Luka AD trade thread Part II

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1861 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 3, 2025 4:26 pm

shi-woo wrote:Gams played: Luka 22, Davis 6



But them 6 games, tho!!!!

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Post#1862 » by LakersSoul » Thu Apr 3, 2025 4:53 pm

Andri wrote:The only way to change their next 5 years of nothing could be trading AD hoping someone bites, and they have a lucky break landing a SGA.

Unfortunately, it seems ego will even block that small chance of happening possibility


OKC wasnt interested in trading SGA for Luka then and now.

If Dallas wants to move from AD, then they can trade him for 1-2 youth players and get 4-5 FRPs back.
Then pray the 1-2 youth players turn into a star.

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1863 » by GiannisAnte34 » Thu Apr 3, 2025 4:59 pm

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1864 » by XTC » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:10 pm

LakersSoul wrote:
Andri wrote:The only way to change their next 5 years of nothing could be trading AD hoping someone bites, and they have a lucky break landing a SGA.

Unfortunately, it seems ego will even block that small chance of happening possibility


OKC wasnt interested in trading SGA for Luka then and now.

If Dallas wants to move from AD, then they can trade him for 1-2 youth players and get 4-5 FRPs back.
Then pray the 1-2 youth players turn into a star.


Knecht, Koloko and a 2083 1st should be enough to get AD to the Lakers IMO.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1865 » by LakersSoul » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:27 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:I would boycott the Mavs for life if I was a fan


What are you gonna do when Bucks trade Giannis this summer?

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1866 » by sp6r=underrated » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:29 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:This was one of the worst trades in NBA history the minute it happened.

We'll see where it ends up in the rankings of infamy. The Joe Billy Carroll trade, the Billy King trade, Dirk for Tractor Traylor are among the strongest candidates considering they had championship implications.

But this certainly was the most inexcusable.

Not only was it incompetent. It was aggressively idiotic and insensitive.


The Luka trade is the worst trade in NBA history, by far. Dirk was traded on draft day. He was just a prospect. Nobody knew he was going to become an ATG. That was the equivalent of passing on Dirk in the draft. Teams make bad draft day trades all the time. The Celtics traded the #1 overall pick, and the Warriors drafted a bum. Parish was not even a fraction of the player Luka is (and he had yet to break out when the trade happened), and the Warriors still got a haul for him. The Billy King trade was terrible, but it was a trade for draft capital. If the Celtics didn't hit on their picks, nobody would be talking about that trade right now.

The Luka trade is unique in that the Mavs traded a top-5 player just entering his prime, for an injury-prone veteran on his last legs, a middling prospect, and a pick that will end up in the 25-30 range. This, just a year after Luka led them to the Finals.


Well put. Trading Luka was bad but what made the trade catasthrophic was the approach they took which resulted in a return that made them worse in the short-term and far worse long-term.

If they had traded Luka and gotten a super version of the OKC haul for Paul George, 3-4 good young players and a bucket of picks, their fans would probably still be pissed but at least they have a very bright future.

Here they closed their title window made the long-term awful for a player who failed as a franchise player in NO, is on the decline and is more injury prone than the player mgmt gave up on.

I wouldn't blame any Mavs fan for walking away. That's awful.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1867 » by sp6r=underrated » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:31 pm

DusterBuster wrote:Even the minor deals the Mavs made this deadline has blown up in their face. Grimes is putting up almost 18 a game for Philly, plus they gave them a pick… for an over the hill Caleb Martin.

Either Nico has some dirt on the current owners or those owners gave him instructions to just make the worst deals imaginable to destroy the franchise for a generation…. Because my god.

Nico Harrison may be the new leader in the clubhouse for worst GM of all time.


The AD trade was so bad it caused me to revisit other succesful moves he made. I now think he just got super lucky with Kyrie last year. He didn't think Kyrie had matured. He thought there was no maturity issue and thought he was a legit franchise player.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1868 » by sp6r=underrated » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:35 pm

Fat wrote:Mavs will win another championship before the lakers


That could happen but even if it does it doesn't justify this trade. If I liquidate my 401k, buy 200k worth of powerball tickets, win and become a billionaire I'm still an idiot even if it worked.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1869 » by sp6r=underrated » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:50 pm

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shi-woo wrote:Gams played: Luka 22, Davis 6



But them 6 games, tho!!!!

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His advance stats are totally pedestrian. In 2025, this boxscore isn't anything worth trading a player like Luka for. Sengun has been much better this year than Dallas' Davis even limited to the games Davis played.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1870 » by Jamaaliver » Thu Apr 3, 2025 5:56 pm

sp6r=underrated wrote:His advance stats are totally pedestrian. In 2025, this box score isn't anything worth trading a player like Luka for. Sengun has been much better this year than Dallas' Davis even limited to the games Davis played.



Brother, I'm just having some giggles.

I honestly have no horse in this race.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1871 » by GiannisAnte34 » Thu Apr 3, 2025 8:03 pm

LakersSoul wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:I would boycott the Mavs for life if I was a fan


What are you gonna do when Bucks trade Giannis this summer?


