Is this a travel?

ManualRam · Post #21 » by **ManualRam** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:14 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Nastradamus wrote:Unless he replants his original pivot foot, which in this case is his left, it isn't a travel.
Lol, this move is often taught in youth practices as well.

i read how they describe the rule, you must be right because this is how the rule is listed:

If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor

that doenst apply, he changes his pivot foot.

Nastradamus · Post #22 » by **Nastradamus** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:17 pm

ManualRam wrote:
venky wrote:Not a travel...

explain how it's not.
like someone already said, if he kept his pivot foot down and jumped off of 2 feet it would not have been a travel.

You can lift your pivot foot, travel is only called when you replant it.

ManualRam · Post #23 » by **ManualRam** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:18 pm

Nastradamus wrote:
ManualRam wrote:
venky wrote:Not a travel...

explain how it's not.
like someone already said, if he kept his pivot foot down and jumped off of 2 feet it would not have been a travel.

You can lift your pivot foot, travel is only called when you replant it.
I wonder have any of yall actually been involved with basketball aside from being a fan..

sure you can lift your pivot foot. to jump, not to switch your pivot foot.

Nastradamus · Post #24 » by **Nastradamus** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:18 pm

ManualRam wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Nastradamus wrote:Unless he replants his original pivot foot, which in this case is his left, it isn't a travel.
Lol, this move is often taught in youth practices as well.

i read how they describe the rule, you must be right because this is how the rule is listed:

If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor

that doenst apply, he changes his pivot foot.

No, he doesnt, he does it with one motion, keeping his original pivot lifted all along.

venky · Post #25 » by **venky** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:19 pm

ManualRam wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Nastradamus wrote:Unless he replants his original pivot foot, which in this case is his left, it isn't a travel.
Lol, this move is often taught in youth practices as well.

i read how they describe the rule, you must be right because this is how the rule is listed:

If a player, with the ball in his possession, raises his pivot foot off the floor, he must pass or shoot before his pivot foot returns to the floor

that doenst apply, he changes his pivot foot.

Err, I don't see it. His pivot foot was his left, he spun towards the rim and took off with his right. That's not a change of pivot foot. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Undrafted Rook · Post #26 » by **Undrafted Rook** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:22 pm

He shoots before his pivot foot comes back in to the ground, so legal play in every major rule set.

KB24TBOTB · Post #27 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:26 pm

How is this any more of a travel then what LBJ, wade or any other superstar does

Bucksfans1and2 · Post #28 » by **Bucksfans1and2** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:37 pm

KB24TBOTB wrote:Have is this any more of a travel then what LBJ, wade or any other superstar does

It isn't. That doesn't mean it isn't a travel.

Angry Jimmy · Post #29 » by **Angry Jimmy** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:37 pm

Is this a travel?

grimballer · Post #30 » by **grimballer** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:37 pm

Undrafted Rook wrote:He shoots before his pivot foot comes back in to the ground, so legal play in every major rule set.

after changing his pivot foot...

grimballer · Post #31 » by **grimballer** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:39 pm

KB24TBOTB wrote:Have is this any more of a travel then what LBJ, wade or any other superstar does

why u so defensive?

did kobe travel or not?

venky · Post #32 » by **venky** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:41 pm

grimballer wrote:
Undrafted Rook wrote:He shoots before his pivot foot comes back in to the ground, so legal play in every major rule set.

after changing his pivot foot...

His pivot foot was always his left. He never changed it.

KB24TBOTB · Post #33 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:44 pm

grimballer wrote:
KB24TBOTB wrote:Have is this any more of a travel then what LBJ, wade or any other superstar does

why u so defensive?

did kobe travel or not?

I was just calling out some of the posters who say Lebron doesn't travel when he clearly does but will otherwise if it's Kobe. So why should the standards be different

deepblueday · Post #34 » by **deepblueday** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:45 pm

Undrafted Rook wrote:He shoots before his pivot foot comes back in to the ground, so legal play in every major rule set.

lol... So if you establish your right foot as pivot foot, you can hop along on your one, left leg all the way down the court and it isn't a travel?

As others have said, the rule as quoted above takes for granted that once a pivot foot has been established, it cannot be changed, and the only way to "leave it" is to jump to shoot or pass. Switching your pivot to then jump to shoot or pass is a travel.

giordunk · Post #35 » by **giordunk** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:45 pm

Usually I say no because most clips are like LeBron taking an extra step but not dribbling or something stupid like that but this is definitely a travel. Try and emulate the move right now and see how awkward and travel-y it feels.

venky · Post #36 » by **venky** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:48 pm

deepblueday wrote:
Undrafted Rook wrote:He shoots before his pivot foot comes back in to the ground, so legal play in every major rule set.

lol... So if you establish your right foot as pivot foot, you can hop along on your one, left leg all the way down the court and it isn't a travel?

As others have said, the rule as quoted above takes for granted that once a pivot foot has been established, it cannot be changed, and the only way to "leave it" is to jump to shoot or pass. Switching your pivot to then jump to shoot or pass is a travel.

What are you talking about? He NEVER established his right foot as his pivot foot. Here is another example of Kobe doing what he did in the gif, it's perfectly legal. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqvg9NgP5uw[/youtube]

KB24TBOTB · Post #37 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:50 pm

giordunk wrote:Usually I say no because most clips are like LeBron taking an extra step but not dribbling or something stupid like that but this is definitely a travel. Try and emulate the move right now and see how awkward and travel-y it feels.

Oh so since you think it's stupid it's not a travel? :roll:

deepblueday · Post #38 » by **deepblueday** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:53 pm

venky wrote:What are you talking about? He NEVER established his right foot as his pivot foot. Here is another example of Kobe doing what he did in the gif, it's perfectly legal.

You're right, in the gif in the OP, he establishes his LEFT foot as his pivot foot... see him, you know, pivoting off it? Then he walks into another pivot foot. Travel, whether it's called every time or not is a different question. I actually see that exact thing called a travel quite a bit in the NBA.

KB24TBOTB · Post #39 » by **KB24TBOTB** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:54 pm

deepblueday wrote:
venky wrote:What are you talking about? He NEVER established his right foot as his pivot foot. Here is another example of Kobe doing what he did in the gif, it's perfectly legal.

You're right, in the gif in the OP, he establishes his LEFT foot as his pivot foot... see him, you know, pivoting off it? Then he walks into another pivot foot. Travel, whether it's called every time or not is a different question. I actually see that exact thing called a travel quite a bit in the NBA.

Nastradamus · Post #40 » by **Nastradamus** » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:54 pm

giordunk wrote:Usually I say no because most clips are like LeBron taking an extra step but not dribbling or something stupid like that but this is definitely a travel. Try and emulate the move right now and see how awkward and travel-y it feels.

Its a fundamental move actually, taught everywhere, practiced everywhere, lmao.
Seriously, some of yall needa play more ball and get in official games yourselves instead of arguing over who hates a player or a team and who's a fan of another, lol.