Is the experiment in Miami is failing?

[cangiz]

RealGM: Where teams/players can be labeled busts before even a month of play...

...and despite the fact that they've been one of the most dominant teams in the league so far.

[BaunceyChillups]

Record: start 39-2, then 73-5, then 75-7 due to starters resting

So I guess can we expect the Heat to go 70-4 the rest of the way.

[Bskey]

Troll threads, gotta love em

After all the U MAD threads/posts? You bet.

This. Heat fans brought this on themselves. Sure people will shut up once the Heat get rolling but it's only fair to expect ridicule after all of the U MAD crap when the team is playing bad for their predicted standards.

[Wavy Q]

threads like this need to go away.

[Ian4]

It's like 8 games in really man...... really? whats wrong with you.

[AllBall]

The NBA is not the NFL.

[Bubstubbler]

Why are people still saying the Heat don't have a bench. House, Z, Jones, Haslem have played great for the roles they're asked to do, and they're having Miller come back in 2 months. What they need is a better C, not a better bench.

They don't have a bench dude. House and Jones are inconsistent shooters, Z is done, Haslem is okay but still not that great.

Not sure if serious.

Bench:

House/Chalmers
Stackhouse
Miller/Jones
Haslem/Howard
Z/Mags/Pittman

How many teams in the NBA have a better bench than that? (very few)

I love people who overrate the importance of bench players. These people actually think that a team of Paul/Kobe/LeBron/Dirk/Howard would crash and burn in a ringless pyre if they didn't have a good bench to back them up, when in actuality they'd go undefeated in the playoffs even with a bench composed entirely of d-leaguers.

[paul07ss]

Think in the Miami board they had a thread titled "How will they stop us"

[Chosen01]

Heat fans brought it upon themselves? you guys are acting like they just got bounced out of the playoffs, the heat have played 8 friggin games, gtfo.Anyone who thought this team would start off blowing not just mediocre-bad teams but GOOD, elite teams from the get-go are just plain stupid. Analysts, coaches, LeBron Wade already said its a process, which is why I wasn't apart of the whole the heat will win 70-72 games bull crap. I even remember LeBron saying when the heat lose early on, the fans or fans or fans of other teams won't understand.Wade also commented and said when they lose, the media will dissect it to the core.

Heat have been blowing out mediocre teams and Magic and lost by small margins to good teams, most disappointing is obviously Jazz since they were up 20 at one point, but in all 3 games they had a very good chance to win. Lets not make it seem like Heat are getting blown out by good teams and its 30 games into the season.

At the end of the heat need to learn from their 3 losses and worry about games 1 at a time.

And to the people talking about the bench, bench is paramount in the regular season for injuries and long nights, but come playoff time the core 8 guys will be playing 33-40mpg anyways.Heat need a Center to help Bosh, because Spoelstra (Please Use More Appropriate Word) rotation of Haslem-Bosh frontline is not cutting it.

[umopapisdn]

They haven't lost the championship yet, so it's too soon to say.

[Kobeskillz]

RealGM: Where teams/players can be labeled busts before even a month of play...

...and despite the fact that they've been one of the most dominant teams in the league so far.

5-3


Lakers and Hornets have been dominant.

[infinite11285]

If Paul freaking Millsap (a guy who's gone 1-13 from three over the course of his entire career up until last night) misses even 1 three pointer, this thread wouldn't have been created.

[Rerisen]

What is curious so far is that only Wade is really benefiting offensively from the big 3. Without having to handle all the ball handling, playmaking, nor having to face the brunt of the defensive focus every night, he is freed up to score much more efficiently.

However, without Lebron and Bosh getting the touches or isolation looks they are used to receiving, they aren't generating near the fouls they did as #1 options and have seen their efficiency fall greatly because of this.

So far Bosh's numbers are scarily close to Hakim Warrick.

[bruddahmanmatt]

Heat fans brought it upon themselves? you guys are acting like they just got bounced out of the playoffs, the heat have played 8 friggin games, gtfo.Anyone who thought this team would start off blowing not just mediocre-bad teams but GOOD, elite teams from the get-go are just plain stupid. Analysts, coaches, LeBron Wade already said its a process, which is why I wasn't apart of the whole the heat will win 70-72 games bull crap. I even remember LeBron saying when the heat lose early on, the fans or fans or fans of other teams won't understand.Wade also commented and said when they lose, the media will dissect it to the core.

You're preaching to the choir here buddy. You may not have been a part of the revisionist Heat bandwagon movement but you know damn well that a good chunk of your fanbase consists of uninformed part-time sports fans who had no idea WTH they were talking about when they started running their mouths before the start of the season. No one is saying that EVERY Heat fan is guilty of jumping on the "73-9 U Mad?" fad but let's not pretend like a lot of them weren't doing exactly that just a few months ago.

