Eastern Conference | Round 1 | (2) Boston Celtics vs. (7) Brooklyn Nets

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Post#1921 » by 1st banana » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:30 am

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1st banana wrote:I think you’ll see Derrick white on him more often game 2. He seemed to be the only body that made kyrie even remotely uncomfortable.

Something about Marcus idk if it’s because they were teammates but kyrie usually plays well against him aside from the last reg season game against him.


Marcus has always been a bit vulnerable against quick guards.

that's tough because a lot of contenders have quick guard threats. one of maxey/fvv is gonna make it. tyler herro is quick too. then maybe someone like ja/ant/poole in the finals if ever.

I’d be more worrried about big wings like Kd/jimmy/Middleton than fast guards although poole torched us this year.
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Post#1922 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:58 am

Well. I am from Europe and over there you have whole arenas with thousands of fans chanting about player's mothers sexual preferences (often involving animals), so I'm not gonna sit here and say fans insulting players is unacceptable. That would be hypocritical, although I don't even find it as entertaining as I used to. It's childish and I'm old.

I will say this though. If you choose to insult somebody in a game, and through some chain of events you end up insulted back, or you end up with your face punched in, you've kinda lost the right to complain about it. I thought that was universally understood.
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Post#1923 » by ajones9219 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 7:58 am

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ajones9219 wrote:I'll just say this. If Boston wins game 2 you won't see Ben Simmons this season


If Celtics are up 3-0 why wouldn't Simmons come back? 0 pressure.


I think that's basically the ultimate pressure. We can say 3-0 is done... and it is, but the Nets won't accept that. There would be immense outside pressure to try to save the team but I think that does more long term damage than it is worth. And if you accept 3-0 is hopeless then when would you risk him and not just start fresh and fully healthy next season.

Granted I kind of doubt it goes 3-0. Maybe 3-1
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Post#1924 » by Asian Celtic » Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:25 am

I gotta admit, after kyrie flipped twice mocking c's fans and doing a crying reaction I was triggered, wanted the celtics to come back but had little faith that time because of our track record taking L's in close games.

That buzzer lay.up took a ton of wrinkles in my face. :lol:
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Post#1925 » by DoctorX » Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:01 am

The ending of the game made me think of the ending of this episode from the Fresh Prince. Tatum was the guy who hit the game winner in this clip and Durant was Will Smith. I wish I had the ability to edit this clip and put Tatum's face on the guy who hit the game winner and Durant's face on Will Smith.

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Post#1926 » by Luke Skyowner » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:11 am

yes be triggered and upset. I don´t have dog in the race but this is playoffs. Would be wack to give techs for this, double wack. Would give one more reason to hate modern game. This playoffs will make boys to men and i´m not talking about players!
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Post#1927 » by Slax » Mon Apr 18, 2022 10:53 am

Pachinko_ wrote:Well. I am from Europe and over there you have whole arenas with thousands of fans chanting about player's mothers sexual preferences (often involving animals), so I'm not gonna sit here and say fans insulting players is unacceptable. That would be hypocritical, although I don't even find it as entertaining as I used to. It's childish and I'm old.

I will say this though. If you choose to insult somebody in a game, and through some chain of events you end up insulted back, or you end up with your face punched in, you've kinda lost the right to complain about it. I thought that was universally understood.

Wtf man. I don't give a **** about Kyrie flipping off the crowd, that is just hilarious. But you can't be seriously saying that violence is an expected and acceptable response to fans taunting a player.
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Post#1928 » by ShermansShoes » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:09 am

Triple M wrote:One thing about the KD played bad narrative, then why didn't the Nets win when he played better in the 2nd half?

Because it was tied at half

He shot 2-10 in the first half with multiple TOs but his 2nd half wasn't as bad 7-14 with fewer TOs.

Kyrie also played better in the 2nd half then his first half with 24 of his 39 came in the 2nd half.


This is a good point. Kyrie went off, and KD had about what you'd expect from him from the 2nd half on and still lost. What that implies is that the Nets will either need both players to play above what they already do, or find it from another source if one of them is just at their average or below.
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Post#1929 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:22 am

Slax wrote:Wtf man. I don't give a **** about Kyrie flipping off the crowd, that is just hilarious. But you can't be seriously saying that violence is an expected and acceptable response to fans taunting a player.

Expected? Yes. In the sense of predictable I mean, insult resulting in violence is one of the most common and predictable things that happen every day.

Acceptable? Not if you were planning it. But yes if you just lost it in the heat of the moment. Humans are humans, not everyone can remain stone cold while getting insulted.

That's generally speaking, not that a player will jump into the stands and start attacking people (although that has happened too).

What more commonly happens is that an opposing fan might one day decide to teach someone a lesson on behalf of a player. NBA is still far from that and will probably stay like that (mainly because of distances between NBA cities), but make no mistake man, that's how it started once upon a time in Europe and now they have opposing fans separate in the stands with riot police in between.
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Post#1930 » by Slax » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:44 am

Pachinko_ wrote:
Slax wrote:Wtf man. I don't give a **** about Kyrie flipping off the crowd, that is just hilarious. But you can't be seriously saying that violence is an expected and acceptable response to fans taunting a player.

Expected? Yes. In the sense of predictable I mean, insult resulting in violence is one of the most common and predictable things that happen every day.

Acceptable? Not if you were planning it. But yes if you just lost it in the heat of the moment. Humans are humans, not everyone can remain stone cold while getting insulted.

That's generally speaking, not that a player will jump into the stands and start attacking people (although that has happened too).

What more commonly happens is that an opposing fan might one day decide to teach someone a lesson on behalf of a player. NBA is still far from that and will probably stay like that (mainly because of distances between NBA cities), but make no mistake man, that's how it started once upon a time in Europe and now they have opposing fans separate in the stands with riot police in between.

