Luka AD trade thread Part II

[Archx]

Honest Question: Who is more responsible for huge team decisions, the GM or the owner?

Nico somehow managed to dissuade him from asking for a second opinion by using the excuse that it would get leaked.
If any other person heard about this, trade wouldnt happen. When they heard it it was already too late.

A lot of owners are not experts in basketball, and they trust their GM's, however on decisions like that you always ask for 2nd opinion if you are not sure. What Nico did here, just tells us that Dumont didnt get to be owner because he is smart like most of NBA owners, but because he got lucky. Dumbass.

I would put 90% on Nico and rest on the owner. He has final word, but he got tricked here.


All that is under assumption that everything here was legal. I still think that someone got a lot of money out of this, and we all know who that someone is.

If you're an owner who's capable of being tricked by your underling, you're a horrible owner and leader.

The owner isn't a victim. Victims don't have choices.

Leaders are always most responsible.

You need to check first who the owners really are in real life. The family who bought the Mavs admitted they have no clue about basketball and NBA so they appointed the first guy they thought will be able to run the team. But problem is, even the guy who acts as an owner, is more or less clueless himself and apparently got tricked heavily by Nico.

In short, yes owner is a dumbass but he was basically tricked and Cato reports that he is getting more and more sceptical about Nico.

Read on Twitter

[Invictus88]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

[Pharmcat]

Another disastrous press conference for Nico, he going to get fired soon imo

[Drygon]

Nico Harrison on the backlash to trading away Luka Doncic:

"I did know Luka was important to the Mavericks fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level."

[maverick_41]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/44704219/inside-end-luka-doncic-era-dallas-mavericks

Long story short, Nico traded Luka bcs he wanted to be a big boss.
**** usless **** will get fired in couple of months and never see an interview for NBA job in his life. How could he not see that?
I still bet he got that bribe stashed in some Swiss account or a fat Bitcoin wallet.

MONTHS BEFORE SMITH'S exit, Doncic and Seager had hired Real Madrid physiotherapist Javier Barrio Calvo and Slovenian national team strength coach Anze Macek -- both of whom Doncic knew well -- to work for him after his nagging quadriceps injury contributed to the Mavs limping into the 2023 draft lottery.

Doncic and Seager had envisioned his staff working seamlessly with Smith, who made annual summer visits to Slovenia and often attended Doncic's national team games around the globe. With Smith having been dismissed for the final year of his contract, Holsopple was the Mavs' point man in the union with Doncic's body team.

Doncic's camp considered the first season of the arrangement a great success. He averaged a league-leading 33.9 points, 9.2 rebounds and 9.8 assists during the regular season and became the first player in NBA history to lead the league in points, rebounds, assists and steals during a postseason. He also led the league in total minutes with 3,524 combined in the regular season and playoffs.

"You don't perform like that ... if you're a fat, drunk pig," a friend of Doncic's grumbled.

[Saints14]

Nico Harrison on the backlash to trading away Luka Doncic:

"I did know Luka was important to the Mavericks fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level."

This is the closest we’ll get to an admission of error on his part. The sad thing is though, it sounds like he’s probably not getting fired and is motivated to burn what’s left of the Mavs future to try and win next year and justify this horrible trade

[TheGeneral99]

The Mavericks have had close to 25 years of near continuous success thanks to having two incredible superstars in Dirk and Luka. It's incredibly rare for an NBA team to transition from one MVP level superstar in Dirk to an arguable better MVP level superstar in Luka so seamlessly.

Luka basically guaranteed the Mavericks would continue to be a contender for the next decade and Nico squandered that away with the dumbest trade in NBA history.

[HotRocks34]

I feel good for Luka but terrible for Mavs fans.

[jpengland]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

They do stupid things, yes.

But when it comes to their own business, their own wealth, they will absolutely ask the questions around due diligence.

This isn’t just a bad trade. One where value was misjudged, where the balance of risk wasn’t correct or where a hand was forced. This is an absolute dereliction of duty to not even ASK other teams if they may be interested in a top 3 trade asset in the league.

It’s absolutely inconceivable that this got signed off without there being some kind of **** at play behind the scenes.

What that was, I don’t know. League interference? Owners deliberately tanking the franchise for relocation? Someone in the Lakers franchise having something over the Dallas owners? A poker game gone wrong? I don’t know, but it’s something.

[TheGeneral99]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

They do stupid things, yes.

But when it comes to their own business, their own wealth, they will absolutely ask the questions around due diligence.

