Bill Russell: I lost track of how many championships I won

carl_english · Post #21 » by **carl_english** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 9:49 am

That's understandable.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #22 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 11:30 am

number1joker wrote:No disrespect to Russel but if he played in the nba today he wouldnt have nearly as many titles, especially 8 in a row.

That's basically impossible for a modern NBA team to do.

For that reason alone teams like Shaq's LAkers, Jordans Bulls and Duncans Spurs are all far more impressive dynastys imo.

Why is it necessary to put past accomplishments into the present time? That was his era, the rules were different. IF he was in this era, I'm sure adjustments would follow.

ORLMagicGirl15 · Post #23 » by **ORLMagicGirl15** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 11:33 am

Mujahydeen wrote:Small fact frog:

Russell won 27 playoff series
Jordan won 30

What was the playoff format for each?

dirkforpres · Post #24 » by **dirkforpres** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 12:36 pm

this means nothing. If he was so good then why didn't LeBron put him on his Mt Rushmore?

MacGill · Post #25 » by **MacGill** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 12:56 pm

number1joker wrote:No disrespect to Russel but if he played in the nba today he wouldnt have nearly as many titles, especially 8 in a row.

That's basically impossible for a modern NBA team to do.

For that reason alone teams like Shaq's LAkers, Jordans Bulls and Duncans Spurs are all far more impressive dynastys imo.

MJ didn't have to retire and Shaq & Kobe didn't have to feud etc and the early Celtics kept it going, even with line-up changes throughout etc.

I don't care if it's church league, winning 8 in row as a team and 11/13 is impressive no matter what you deem the era to be. The Heat are in their 4th finals in a row right now and what I can say about the game today is absolute talent open the doors, but playing as a selfless team is what pushes you through. Russell's contributions were the perfect compliment for his team. He was the floor leader and anchored the D, did the grunt work without question, and helped on O where needed. He'd build himself around the team, not the team around him. That's the difference.

DwnShft2Xcelr8 · Post #26 » by **DwnShft2Xcelr8** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 1:17 pm

1UPZ wrote:If it wasnt for Bill Russel, NBA wouldnt probably be this big and Lebron probably wouldnt be born or atleast he wont be playing basketball...

You have to compare in context..... in 100 years time when some elite humans can grow to 8 feet and move like guards and score 50ppg, would that disregard everything happening NOW?

Wow! What an amazing reach! You should become a boxer, bro. Nobody can touch you if you can reach that far.

If Bill Russell didn't play basketball or win at least 8 rings in a row, LeBron wouldn't be born. That makes sense. I'm sure LeBron's mom was laying on her back with her legs open in 1984, saying to whoever LeBron's biological father is (probably somehow Delonte West), "You so lucky Bill Russell won all dem rings 'cuz if he ain't win all dem rings, I wouldn't-a let you do me right now."

choppermagic · Post #27 » by **choppermagic** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 1:21 pm

There's no way he forgot he won 8 titles in a row. People will talk about it all the time with him and I'm sure he's done countless interviews about the championships for articles, tv specials, documentaries, etc.

What is likely is that the different series' blended together in his mind so none of them stand out individually. This can easily happen and other athletes seem to do this too.

contract · Post #28 » by **contract** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 1:33 pm

Shem wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtLkvYhXgoE[/youtube]

The game is so different now it's crazy.

DwnShft2Xcelr8 · Post #29 » by **DwnShft2Xcelr8** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 1:43 pm

contract wrote:The game is so different now it's crazy.

The WORLD is so different now.

GreenHat · Post #30 » by **GreenHat** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 2:32 pm

miltk wrote:
number1joker wrote:No disrespect to Russel but if he played in the nba today he wouldnt have nearly as many titles, especially 8 in a row.

That's basically impossible for a modern NBA team to do.

For that reason alone teams like Shaq's LAkers, Jordans Bulls and Duncans Spurs are all far more impressive dynastys imo.

sorry but any time someone makes such a statement of comparison it IS a sign of disrespect. a champion is a champion. all champs of all eras share the same champion dna.

i wonder why only champions understand what other champions have done. oh wait i know, because they know what it takes.

All championships are not created equal. Completely different winning a title in an 8 team league with two rounds of playoffs than in a 30 team league with 4.

Also a lot easier to keep a dynasty going without a salary cap.

Boarder Patrol · Post #31 » by **Boarder Patrol** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 2:41 pm

And they say Russell has one of the GOAT bball IQs? I'm calling BS.

Overrated as hell 60's man.

/green

The Laker Kid · Post #32 » by **The Laker Kid** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 3:39 pm

I believe it. Didn't he forget that he had a gun in his carryon luggage once and got arrested at the airport? :lol:

bape_lovers · Post #33 » by **bape_lovers** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 3:45 pm

whose Lafonda :-?

OBisHalJordan wrote:Russell is the GOAT. LaFonda isn't as good or as accomplished as Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, Bird, MJ, Duncan, Shaq, and Kobe. End of thread. Lafonda ball washers cry themselves to sleep with on bed stuffed with excuses.

BKing10 · Post #34 » by **BKing10** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 3:46 pm

probably because he only had to win like 10 games to win a title with very little competition

The4thHorseman · Post #35 » by **The4thHorseman** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 3:59 pm

I'm sure it was just coincidental that the column he wrote was put up the day of game 1 of the Finals. :roll:

It was just his way of BS'ing to make sure today's teenagers and those in their early 20's know that he won 8 straight.
No chance of him not knowing until 20yrs ago.

Mujaki · Post #36 » by **Mujaki** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 4:02 pm

Barely any teams, didn't have to play as many rounds to get to the Finals... Impressive? Yes, but comparing it to the same context as today's championships is a slight to today's teams and players in my opinion.

lakersin4 · Post #37 » by **lakersin4** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 4:28 pm

1UPZ wrote:
number1joker wrote:No disrespect to Russel but if he played in the nba today he wouldnt have nearly as many titles, especially 8 in a row.

That's basically impossible for a modern NBA team to do.

For that reason alone teams like Shaq's LAkers, Jordans Bulls and Duncans Spurs are all far more impressive dynastys imo.

If it wasnt for Bill Russel, NBA wouldnt probably be this big and Lebron probably wouldnt be born or atleast he wont be playing basketball...

Best post ever.

abark · Post #38 » by **abark** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 4:33 pm

There were only 8 or 9 teams in the whole league when he won 8 in a row. That's half a playoff bracket. 25% of the league was playing in the finals. I'm not saying winning was easy, but it's not the same as winning in today's league.

rich316 · Post #39 » by **rich316** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 4:46 pm

Bill Russell Humblebrag. The guy certainly has a knack getting people riled up, but it's probably a good thing. He knows that he's from another era, it's important for people to not forget about him.

Post #40 » by **JDR720** » Sat Jun 7, 2014 5:07 pm

Not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6 not 7 not 8 not 9.......