Can't get past that you actually think it's acceptable to punch another fan for insulting a player on a team you like as long as it's "in the heat of the moment".
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Post#1931 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:55 am

Slax wrote:Can't get past that you actually think it's acceptable to punch another fan for insulting a player on a team you like as long as it's "in the heat of the moment".

No that's the predictable bit. The acceptable is for insults directly to your person.
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Post#1932 » by Jaqua92 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:06 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:KD literally caught ball watching the last shot and completely lost his man who sneaked behind him and got a layup to win the game. Imagine if he loses the series because of that? Woof.

Other than that I wanted to say that the best defence in the League has a massive roster hole, and it's not Timelord. They have nobody to put on a fast guard if Smart is in foul trouble. Big wings are great, until you have to put them on someone fast and short. Kyrie left Tatum in the dust and got an open layup at least twice that I remember, Brown didn't do much better, Pritchard was LOL

Kyrie may or may not shoot like that every night, but he will absolutely blow past a slower defender every single night.
Kyrie was also blocked by Tatum.

And Rob is that hole. His recovery and leaping speed is nuts. Rob routinely has blocked guards that blow by him

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Post#1933 » by sam_I_am » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:06 pm

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Mamba81p wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:I'll just say this. If Boston wins game 2 you won't see Ben Simmons this season


If Celtics are up 3-0 why wouldn't Simmons come back? 0 pressure.


I think that's basically the ultimate pressure. We can say 3-0 is done... and it is, but the Nets won't accept that. There would be immense outside pressure to try to save the team but I think that does more long term damage than it is worth. And if you accept 3-0 is hopeless then when would you risk him and not just start fresh and fully healthy next season.

Granted I kind of doubt it goes 3-0. Maybe 3-1



After watching final play last night, Simmons has been upgraded to practice with Dragic and Kyrie defending him.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#1934 » by sam_I_am » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:12 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:KD literally caught ball watching the last shot and completely lost his man who sneaked behind him and got a layup to win the game. Imagine if he loses the series because of that? Woof.

Other than that I wanted to say that the best defence in the League has a massive roster hole, and it's not Timelord. They have nobody to put on a fast guard if Smart is in foul trouble. Big wings are great, until you have to put them on someone fast and short. Kyrie left Tatum in the dust and got an open layup at least twice that I remember, Brown didn't do much better, Pritchard was LOL

Kyrie may or may not shoot like that every night, but he will absolutely blow past a slower defender every single night.


Derrick White is a plus defender so, no they do not have a massive hole. When Kyrie is on, nobody can defend him. Question in the past has always been about how consistently he can bring it. I have to admit he looks more dialed in than I’ve ever seen him although his shenanigans with the fans suggest he might be coming unglued again. He’s a different dude so who knows.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."
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Post#1935 » by tsherkin » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:21 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
Slax wrote:Can't get past that you actually think it's acceptable to punch another fan for insulting a player on a team you like as long as it's "in the heat of the moment".

No that's the predictable bit. The acceptable is for insults directly to your person.


I believe what he's saying (and Slax, correct me if I'm wrong) is that the idea of it being acceptable to punch someone secondary to insults when you're a paid professional is a little much. What two folks outside of a bar wanna do after someone mouths off too much is maybe one thing, but for $33 million, Kyrie really ought to shut the hell up and play basketball and let the league handle it.
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Post#1936 » by Pachinko_ » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:25 pm

I said what I had to say about this, I'd just be repeating myself.
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Post#1937 » by chrisab123 » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:53 pm

Slax wrote:
Pachinko_ wrote:
Slax wrote:Wtf man. I don't give a **** about Kyrie flipping off the crowd, that is just hilarious. But you can't be seriously saying that violence is an expected and acceptable response to fans taunting a player.

Expected? Yes. In the sense of predictable I mean, insult resulting in violence is one of the most common and predictable things that happen every day.

Acceptable? Not if you were planning it. But yes if you just lost it in the heat of the moment. Humans are humans, not everyone can remain stone cold while getting insulted.

That's generally speaking, not that a player will jump into the stands and start attacking people (although that has happened too).

What more commonly happens is that an opposing fan might one day decide to teach someone a lesson on behalf of a player. NBA is still far from that and will probably stay like that (mainly because of distances between NBA cities), but make no mistake man, that's how it started once upon a time in Europe and now they have opposing fans separate in the stands with riot police in between.

Can't get past that you actually think it's acceptable to punch another fan for insulting a player on a team you like as long as it's "in the heat of the moment".


I miss the days of Mike Milbury going into the stands and beating a fan with his own shoe. The kid who threw the water bottle last year was a moron. But Kyrie getting insults? What does he expect? You decide to flip off the crowd, call them racist, the logo thing, tell them to suck your dick, etc...I mean...Chuck and Shaq had it right after the game. Suck it up. I'm not advocating for fans to cross a line of decency but he has to know some type of taunting or booing is coming.
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Post#1938 » by GWVan » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:04 pm

chrisab123 wrote:I miss the days of Mike Milbury going into the stands and beating a fan with his own shoe. The kid who threw the water bottle last year was a moron. But Kyrie getting insults? What does he expect? You decide to flip off the crowd, call them racist, the logo thing, tell them to suck your dick, etc...I mean...Chuck and Shaq had it right after the game. Suck it up. I'm not advocating for fans to cross a line of decency but he has to know some type of taunting or booing is coming.


I liked Shaq saying Chuck got worse from his own fans in Philly
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Post#1939 » by Feed Your Head » Mon Apr 18, 2022 1:27 pm

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Kyrie went 3-4 against Tatum, 3-3 against Jaylen, and 3-5 against Theis.
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