Kyrie Trade Discussion Continued

[Deezzraptors]

Think he stays, I don't think there's a trade that makes sense unless it's Jackson/Bledsoe. Ultimately, Kyrie either has to play or not get paid (right?).

There's no coming back after a trade demand imo. Would you go to war with someone who privately told you they want to fight for the other side? Nearly impossible to view them the same way or rely on them to have your back. Cavs will either wait till the 14th when the player pool opens up a bit more or move him before camp . He would likely be deactivated until they found a trade that worked for both parties that way he isnt a cancer and also mitigates injury risk before moving him. Remember these guys are like investment stocks to alot of these owners so they will take their time.

I like the way you put That. I totally agree thats how it should be Handled

[Gus McCrae]

Would Ny do Zinger if it also meant they added Noah, while getting both Kyrie and Love? Would a deal around those 4 with obviously more added from both be possible?

Problem is Lebron and just Zinger are probably not even making the Finals.

[THE J0KER]

With biggest NBA trade ever which includes 5 teams and over 15 players, anyone can get what they want for reasonable price, and this turbulent offseason could be finally over:

To Cleveland: Porzingis, Bledsoe, Faried (out: Irving, Love)
To New York: Love, T.Chandler, J.Hernangomez, Dudley, Nelson (out: Porzingis, Anthony, Noah)
To Phoenix: Murray, Noah, Anderson, Arthur, HOU2018, DEN2018 (out: Bledsoe, T.Chandler, Dudley)
To Houston: Anthony (out: Anderson, Ariza, 1st2018)
To Denver: Irving, Ariza (out: Murray, Faried, J.Hernangomez, Arthur, Nelson, 1st2018)

[InWestWeTrust]

With biggest NBA trade ever which includes 5 teams and over 15 players, anyone can get what they want for reasonable price, and this turbulent offseason could be finally over:

To Cleveland: Porzingis, Bledsoe, Faried (out: Irving, Love)
To New York: Love, T.Chandler, J.Hernangomez, Dudley, Nelson (out: Porzingis, Anthony, Noah)
To Phoenix: Murray, Noah, Anderson, Arthur, HOU2018, DEN2018 (out: Bledsoe, T.Chandler, Dudley)
To Houston: Anthony (out: Anderson, Ariza, 1st2018)
To Denver: Irving, Ariza (out: Murray, Faried, J.Hernangomez, Arthur, Nelson, 1st2018)

I feel like you might as well leave the Nuggets out. Have Irving go to the Knicks (they won't give up Zinger for Love), Love to Phoenix (didn't they want to sign him?). And I don't know the rest lol.

[SelfishPlayer]

Why is Love being mentiond so frequently? A frontcourt of Love and Porzingis will have an element of addition by subtraction. Lebron will finally have a starting squad where everyone can score. TT looks like his 2016 postseason run will be his finest effort.

[magnumt]

With biggest NBA trade ever which includes 5 teams and over 15 players, anyone can get what they want for reasonable price, and this turbulent offseason could be finally over:

To Cleveland: Porzingis, Bledsoe, Faried (out: Irving, Love)
To New York: Love, T.Chandler, J.Hernangomez, Dudley, Nelson (out: Porzingis, Anthony, Noah)
To Phoenix: Murray, Noah, Anderson, Arthur, HOU2018, DEN2018 (out: Bledsoe, T.Chandler, Dudley)
To Houston: Anthony (out: Anderson, Ariza, 1st2018)
To Denver: Irving, Ariza (out: Murray, Faried, J.Hernangomez, Arthur, Nelson, 1st2018)

So NY gives up Porzingis for Love?

Stick to 2K mode (trade override enabled).

--Mags

[Fo-Real]

With biggest NBA trade ever which includes 5 teams and over 15 players, anyone can get what they want for reasonable price, and this turbulent offseason could be finally over:

To Cleveland: Porzingis, Bledsoe, Faried (out: Irving, Love)
To New York: Love, T.Chandler, J.Hernangomez, Dudley, Nelson (out: Porzingis, Anthony, Noah)
To Phoenix: Murray, Noah, Anderson, Arthur, HOU2018, DEN2018 (out: Bledsoe, T.Chandler, Dudley)
To Houston: Anthony (out: Anderson, Ariza, 1st2018)
To Denver: Irving, Ariza (out: Murray, Faried, J.Hernangomez, Arthur, Nelson, 1st2018)

Too much, and I was trying to leave the Suns out of this for ever!

[RCM88x]

Why is Love being mentiond so frequently? A frontcourt of Love and Porzingis will have an element of addition by subtraction. Lebron will finally have a starting squad where everyone can score. TT looks like his 2016 postseason run will be his finest effort.

Because it's more fun to include Love.

[gino_giode]

All this talk about Porzingis being in a trade for Kyrie is absolutely stupid/crazy. The only one that wanted him out of NY was PJax and that was because he got spurned when Porzingis skipped out on exit interviews.

If NY gives away Porzingis, there WILL be riots.

Cavs fans need to get that out of their heads now because in no alternate reality does that ever happen.

[Fo-Real]

All this talk about Porzingis being in a trade for Kyrie is absolutely stupid/crazy. The only one that wanted him out of NY was PJax and that was because he got spurned when Porzingis skipped out on exit interviews.

If NY gives away Porzingis, there WILL be riots.

Cavs fans need to get that out of their heads now because in no alternate reality does that ever happen.

So no, not a chance even with Love being added to Kyrie and Noah being in the outgoing?? Not a chance??

