Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k?

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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#21 » by Heats_Finest » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:42 am

RayBan-Sematra wrote:Depends on how long his body holds up.
Lebron is a unique athlete but everyone loses to father time eventually.

I mean who knows maybe new medical advancements will come out allowing him to stay at a high level for much longer then we'd expect.
Look at Kobe with those German Knee's returning to form this year.

Still the future is always uncertain.
Look at Karl Malone.
Was going strong for so long and then bam he randomly hurts his Knee on the Lakers and never plays again.

I think Kobe's return to form on offense is because he doesn't use his muscles anymore on defense, the Germans had nothing to do with it.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#22 » by arifgokcen » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:47 am

RayBan-Sematra wrote:Depends on how long his body holds up.
Lebron is a unique athlete but everyone loses to father time eventually.

I mean who knows maybe new medical advancements will come out allowing him to stay at a high level for much longer then we'd expect.
Look at Kobe with those German Knee's returning to form this year.

Still the future is always uncertain.
Look at Karl Malone.
Was going strong for so long and then bam he randomly hurts his Knee on the Lakers and never plays again.


Malone hurt his knee at 40.IF lebron can somehow manages to maintain his durability well into his 30s,he definitely has a chance.Nobody came close to that but the fact still remains he needs to play another 10years assuming him maintaining his assist numbers,most of his assists came from his ability to attract double or triple teams,is very unlikely.

But then again we have never seen an athlete like him.He is bigger and stronger than most PFs and faster than most PGs and the agility and quickness he has for someone his size is just unprecented.

However i still have hard time seeing his body holding up well into his 30s with the weight his carrying.Body even as spectacular as his has limits.He is 265-270lbs.

I just read on ESPN he never missed a playoff game his entire career wow.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#23 » by Bskey » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:52 am

Derailing.
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Post#24 » by arifgokcen » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:16 pm

Bskey wrote:
arifgokcen wrote:I just read on ESPN he never missed a playoff game his entire career wow.


There were a few he didn't show up to though.

Dude come on this is not about his choking please dont mess up a good debate
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Post#25 » by diablerouge » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:39 pm

people say that his body will eventually break down but it's not based on anything, really. malone's body never broke down until his very last year at LA.

lebron doesn't get enough credit for his physical preparation: yoga, pilates, leg massages before every game, 1 hour of stretching with a therapist before games too, ice bath for his legs after games, 4-hour naps on gamedays, diet... that's why he almost never misses games.
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Post#26 » by therealbig3 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:56 pm

diablerouge wrote:people say that his body will eventually break down but it's not based on anything, really. malone's body never broke down until his very last year at LA.

lebron doesn't get enough credit for his physical preparation: yoga, pilates, leg massages before every game, 1 hour of stretching with a therapist before games too, ice bath for his legs after games, 4-hour naps on gamedays, diet... that's why he almost never misses games.


Agreed, I was surprised to learn a while ago that LeBron does pilates and yoga, and figured that he would get a lot of crap for that, but can't argue with the results. His mobility and body control are certainly helped by that, and it's helped him avoid injuries.
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Post#27 » by sisibilio » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:33 pm

Beardman wrote:No. He's going to be a 4 in his 30's and the assists will become stagnant.

I see him retiring 28k points, 8k assists, 10k rebounds.
I don't see any reason why he can't keep dishing 6-7 apg playing as a theorical PF full time, it would be his scoring which will go down IMO.
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Post#28 » by sisibilio » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:37 pm

therealbig3 wrote:
diablerouge wrote:people say that his body will eventually break down but it's not based on anything, really. malone's body never broke down until his very last year at LA.

lebron doesn't get enough credit for his physical preparation: yoga, pilates, leg massages before every game, 1 hour of stretching with a therapist before games too, ice bath for his legs after games, 4-hour naps on gamedays, diet... that's why he almost never misses games.


Agreed, I was surprised to learn a while ago that LeBron does pilates and yoga, and figured that he would get a lot of crap for that, but can't argue with the results. His mobility and body control are certainly helped by that, and it's helped him avoid injuries.

A lot of soccer players do pilates, it's really helpful.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#29 » by sisibilio » Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:39 pm

diablerouge wrote:people say that his body will eventually break down but it's not based on anything, really. malone's body never broke down until his very last year at LA.