What will you do if Giannis is a Buck for life? He seems content to have a Dirk career
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1872 » by DusterBuster » Fri Apr 4, 2025 2:59 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:Even the minor deals the Mavs made this deadline has blown up in their face. Grimes is putting up almost 18 a game for Philly, plus they gave them a pick… for an over the hill Caleb Martin.

Either Nico has some dirt on the current owners or those owners gave him instructions to just make the worst deals imaginable to destroy the franchise for a generation…. Because my god.

Nico Harrison may be the new leader in the clubhouse for worst GM of all time.


The AD trade was so bad it caused me to revisit other succesful moves he made. I now think he just got super lucky with Kyrie last year. He didn't think Kyrie had matured. He thought there was no maturity issue and thought he was a legit franchise player.


100%. It was just a star player he could get for the assets he had. That deal may have skewed his opinion on the value of star players too and have led to why he gave away Luka so cheap.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1873 » by -Luke- » Wed Apr 9, 2025 4:38 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279956/Mavericks-Likely-Cost-Themselves-Hundreds-Of-Millions-Of-Dollars-With-Luka-Doncic-Trade

The Dallas Mavericks are expected to have cost themselves nine figures in revenue over the next few seasons due to the Luka Doncic trade, sources tell ESPN's Tim MacMahon. Attendance has been down since the Doncic trade and so many fans canceled season tickets after the trade that the Mavericks offered limited refunds in attempts of generating some level of goodwill.

The Mavericks have also lost revenue opportunities due to decreasing merchandise sales and sponsors severing ties with the franchise after the Doncic trade.

For all the criticism the Mavericks have received for the Doncic trade from a basketball perspective, the business side of the deal has also been a negative for the franchise.

The Mavericks internally believed that a five-year, $345 million supermax contract extension that Doncic would become eligible for this offseason would be a poor investment.


Win now move for the finances as well.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1874 » by sp6r=underrated » Wed Apr 9, 2025 5:41 pm

-Luke- wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/279956/Mavericks-Likely-Cost-Themselves-Hundreds-Of-Millions-Of-Dollars-With-Luka-Doncic-Trade

The Dallas Mavericks are expected to have cost themselves nine figures in revenue over the next few seasons due to the Luka Doncic trade, sources tell ESPN's Tim MacMahon. Attendance has been down since the Doncic trade and so many fans canceled season tickets after the trade that the Mavericks offered limited refunds in attempts of generating some level of goodwill.

The Mavericks have also lost revenue opportunities due to decreasing merchandise sales and sponsors severing ties with the franchise after the Doncic trade.

For all the criticism the Mavericks have received for the Doncic trade from a basketball perspective, the business side of the deal has also been a negative for the franchise.

The Mavericks internally believed that a five-year, $345 million supermax contract extension that Doncic would become eligible for this offseason would be a poor investment.


Win now move for the finances as well.


That's an under-discussed part of this trade. A lot of the times bad, basketball trades are good, business trades. There are very good players who aren't marketable. There are bad players who are very marketable. Those trades still piss off the hardcore fans but the logic from a business perspective is sound.

But Luka is substantially more marketable than AD. We have decades of data showing bigs are the hardest players to market. We also have decades of data showing ball-dominant players are marketable. So the Mavericks made a trade that was instantly panned on the basketball court and in the business of basketball.

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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1875 » by Broadcaster » Wed Apr 9, 2025 6:20 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:I would boycott the Mavs for life if I was a fan


Me too. This whole thing was and is beyond over the top. If I had spent money over a period of time supporting a team and they did this I would find it unforgivable. Why would I ever want to support you again?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1876 » by maverick_41 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:06 am

I don't want my franchise player to score 45 points, I don't him to be marketable. I want to fly on the airplanes with other men.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1877 » by knicksfan974 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 7:47 am

Tonight was again a reminder just how horrible the trade was for the Mavs. How someone still supports the Mavs org is beyond me, I would boycott.
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Post#1878 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:07 am

we're still talking about this as if the Mavs had any choice? GG. The NBA and Luka clearly forced him to the Lakers. And because they desperately want Luka and Lebron playing meaningful games deep in the playoffs the Mavs couldn't even get AR back. Mavs and Nico just took a bullet for the league. This is just classic NBA rigging. This is no different than a Western Conference team with championship aspirations and the reigning three-time MVP firing their HC and G.M. days before the playoffs. The fact that BOTH of these things happened within weeks of each other and people still deny that the league is rigged is hilarious.
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1879 » by knicksfan974 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:20 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:we're still talking about this as if the Mavs had any choice? GG. The NBA and Luka clearly forced him to the Lakers. And because they desperately want Luka and Lebron playing meaningful games deep in the playoffs the Mavs couldn't even get AR back. Mavs and Nico just took a bullet for the league. This is just classic NBA rigging. This is no different than a Western Conference team with championship aspirations and the reigning three-time MVP firing their HC and G.M. days before the playoffs. The fact that BOTH of these things happened within weeks of each other and people still deny that the league is rigged is hilarious.


What's your take, why they were fired? The league was somehow involved in it?
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Re: Luka AD trade thread Part II 

Post#1880 » by nbaguy1 » Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:48 am

Think about it. Lebron James has the same innitials as Lindon B Johnson. LBJ and LBJ. Lindon B Johnson was the heir to JFK. Who got assasinated...where?

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