This isn’t just a bad trade. One where value was misjudged, where the balance of risk wasn’t correct or where a hand was forced. This is an absolute dereliction of duty to not even ASK other teams if they may be interested in a top 3 trade asset in the league.

It’s absolutely inconceivable that this got signed off without there being some kind of **** at play behind the scenes.

What that was, I don’t know. League interference? Owners deliberately tanking the franchise for relocation? Someone in the Lakers franchise having something over the Dallas owners? A poker game gone wrong? I don’t know, but it’s something.

But it's not just that.

We know that Luka really wanted to sign an extension this summer.

If the Mavericks were hell bent on trading Luka then why not sign him to the supermax this summer and then look to trade him the next deadline and start the biggest bidding war in NBA history. Teams would be lining up to get a 26 year old Luka in his prime for a guaranteed 5 years. The Mavericks could have got a treasure trove of draft picks and young prospects if they simply waited.

[TheGeneral99]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

It also has to do with being competent in one area doesn't mean you have any competence in another area.

Dumont may be a very smart guy, but he could be completely ignorant of basketball. At least Cuban was a die hard NBA fan when he became the owner.

I knew Dumont was an ignorant fool when he cited "Shaq" as someone who epitomized a great work ethic. Any serious basketball fan knows that Shaq was someone who was supremely and uniquely physically gifted who could have had an ever better legacy had he actually worked hard.

[og15]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

And of course he could be smart in his specific domain. Being smart in one area says nothing about how smart you will be in another totally unrelated area.

[Anderson Hunt]

The boss is always responsible. Yet for some reason, Nico Harrison is low-hanging fruit.

[Raps in 4]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

And of course he could be smart in his specific domain. Being smart in one area says nothing about how smart you will be in another totally unrelated area.

Nico is good at selling shoes. Patrick is good at sex, apparently. Neither is qualified to run an NBA team.

[RodyTur10]

I’m still not buying that this was only Nico.

I don’t care how crappy of an owner you are, or how clueless about basketball you are, if a GM says he’s trading one of the best players in the world, you at least ask how many teams he’s spoken to and what due diligence he’s done to be certain he’s getting maximum value for your asset.

There’s much, much more to this.

Having money doesn't equate to having intelligence or expertise in any particular area.

People with massive amounts of wealth do incredibly stupid things all the time. I'll leave it to the reader to find some very obvious examples of this so as to not turn this thread into something else.

They do stupid things, yes.

But when it comes to their own business, their own wealth, they will absolutely ask the questions around due diligence.

This isn’t just a bad trade. One where value was misjudged, where the balance of risk wasn’t correct or where a hand was forced. This is an absolute dereliction of duty to not even ASK other teams if they may be interested in a top 3 trade asset in the league.

It’s absolutely inconceivable that this got signed off without there being some kind of **** at play behind the scenes.

What that was, I don’t know. League interference? Owners deliberately tanking the franchise for relocation? Someone in the Lakers franchise having something over the Dallas owners? A poker game gone wrong? I don’t know, but it’s something.

How inconceivable it may be, but you're getting this wrong. You're thinking this from the angle "I'm going to trade Doncic, couldn't I possibly get better value than Davis from another team?". However, from all the interviews about defensie, it's clear that Harrison was thinking "The best available two-way star player who's known as a superb defender is Davis, so he's the guy I want and LA is only accepting Doncic as a return asset, which we're willing to give up".

From the outside every basketball fan is focussing on the poor return for Doncic and asking why Harrison didn't offer Doncic on the market to start a bidding war for more value, but Harrison wanted Davis so his only question was what package do the Lakers accept for Davis. I don't think the Lakers would have ever accepted Irving, Gafford, Lively or Washington.

It was stupid from Harrison and I'm all about conspiracies, but here it was a case of pure tunnel vision. By the backlash that has been unleashed slowly reality is setting in. And only now Harrison and the owners are seriously starting to reflect on the process of the trade.

[bledredwine]

I feel good for Luka but terrible for Mavs fans.

Why good for Luka? He was devastated and lost money, no?

[Jazz9]

I feel good for Luka but terrible for Mavs fans.

Luka would MUCH rather still be in Dallas

[FreeBird23]

And these people run a franchise ???

What a disaster.

[HotRocks34]

I feel good for Luka but terrible for Mavs fans.

Why good for Luka? He was devastated and lost money, no?

Dallas is toxic now and they didn't support him. I think it's best that he got out of there.

[HotRocks34]

I feel good for Luka but terrible for Mavs fans.

Luka would MUCH rather still be in Dallas

Not with Nico and Dumont.

It's better to be where you're wanted.