Malone was a genetic freak, one in a million case. LeBron is also a freak and his durability is unquestioable but maybe he has an achilles heel somewhere.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#30 » by MitchellUK » Thu Jan 17, 2013 4:21 pm

sisibilio wrote:
diablerouge wrote:people say that his body will eventually break down but it's not based on anything, really. malone's body never broke down until his very last year at LA.

Malone was a genetic freak, one in a million case. LeBron is also a freak and his durability is unquestioable but maybe he has an achilles heel somewhere.


I think it would have been evident by now, 9 years into his career. He is what he is as an athlete. Incredible size and strength, phenomenal agility and speed for someone his size, and also very durable. I would guess that of all the games he's missed in his career, half were end of season DNPs prior to the playoffs.

Still, 30,000, 10,000 and 10,000 is going to be a massive ask.

30k points is almost a given. He's over 20,000 at the age of 28, so he should reach 30,000 somewhere between 32 and 34, depending on the number of games he plays and how much he focuses on scoring.

Both the 10,000 rebounds and assists would require him to average roughly 7 of each per game for the next 9 years, assuming an average of 75 games played per season. It really depends on how long he plays for and how he is used. He's a terrific passer in almost any situation, so if he does make the transition to PF in a few years, as many people expect, there seems to be no reason why he couldn't still be used as a focal point and facilitator in the offense.
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Post#31 » by Deimos » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:46 pm

Beardman wrote:No. He's going to be a 4 in his 30's and the assists will become stagnant.

I see him retiring 28k points, 8k assists, 10k rebounds.


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Post#32 » by LEHGOCELTICS » Thu Jan 17, 2013 5:48 pm

Bskey wrote:
arifgokcen wrote:I just read on ESPN he never missed a playoff game his entire career wow.


There were a few he didn't show up to though.


That is SO two years ago. Wake up.

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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#33 » by OneWhoKnocks » Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:05 pm

Hmm, I can see assists being a little of a stretch, but I can definitely see him beating Kareem if he has a 20+ year career.

40k/10k/8k may be more possible.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#34 » by Al Swearengen » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:08 pm

With the way sports medicine is advancing, I wouldn't be surprised. There's so much they can do now to keep bodies from breaking down. Imagine what they'll have in 10 years, and Lebron will "only" be 38. A freak like him might be able to play into his early 40's.

I mean, I remember a few years ago like outright laughing when people asked if Kobe could get the all time scoring record. I remember doing the math and thinking it was ridiculous, because Kobe would have to play until he's like 40. I still don't think it's likely, but it's not as outright crazy as I used to think.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#35 » by boogie-reke » Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:41 pm

Did someone just have him retiring at 28k points?

So you think Lebron will retire around 3-4 years from now?

Lebron has a legit shot breaking Kareem's all-time leading scorer record.
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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#36 » by Geaux_Hawks » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:41 pm

If he was as skilled as Malone was, then I might give him a chance, but seeing as he will not be the athlete he is now, i just dont think he will make it. I remember seeing people talk about Wade being highly effective in his 30's, but as we can see, though still effective, he isn't Wade of the past. It's only a matter of time and its not a knock on Lebron before he loses his superb athleticism.
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Post#37 » by sisibilio » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:49 pm

Geaux_Hawks wrote:If he was as skilled as Malone was

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Re: Can Lebron reach 30k/10k/10k? 

Post#38 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:51 pm

I don't think he can get the assist but he can get 30 k points and 10 k rebounds. That's an amazing accomplishment in itself.
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Post#39 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:53 pm

OneWhoKnocks wrote:Hmm, I can see assists being a little of a stretch, but I can definitely see him beating Kareem if he has a 20+ year career.

40k/10k/8k may be more possible.



Oh no, 40k is not more possible. Think about how many points he will have to average and for how long. His body will break down before then.
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Post#40 » by sisibilio » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:06 pm

If he doesn't miss many games he'll finish this season wth around 5300 assits.
Playing 9 more seasons, 75-76 games per season and averaging 7 apg he'll get to 10000, it's not a sure thing but neither THAT crazy, they key is not suffering a major injury.
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