So how about Joel Embiid

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1881 » by Dominator83 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:38 am

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Must've been a bad week in the Eastern Conference. How does he get player of the week when he missed a game? And left another early and didn't return

Pretty sure it runs Sunday-Sunday.

He averages 22/10/3 on 47/37/70 shooting with a near +9 per game and Philly was 3-0.

He missed saturday. Left early friday.

Maybe I'm just old school, but in order to be player of the week, you should, you know, play the full week!
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1882 » by bondom34 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:39 am

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Dominater wrote:Must've been a bad week in the Eastern Conference. How does he get player of the week when he missed a game? And left another early and didn't return

Pretty sure it runs Sunday-Sunday.

He averages 22/10/3 on 47/37/70 shooting with a near +9 per game and Philly was 3-0.

He missed saturday. Left early friday.

Maybe I'm just old school, but in order to be player of the week, you should, you know, play the full week!

He arguably outplayed everyone else in the week, and his team was undefeated.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1883 » by dorkestra » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:46 am

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Dominater wrote:Must've been a bad week in the Eastern Conference. How does he get player of the week when he missed a game? And left another early and didn't return

Pretty sure it runs Sunday-Sunday.

He averages 22/10/3 on 47/37/70 shooting with a near +9 per game and Philly was 3-0.

He missed saturday. Left early friday.

Maybe I'm just old school, but in order to be player of the week, you should, you know, play the full week!


He was just that dominant. If you haven't caught any of his play from the week and you enjoy watching phenomenal players, I would recommend it.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1884 » by LordCovington33 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:29 am

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bondom34 wrote:Pretty sure it runs Sunday-Sunday.

He averages 22/10/3 on 47/37/70 shooting with a near +9 per game and Philly was 3-0.

He missed saturday. Left early friday.

Maybe I'm just old school, but in order to be player of the week, you should, you know, play the full week!


He was just that dominant. If you haven't caught any of his play from the week and you enjoy watching phenomenal players, I would recommend it.

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1885 » by CoreyGallagher » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:01 pm

https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-sixers-best-nba-centers-8e14d8e954c0#.nic713z46

Comparing his defense to the best defensive bigs in the league and comparing his offense to the best offensive bigs in the league.

The reason Embiid is being so highly touted is because the league currently lacks truly dominant two way bigs. Players that can anchor a defense and be a team's primary option on offense.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1886 » by The_Hater » Thu Jan 26, 2017 2:11 pm

CoreyGallagher wrote:https://theringer.com/joel-embiid-sixers-best-nba-centers-8e14d8e954c0#.nic713z46

Comparing his defense to the best defensive bigs in the league and comparing his offense to the best offensive bigs in the league.

The reason Embiid is being so highly touted is because the league currently lacks truly dominant two way bigs. Players that can anchor a defense and be a team's primary option on offense.


Exactly. Cousins is great offensively but not a defensive anchor. Towns needs to improve on D. Howard was close in his prime but he was somewhat limited on offense.

Embiid is out of the Olajuwon, Ewing, Robinson, Shaq mold and we haven't seen that in a long time.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1887 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:06 pm

Embiid is about as perfect a prospect as can be if you discount the injuries. That's why I think when it's all said and done he could definitely be consulted a top 5 all time center.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1888 » by HotelVitale » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:13 pm

naabzor wrote:Noel can't play. No offense whatsoever. His outings that he is not an 8 minute player are now backfiring.

He has an elite net rating of +18 this year, win shares, BPM, etc have been excellent. You might not want to look at two games and base a judgment on that.

Edrees wrote:If Ben Wallace developed a good enough offensive game to thrive so can Noel. Not saying he's the next ben wallace or as good just saying you can work on your offensive game enough through your career.

He's already much better on offense than Ben Wallace was. Please don't create a caricature--he's really good at alley-oops and putbacks and he's not an awful shooter (though the team forced him into taking way too many midrange shots during the super-tank years).

Case in point: this year he has a 63% TS while pouring in over 17 pts per 36, last year he scored 14 per 36 on 55% TS. Ben Wallace never came remotely close to either of those accomplishments.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1889 » by rzzzzz » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:02 pm

Noel should prosper on a talented roster that plays a good transitional scheme. just as long as he doesn't end up matched up against Embiid in a playoff series down the line.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1890 » by Edrees » Fri Jan 27, 2017 12:54 am

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naabzor wrote:Noel can't play. No offense whatsoever. His outings that he is not an 8 minute player are now backfiring.

He has an elite net rating of +18 this year, win shares, BPM, etc have been excellent. You might not want to look at two games and base a judgment on that.

Edrees wrote:If Ben Wallace developed a good enough offensive game to thrive so can Noel. Not saying he's the next ben wallace or as good just saying you can work on your offensive game enough through your career.

He's already much better on offense than Ben Wallace was. Please don't create a caricature--he's really good at alley-oops and putbacks and he's not an awful shooter (though the team forced him into taking way too many midrange shots during the super-tank years).

Case in point: this year he has a 63% TS while pouring in over 17 pts per 36, last year he scored 14 per 36 on 55% TS. Ben Wallace never came remotely close to either of those accomplishments.