[John Murdoch]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydftdd8k

Would Utah eat Noah to pick up W.Gomez/1st ? Would be a nice fit next to Gobert and if Noah recovers he's still a capable backup. Joe/Favs likely arent resigning anyways

[THE J0KER]

With biggest NBA trade ever which includes 5 teams and over 15 players, anyone can get what they want for reasonable price, and this turbulent offseason could be finally over:

To Cleveland: Porzingis, Bledsoe, Faried (out: Irving, Love)
To New York: Love, T.Chandler, J.Hernangomez, Dudley, Nelson (out: Porzingis, Anthony, Noah)
To Phoenix: Murray, Noah, Anderson, Arthur, HOU2018, DEN2018 (out: Bledsoe, T.Chandler, Dudley)
To Houston: Anthony (out: Anderson, Ariza, 1st2018)
To Denver: Irving, Ariza (out: Murray, Faried, J.Hernangomez, Arthur, Nelson, 1st2018)

So NY gives up Porzingis for Love?

Stick to 2K mode (trade override enabled).

--Mags

Knicks will get a star (Love), the former star which still can play good bball (T.Chandler), reunite young Hernangomez brothers, and most important get rid of bad Noah contract which makes them able to get some FA superstar next summer with MAX deal.

Fair enough.

[InWestWeTrust]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydftdd8k

Would Utah eat Noah to pick up W.Gomez/1st ? Would be a nice fit next to Gobert and if Noah recovers he's still a capable backup. Joe/Favs likely arent resigning anyways

Jazz wouldn't touch this, awful for them

[Fo-Real]

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ydftdd8k

Would Utah eat Noah to pick up W.Gomez/1st ? Would be a nice fit next to Gobert and if Noah recovers he's still a capable backup. Joe/Favs likely arent resigning anyways

Eeeewwww, Utah aint gonna like that.

[Prez]

Trading away Porzingis would seriously be one of the dumbest moves in history. The moment that kid fills out his frame a bit and develops that franchise player assertiveness, he's utterly destroying the league.

[SelfishPlayer]

All this talk about Porzingis being in a trade for Kyrie is absolutely stupid/crazy. The only one that wanted him out of NY was PJax and that was because he got spurned when Porzingis skipped out on exit interviews.

If NY gives away Porzingis, there WILL be riots.

Cavs fans need to get that out of their heads now because in no alternate reality does that ever happen.

I think that the Knicks fans that attend the games would like Kyrie for Porzingis, and the Knicks fans that do not attend the games will forget about Porzingis once Kyrie has his first 40 point game.

[jason bourne]

With biggest NBA trade ever which includes 5 teams and over 15 players, anyone can get what they want for reasonable price, and this turbulent offseason could be finally over:

To Cleveland: Porzingis, Bledsoe, Faried (out: Irving, Love)
To New York: Love, T.Chandler, J.Hernangomez, Dudley, Nelson (out: Porzingis, Anthony, Noah)
To Phoenix: Murray, Noah, Anderson, Arthur, HOU2018, DEN2018 (out: Bledsoe, T.Chandler, Dudley)
To Houston: Anthony (out: Anderson, Ariza, 1st2018)
To Denver: Irving, Ariza (out: Murray, Faried, J.Hernangomez, Arthur, Nelson, 1st2018)

So NY gives up Porzingis for Love?

Stick to 2K mode (trade override enabled).

--Mags

Knicks will get a star (Love), the former star which still can play good bball (T.Chandler), reunite young Hernangomez brothers, and most important get rid of bad Noah contract which makes them able to get some FA superstar next summer with MAX deal.

Fair enough.

Knicks getting raped even though getting rid of Noah's contract and Suns not getting enough back for taking Noah and Anderson's huge contracts. Do the salaries work?

[LookToShoot]

To Cavs: Porzingis + Noah + Lee + Exum

To Jazz: Love + Shump + Felder

To Knicks: Irving + Favors + J. Johnson + Cavs next 1st + Jazz 2018 1st (protected)

Sounds good to me.

of course it does. So you think the Cavs would take back 2 garbage contracts to get KP and Exum and give up their own 2018 pick when their goal is to remain a contender ( which this trade does not do because you are also shipping out KLove) and plan for the future (which this trade does in part, but at too much of a cost) and sacrifice a pick? no way on earth even KI's flat one.

They could keep their 2018 first round pick, and Lee is a solid player. I'm sure the Cavs could find some team to take Noah after a season or so.

[Birdie]

Trading away Porzingis would seriously be one of the dumbest moves in history. The moment that kid fills out his frame a bit and develops that franchise player assertiveness, he's utterly destroying the league.

Yup, agree 100% with this sentiment. You can apply it to Giannis as well even though Giannis has been bulking up ever since he came into the league cuz he knows. But you get both those guys like 20-30lbs heavier/more muscle, unstoppable. Giannis the more dynmaic guy obviously, especially, if he keeps improving his outside shot but Porzingis at a peak weight/size, could be a devasting version of prime Dirk.

That's why I hope NY only sees the the bright lights of acquiring Kyrie to sell tickets not realizing they're really not making the move based on bball grounds. Shhhhh...don't tell them....

But I believe, any KP deal HAS to involve getting Bledsoe from PHO or possibly Avery Bradley or Patrick Beverley as we need a PG if CLE going this route imo.

[xfactor]

Think he stays, I don't think there's a trade that makes sense unless it's Jackson/Bledsoe. Ultimately, Kyrie either has to play or not get paid (right?).

There's no coming back after a trade demand imo. Would you go to war with someone who privately told you they want to fight for the other side? Nearly impossible to view them the same way or rely on them to have your back. Cavs will either wait till the 14th when the player pool opens up a bit more or move him before camp . He would likely be deactivated until they found a trade that worked for both parties that way he isnt a cancer and also mitigates injury risk before moving him. Remember these guys are like investment stocks to alot of these owners so they will take their time.

I like the way you put That. I totally agree thats how it should be Handled

Should be, and probably will be, will likely not be the same.