Edrees wrote:Nuntius wrote:durden_tyler wrote:They still don’t. Their Olympics has always been the redemption arc/opportunity after every World Cup failure. If they do manage to win gold in Paris, they are redeemed again and Americans will care even less about the World Cup, where they should send Team B/C again since all is right again.
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Right but that doesn't change the fact that it's hypocritical to call out someone for "not caring" about something after busting everyone else's balls about how much you didn't care for the past 12 months
PS: And, obviously, the hypocritical part here doesn't refer to you, durden. You're not the one making that claim.
It's not hypocritical if you have evidence to back up your claims. Germany sent their best players to the Olympics, so it's presumable to think they care. There is no evidence that "germany doesn't care".
USA did not send their best players to the FIBA world cup,they did not even send their 20th best team possible, so there's a good argument to be made that the USA doesn't care.
It's not hypocritical to use an evidence based arguement. If my criteria is " teams care if they send their best players, and they dont care if they dont" then it's using a single standard. How is this hypocritical?
If Germany sent their F team to the Olympics and lost, THEN I would say it's hypocritical if Americans to call them out for not caring, because then the situations would be identical.
the situations are not identical in the least.
To make the claim that Americans DO care about the Fiba world cup is denial and you don't even believe that yourself. Just look at the roster they sent compared to the roster they sent to the Olympic and in good faith can you honestly tell yourself they even attempted to win the former?
To make the claim the Germany don't care about the Olympics has no evidence to support it.
Again, I want to stress, nobody claimed that the players on Team USA didn't care during FIBA World Cup. They are saying USA as a whole doesn't care, therefore they did not even send their best players. I am sure, and others are, that the players who showed up, and the coaches who participated, did their best to win each game they played.
In THIS case, people are claiming the German players on the team don't care to win the game or that the coaches did not attempt to gameplan to win the game. That's an
entirely different argument.
In last years thread, we discussed Basketball popularity in Germany, and shared this German poll.
Thats what been said, its not about German federation not caring, its about the fact country barely cares about the sport at all, its kind off a stretch to use word care, when the sport is 22nd. place, way behing Triathlon and stuff, so hello, thats what been said.
Basketball in Germany is far less popular than Soccer is in US, far less...
And that country still produce a team that defeats USA, but Americans then have gut saying they are the ones not caring. Hello dude?
Also, just like most contenders, Germans were missing some of their best players, Hartenstein, Da Silva, Kleber, Weiler Babb if I remember missed that tournament, and probably someome else I forgetting.
Every 5 pages theres a new fool reminding how USA didn't send their best players, but according to them, other teams did. Yes, USA's list of missing players is probably the longest, but Lithuania missed like 8 players from A team, Germany at least 4, those countries still beat USA. Top players miss World cup all the time, how we need to remind this every day to new ignoramus? but its really no one elses problem other federations have bigger success at recruiting at least half of their top guys usually. Every federation tries to recruit best posibble team every year, its their job.
