporting the terrible fans. Which is just not true. I'm just not the type of person to risk anything, if it's not necessary to risk it. Especially if it comes to other people, for which I am responsible.

But yeah, I guess the culture gap is just too big. Though at least in the Balkans you don't have so much racism and people just shooting each other. You also don't get as many "road rage" accidents.

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[California Gold]

I can expect if CP3 has anything left he'll go all out the next two games. Something like this can fuel a fire within someone.

[JoeyLightYears]

I get you're from a different sports culture. But just stop. You sound incredibly ignorant on this topic.

I will. But in game 2 Luka got roughly the same treatment. You can be pretty sure if Luka's gf was there, she would also get the same treatment.

Heckling the players is normal and expected although sometimes people cross the line with racism etc and get booted. Heckling their relatives isn’t normal and touching their families is definitely out of line . I don’t know of that’s business as usual in your country but that sounds pretty primal if so.

[Beethoven]

Let's keep the momentum into the 5th and 6th games. Home court is all psychological. Highly possible for Dallas to at least win one in Phoenix.

[TeamTragic]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/33884069/dallas-mavericks-remove-fan-harassed-phoenix-suns-pg-chris-paul-family

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[Big J]

I get you're from a different sports culture. But just stop. You sound incredibly ignorant on this topic.

I will. But in game 2 Luka got roughly the same treatment. You can be pretty sure if Luka's gf was there, she would also get the same treatment.

Heckling the players is normal and expected although sometimes people cross the line with racism etc and get booted. Heckling their relatives isn’t normal and touching their families is definitely out of line . I don’t know of that’s business as usual in your country but that sounds pretty primal if so.

Maybe the kid was a plant and put there by Cuban to heckle CP3's relatives. Seemed like Paul was way off his game cause of this.

[leolozon]

Because they're vastly different plays?

I get people hate Jae, and seems Suns don't have many fans outside of AZ. But saying those two plays are similar is a joke.

Jae probably should get a foul there. Flagrant is ridiculous

"Probably should be a foul?"

Your bias is a bit too big to be able to be objective I see.

I guess throwing a player on the ground is a basketball play for you. This is 100% a non-basketball play and a flagrant.

I mean you are complaining about one call meanwhile this game was officiated heavily in your favor.

You got the win. What else do you want?

Complaining? I talked about it wondering why no one talked about what was probably a missed flagrant. And then answered a bad take on the play.

Heavily is wrong in my opinion. There was bad calls all over the place, though that 6th foul by CP3 shouldn't have been a foul and was the most important call in the game I would think. That foul alone gives the advantage to the Mavs.

[azcatz11]

Wow that’s messed up and the kids mom was the instigator. What a horrible family.

[Phystic]

I get you're from a different sports culture. But just stop. You sound incredibly ignorant on this topic.

I will. But in game 2 Luka got roughly the same treatment. You can be pretty sure if Luka's gf was there, she would also get the same treatment. It literally happened 2 games ago, or "one arena ago". In the same series. Plus CP3 and Book sort of insulted Luka, which you have to realize that some hardcore fans wouldn't take so lightly....

It's also difficult to stop when lots of people are saying how I'm a terrible being and I'm supporting the terrible fans. Which is just not true. I'm just not the type of person to risk anything, if it's not necessary to risk it. Especially if it comes to other people, for which I am responsible.

But yeah, I guess the culture gap is just too big. Though at least in the Balkans you don't have so much racism and people just shooting each other. You also don't get as many "road rage" accidents.

No Luka did not get the same treatment. Stop it.

And now you're trying to bad mouth the country. Seriously just stop

[bwgood77]

I didn't say that you moron. Learn to read.
I said that this could be avoided by CP3.

What if someone threw a bottle on CP3's kidd (I'm not sure he had a kidd there)? And what if the bottle would break? And the kidd would bleed from his head? Do you think his wife wouldn't blame CP3 for that? For his entire life? Sure, some terrible being threw that bottle, but CP3 didn't had to put his family in this position.

Unless it's just very common in the USA that family attends away games in the playoffs. To me, being from the Balkans, is just unimaginable.

That is exactly what you're saying though. You're saying fans of the away teams can expect to be asaulted for rooting for a different team and it's their fault. You sound all types of stupid.

I guess the 2 cowboy hat fans in game 1 and 2 should have gotten beat up and it would have been their fault.

I'm saying that you can't expect a reasonable behavior from terrible people and thus it's best to avoid them. And since CP3 is responsible for his family, he shouldn't have brought them there. He can be all politics if he wants, trying to "weed out" the bad people, but you can't put other people in this situation.

You can do whatever you want to yourself, you can go driving 150 miles per hour, but it's very irresponsible to bring innocent people into it. He should have left his family in the hotel, unless USA is just that more civilized country than the Balkans. But giving how many people are shot in the USA, I wouldn't say so.

People can be insulted anywhere. Does that mean he shouldn't bring his team anywhere? Why should people have to be worried about bringing their family to a game? If people get insulted fine, but you shouldn't lay your hands on their families.

[Gimli]

I get you're from a different sports culture. But just stop. You sound incredibly ignorant on this topic.

I will. But in game 2 Luka got roughly the same treatment. You can be pretty sure if Luka's gf was there, she would also get the same treatment.

Heckling the players is normal and expected although sometimes people cross the line with racism etc and get booted. Heckling their relatives isn’t normal and touching their families is definitely out of line . I don’t know of that’s business as usual in your country but that sounds pretty primal if so.

It depends on which team plays and if they have the hardcore fans or not. Pretty much always I would say this doesn't happen, to be honest. But with certain teams, it probably happens on a consistent basis? I'm not sure.

I mean, to some people from the Balkans, sports is a religion almost... And then when you have very violent people cheering for their team... But at least you get very little road rage here. Almost no accidents are caused by that. You've got lots of videos of some rage accidents from America or racism, this I think in the Balkans just doesn't happen. So in that respect, the USA is more primitive than our countries. We also don't have any shooting killings (but we don't even have the weapons)... I'm just clarifying some things, in case the Balkans sound too primitive to you. But yeah, the sports is a religion for some folks here.

[Gimli]

People can be insulted anywhere. Does that mean he shouldn't bring his team anywhere? Why should people have to be worried about bringing their family to a game? If people get insulted fine, but you shouldn't lay your hands on their families.

I'm already across the line with getting insulted.

It comes down to this. You are responsible for your family. You have to do everything in your power so that you don't endanger them. However dangerously you want to live by yourself, that's up to you. You can drive 150 miles per hour, you can go climb the mountains (like professionals with tools etc.), you can take drugs, but when you are responsible for someone else, you don't endanger them.

The world is a pretty bad place. It is what it is. But when you're taking care of someone else, you're not in the position to gamble either with their life or with their well being. You can do whatever you want to yourself (but if you have family, you still can't do everything you want, naturally).

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[Big J]

Could CP3 sue this kid got this?

[Swish1906]

Booker is prime Pierce with the headsnap. Every single drive

[MoneyTalks41890]

Don’t feed the troll ITT. Not worth it.

As to how to stop this kind of stuff, if it’s sufficiently corroborated (don’t doubt it is, just saying), ban the kid indefinitely. He can apply to be come to games again some years from now once he’s shown some contrition.