How bad did LeBron damage his legacy?

D.Brasco · Post #21 » by **D.Brasco** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:51 am

It's going to be a looong off-season but lebron still has age on his side. He's still 2 years younger than Jordan was before he won his 1st. It will take some sort of vindication next season and a great finals performance to fully rebuild.

initiald · Post #22 » by **initiald** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:51 am

Pretty much take him out of any possible GOAT discussion. Top 15 at MOST.

cb4_89 · Post #23 » by **cb4_89** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:51 am

SaveOurBullets wrote:Really bad. He could have salvaged it even after signing with Miami, but the damage done in that series was irreparable.

Not even with a few titles? Winning cures everything.

jack612 · Post #24 » by **jack612** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:51 am

kodo · Post #25 » by **kodo** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:52 am

I don't think anything is decided yet.

But next season is a "must win" for the Heat to take the championship, otherwise the damage will be real.

305rob305 · Post #26 » by **305rob305** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:52 am

detomaso wrote:Not one! Not two! No, not three! Not four! Not five! No, not six!

Hey its only the first year. Remember they will stick around for many years to come...

magicman123 · Post #27 » by **magicman123** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:52 am

cb4_89 wrote:
SaveOurBullets wrote:Really bad. He could have salvaged it even after signing with Miami, but the damage done in that series was irreparable.

Not even with a few titles? Winning cures everything.

wade will prolly get him one

Kobay · Post #28 » by **Kobay** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:53 am

Kobe has lost 2 finals series too.

I'll give him one final chance.

ADoaN17 · Post #29 » by **ADoaN17** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:53 am

I dont think he hurt it at all. It was the Heat's first year. As longs as he can win multiple championships in the future, everyone will forget about this.

Hon-essim · Post #30 » by **Hon-essim** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:54 am

Legacy-wise, not so much. The Heat did beat the odds and reached the Finals.

His bad Finals series is made up for by his defense on Rose.

Of course current perception is different but right now Lebron is around that Oscar range of being disappointing considering what you would expect from a player but he's also one dominant playoff season from establishing himself as the best but without any of the antagonistic expectations that comes from being the GOAT successor.

Also, one has to consider if Lebron destroys his legacy than he destroys Dirk's and this is Dirk's true attempt at establishing himself as a great player because of how this Heat team was built.

Post #31 » by **infinite11285** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:54 am

As of now, his legacy can be summed up with one word; failure. Until, and if he wins one (or multiple rings) he is going to be overlooked. Similar to how Dirk's legacy was tarnished after the collapse in '06. Only one thing can cure this damage, winning.

YungNeef · Post #32 » by **YungNeef** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:54 am

I don't think he ruined his legacy, but he has shown that he can let his team down when they really need him. His 4th quarter play this whole finals was really embarrassing.

Pancho_Pantera · Post #33 » by **Pancho_Pantera** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:55 am

bl2k · Post #34 » by **bl2k** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:56 am

alotta damage control going on in here, the Heat were the favorites, they had HCA in the Finals.

initiald · Post #35 » by **initiald** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:56 am

Kobay wrote:Kobe has lost 2 finals series too.

I'll give him one final chance.

yeah, but Kobe never have as bad of a performance like Lebron. Beside Miami is the clearcut favorite to win it. This is no contest, Kobe faced an one of ALL-TIME best defensive team in the Final 04 and Celtics '08.

casey · Post #36 » by **casey** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:56 am

initiald wrote:Pretty much take him out of any possible GOAT discussion. Top 15 at MOST.

He's 26 years old.

Post #37 » by **infinite11285** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:57 am

Kobay wrote:Kobe has lost 2 finals series too.

I'll give him one final chance.

Kobe has 5 rings prior to losing his first Finals series. LeBron has a HUGE uphill battle to repair his legacy. Kobe had a well earned cushion.

some_rand · Post #38 » by **some_rand** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:57 am

new low for lebron

Optms · Post #39 » by **Optms** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:57 am

Lebron was on the same team as prime Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh. Okay. That's all I need to know.

Check his fourth quarter stats this series if you have any doubts.

step · Post #40 » by **step** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:57 am

Badly.