I wasn't trying to say Noel had no offensive game, I was trying to say if offense is his weaker part of his game, it can be heavily improved, ie, don't worry about his offense so much (which can easily be improved) when he has such a defensive impact.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1891 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:52 pm

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Post#1892 » by HeJind » Wed Feb 1, 2017 6:10 am

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Disabled Sports wrote:Even though Joel Embiid's NBA career is off to a phenomenal start, it is bound to tail off because of Ben Simmons. During the first half of his rookie season, Joel Embiid displayed a diverse plan of attack when it came to scoring the basketball. For instance, Embiid usually received the ball at or behind the three point line, once that happens he will evaluate where his defender is. For example, if the defender is close to him, he will take a few steps towards the basket to see whether the defender sags off. If he does, Embiid will shoot the mid-range jumper but if the defender doesn't he will post up or continue his drive to the basket. On the other hand, if the defender chooses to sag off initially he will shoot the wide open three.

However, this diversity will be taken away once Ben Simmons steps on the floor. This is because Simmons needs to play in an offensive system that showcases his ability to pass the ball and get to the basket. As a result of this, the Philadelphia 76ers will be forced to adopt an offensive system similar to that of the Cleveland Cavaliers with Lebron James. Where the paint is relatively empty giving Simmons the option and freedom to pass or attack the basket depending on what the defense is showing. For instance, if the defense decides to collapse he will most likely pass it to the perimeter for an open shot or pass it to a player who is cutting towards the basket. If they do not, he will shoot a jumper or drive depending on whether the defense sags off or plays close to him. As a result, Embiid won't be able to post up or attack the basket as much because defenses will collapse on Simmons giving him a wide open three, Simmons chooses to score or Simmons will pass him the ball with the shot clock running down. All these factors should lead to Embiid becoming primarily a spot up shooter in the next year or two which should reduce his effectiveness.

http://disabledsports.sportsblog.com/posts/31604384/joel-embiid-should-be-reduced-to-a-3-point-shooter-within-1-or-2-years.html


One of the biggest strength of Simmons is he makes guys around him better. So Im fine with the reducing usage of Embiid once Simmons come back to be the primary handler because Embiid's (and the whole teams') efficiency will increase significantly. Don't forget we are still one of the worst offensive team with Embiid being our only focal point on the court.

ben simmons will make the overall team better but he has a similar playing style to LBJ and look what LBJ turned bosh/love into

The thing about Love is that like Bosh, in Miami, he's actually their 3rd best offensive player, which is why he became more of a spot up shooter.

Simmons is a LeBron-like playmaker but mot.a LeBron-like scorer, so he won't be taking shots from Embiid. Love was able to play his game in Minny despite playing with a ball-dominant PG in Rubio. It'd be better to think of.Simmons as a 6'10 Rubio than a 6'10 LeBron right now.

Not to mention, Embiid is so elite defensively that he would also be much better in the current Kevin Love role than Kevin Love is.


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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1893 » by cksdayoff » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:12 pm

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So, in other gifs I thought he was just messing around but it looks like Embiid is legitimately adding the Dirk fadeaway to his arsenal. That sounds oh so nasty.


when was the last time a 7 footer became an elite shooter? embiid is on his way...probably the sixer's closer too

that shooting touch, that's something you're born with. the guy's a natural
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1894 » by RightToCensor » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:14 pm

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So, in other gifs I thought he was just messing around but it looks like Embiid is legitimately adding the Dirk fadeaway to his arsenal. That sounds oh so nasty.


when was the last time a 7 footer became an elite shooter? embiid is on his way...probably the sixer's closer too

Pau and Marc Gasol are elite for their position
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1895 » by mrm5480 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:40 pm

Sucks he doesn't know how to land correctly and always tries to jump to block shots instead of staying on the ground... :banghead:
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1896 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:44 pm

Embiid is a generational talent but the scary fact is even Greg Oden played more games by his 3rd year.

When we let that sink in, better pray he can somehow he incredibly stays somewhat healthy moving forward. It would really suck to miss out on a talent like that, I think he would debunk that the C position is dead.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1897 » by Joel Embust » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:47 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:Embiid is a generational talent but the scary fact is even Greg Oden played more games by his 3rd year.



"Going into next season, Joel Embiid will have played 31 of a possible 246 games.

At the same point in his career, Greg Oden had played in 82 of a possible 246 games."
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Post#1898 » by Chris76 » Thu Jul 6, 2017 10:47 pm

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One of the biggest strength of Simmons is he makes guys around him better. So Im fine with the reducing usage of Embiid once Simmons come back to be the primary handler because Embiid's (and the whole teams') efficiency will increase significantly. Don't forget we are still one of the worst offensive team with Embiid being our only focal point on the court.

ben simmons will make the overall team better but he has a similar playing style to LBJ and look what LBJ turned bosh/love into

The thing about Love is that like Bosh, in Miami, he's actually their 3rd best offensive player, which is why he became more of a spot up shooter.

Simmons is a LeBron-like playmaker but mot.a LeBron-like scorer, so he won't be taking shots from Embiid. Love was able to play his game in Minny despite playing with a ball-dominant PG in Rubio. It'd be better to think of.Simmons as a 6'10 Rubio than a 6'10 LeBron right now.

Not to mention, Embiid is so elite defensively that he would also be much better in the current Kevin Love role than Kevin Love is.


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Good points, I agree Simmons impact will be his playmaking skills, a 6'10 Rubio that finishes like Blake Griffin. If he improves his shooting, his mechanics aren't bad, he will be a mismatch nightmare. With weapons like Embiid, Fultz, and others, he should easily avg 7 assists and 7 rebounds a game.
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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1899 » by cksdayoff » Fri Aug 4, 2017 10:35 pm

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Re: So how about Joel Embiid 

Post#1900 » by Kalela » Sat Aug 5, 2017 12:04 am

If healthy he is the best big man in the league. Not a Sixers fan but I hope he stays injury-free.
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