Heat have been blowing out mediocre teams and Magic and lost by small margins to good teams, most disappointing is obviously Jazz since they were up 20 at one point, but in all 3 games they had a very good chance to win. Lets not make it seem like Heat are getting blown out by good teams and its 30 games into the season.

A win is a win, a loss is a loss, and those losses to good teams by slim margins were losses in the worst way possible. The Heat dug themselves into a hole TWICE in their games against both Boston and New Orleans. Then against the Jazz they BLOW a 22 point lead AT HOME. Who cares if they were up by 22 at one point, THEY BLEW THE LEAD...AT HOME...IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF THEIR FAN...OH WAIT. Still, they blew a huge lead at home which is a pretty big no-no and in all three of their losses, Miami has been bent over by a team with a great 1 and a solid 5. You guys got beat by the top two PGs in the NBA in CP3 and D-Will and a top 10 PG in Rondo and your interior was abused by the likes of old Shaq, Okafor and Millsap. Yeah I agree it's only eight games in, but there IS a trend here. Yes Millsap went bonkers last night, but he still anchored a big push in the 3rd which is what gave the Jazz a shot of even being in it going into the 4th.

[akola]

None of the 3 stars they have there are championship material other than wade but who actually needed shaq and alot of ref help. If you really look at what theyve accomplished theyre nothing but stats and hype the result is championship pretenders.

-the fact that cleveland is doing better than the heat disproves the myth that james never had any help.
-the fact that even with 3 super duper uber stars Wade can not assert himself as a great leader to lead by example.
-Why does bosh and the coach get the blame when that team is supposed to have the top 2 best players in the league.

[ahonui06]

Yes, it's failing. They let Paul Millsap score 46 on them. PAUL MILLSAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[No Offense]

As premature as this thread is, one thing is for certain: If the Heat fail in the playoffs, we will not hold back and shove it in their face.

[chubby_1_kenobi]

What is curious so far is that only Wade is really benefiting offensively from the big 3. Without having to handle all the ball handling, playmaking, nor having to face the brunt of the defensive focus every night, he is freed up to score much more efficiently.

However, without Lebron and Bosh getting the touches or isolation looks they are used to receiving, they aren't generating near the fouls they did as #1 options and have seen their efficiency fall greatly because of this.

So far Bosh's numbers are scarily close to Hakim Warrick.

Wade has the ability to play off ball. In fact, he's awesome at it. The other 2 however, they need the balls to work (pun very much intended).

[Chosen01]

Heat fans brought it upon themselves? you guys are acting like they just got bounced out of the playoffs, the heat have played 8 friggin games, gtfo.Anyone who thought this team would start off blowing not just mediocre-bad teams but GOOD, elite teams from the get-go are just plain stupid. Analysts, coaches, LeBron Wade already said its a process, which is why I wasn't apart of the whole the heat will win 70-72 games bull crap. I even remember LeBron saying when the heat lose early on, the fans or fans or fans of other teams won't understand.Wade also commented and said when they lose, the media will dissect it to the core.

You're preaching to the choir here buddy. You may not have been a part of the revisionist Heat bandwagon movement but you know damn well that a good chunk of your fanbase consists of uninformed part-time sports fans who had no idea WTH they were talking about when they started running their mouths before the start of the season. No one is saying that EVERY Heat fan is guilty of jumping on the "73-9 U Mad?" fad but let's not pretend like a lot of them weren't doing exactly that just a few months ago.

Heat have been blowing out mediocre teams and Magic and lost by small margins to good teams, most disappointing is obviously Jazz since they were up 20 at one point, but in all 3 games they had a very good chance to win. Lets not make it seem like Heat are getting blown out by good teams and its 30 games into the season.

A win is a win, a loss is a loss, and those losses to good teams by slim margins were losses in the worst way possible. The Heat dug themselves into a hole TWICE in their games against both Boston and New Orleans. Then against the Jazz they BLOW a 22 point lead AT HOME. Who cares if they were up by 22 at one point, THEY BLEW THE LEAD...AT HOME...IN FRONT OF THOUSANDS OF THEIR FAN...OH WAIT. Still, they blew a huge lead at home which is a pretty big no-no and in all three of their losses, Miami has been bent over by a team with a great 1 and a solid 5. You guys got beat by the top two PGs in the NBA in CP3 and D-Will and a top 10 PG in Rondo and your interior was abused by the likes of old Shaq, Okafor and Millsap. Yeah I agree it's only eight games in, but there IS a trend here. Yes Millsap went bonkers last night, but he still anchored a big push in the 3rd which is what gave the Jazz a shot of even being in it going into the 4th.

You obviously don't know how to read PROPERLY, I wasn't giving any excuses on heat losing, I already said Heat need to take these games as they are and learn from them.Point is in the 3 heat losses they had a very good chance to winm your basically ranting on what everyone knew before the season started about the heats weaknesses.But then again obviously every loss is like fap material for guys even if they only played 8 games and lost the last two by a total of 5, so enjoy it.

[now and 4 life]

Great teams never lose 3 games in a season.