No extension for Gordon Hayward -> to become RFA July 1

carlquincy · Post #21 » by **carlquincy** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 10:11 am

Seems like an overpay, even @ $40m/4yr.

Good move by Jazz.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #22 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 11:49 am

I think its a good gamble by him. He's the only young swingman of any consequence in free agency next year.

Imon · Post #23 » by **Imon** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 12:04 pm

Too bad for Jazz fans.
Personally I'm not too high on Hayward but this is the kind of stuff that irks players and causes resentment against an organization later.

This will play into Hayward's decision come free agency.
Funny how guys like Jennings and Ellis couldn't get the contract they wanted this offseason. It's a new NBA landscape with the new CBA. Maybe that'll happen to Hayward this year or maybe some bum team will offer Hayward a contract that Utah isn't willing to match.
I could see either scenarios happening.

DWiz · Post #24 » by **DWiz** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 12:21 pm

No way hes a 50-60 mil talent. 40 mil and it should flatline at 10 mil/per

Litany · Post #25 » by **Litany** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:15 pm

Ruckusmh wrote:
pace31 wrote:"Per ESPN, Jazz offered $50M but wouldn't move past that number."

Found that on the Jazz boards so not sure the exact source, but if true ridiculous on the Jazz side for offering it and even more ridiculous for Hayward's camp to reject it.

I understood that quote on the Jazz board as a misreading of the ESPN article - Jazz thought Hayward's push for over 50 was steep is not the same as Jazz offered 50.

IIRC, Jazz offered 40/4 and probably never moved much from there.

The article says:

"but they were ultimately hesitant on deadline day to go beyond the $50 million mark, "

So they did offer him 50. I'm glad he didn't take it because that's too much. Sure as hell glad they didn't go higher.

Hayward is delusional. "I'm as good as Paul George!"

"No you're not!"

"FUUuU, I'll show you!"

Okay let's see it...

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Massamba · Post #26 » by **Massamba** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 1:23 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:since when is 12ppg worth 50 million?

Since the lockout. It's like they all have +10 mill deals.

RTran85 · Post #27 » by **RTran85** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 2:18 pm

He avg 14/3/3 last year, I would say hes worth what the Raptors are paying Demar DeRozan right now. Unless he improves this year then maybe he should get paid a little more.

Sixteen · Post #28 » by **Sixteen** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 2:31 pm

KB24TBOTB wrote:Hayward is not worth 50m. Players today think they are worth all the money in the world, what does he do so well to be worth that much money. Glad Utah didn't budge unlike some other franchises that handicap themselves with such deals

I don't think any team would pay Gordy that much money. He should fire his agent.

ceremony816 · Post #29 » by **ceremony816** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 2:40 pm

Orlwillbeback wrote:since when is 12ppg worth 50 million?

It's not but why not try to get as much money as possible? If a team bites, that's on them.

ryst · Post #30 » by **ryst** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 3:45 pm

in what universe Hayward need to make more money then Curry and Holiday?

this guy or his agents are greedy idiots , I hope he play like **** all year and get offered MLE next season

Charsace · Post #31 » by **Charsace** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 3:48 pm

I like Hayward, but he doesn't look like a guy that should get more than 9 mill a season.

Raptor_Guy · Post #32 » by **Raptor_Guy** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 3:56 pm

I hope he doesn't get more than 10mil per in free agency. Who does he think he is? It still pains me that Rodney Stuckey got as much as he did.

EricAnderson · Post #33 » by **EricAnderson** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 3:57 pm

Hes a bench player on a good team..Him and his agent have delusions of grandeur

schneiderjazz · Post #34 » by **schneiderjazz** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 4:01 pm

If the Jazz did indeed offer Hayward 50 million, he was crazy not to take it. He's gonna risk playing an entire season with the possibility of getting injured to get 7 million more if someone decides to offer him a max contract? Seems like a bad idea to me.

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Post #35 » by **StocktonShorts** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 4:42 pm

Smart move by the Jazz but a disappointing result for everyone involved.

Someone may give Hayward the money he wants but that team will struggle to contend for anything. He's just not worth more than $10M/year.

kenifpassion · Post #36 » by **kenifpassion** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 4:42 pm

there's no way he would get 15 mill a year, i think around 11-12 mill

NaturalBuns · Post #37 » by **NaturalBuns** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 5:20 pm

Hes 7-8mil for me. His stats don't put him in the 10+ range unless he improves.

Post #38 » by **jazzfan1971** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 6:02 pm

I think 8mil is fair. Anything over 10 is buyers remorse.

Liver_Pooty · Post #39 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 6:31 pm

Can definitely see the Bobcats offering him 10 mill/year and Utah matching.

Catchall · Post #40 » by **Catchall** » Fri Nov 1, 2013 7:29 pm

When the Jazz draft Jabari Parker and Aaron Harrison this summer, they'll be glad they didn't over-commit on Hayward. I like his passing and playmaking for his size, but he's not irreplaceable.

Favors would be difficult to replace, that's what makes him more valuable.

It sounds like Hayward turned down $50mil.