NBA looking to change Draft Lottery; 76ers say no

[LloydFree]

Orlando is doing a much better job then them right now

Yeah those 20 and 23 win seasons the past TWO years really look much better than the 19 wins the 76ers got this past year.

[Sc0pe92]

Cavaliers would still win anyways

[BullyKing]

I completely agree. Sports should be about competition.

I mean in the case of the Sixers, why not give away ticket prices then? If they aren't trying to win, they shouldn't try to make money from the fans.

Note: if they are just a bad team that's different. I oppose teams that purposely tank seasons for a chance at a #1 pick.

Pretend you're the Sixers GM. What would you have done differently?

I think the answer is: Not much.

A team with cap space and players like Carter-Willams, Young, Embiid, and Noel are players you can use to improve your team. Not just throw another season away because you want to get another top pick. What happens if they don't get a top pick again? Do they tank next year? When does it end?

With cap space, you have options and it seems like the Sixers GM is not exercising them. He seems content to put forth a team with a little chance at winning. And yet the team still wants to charge hundreds for tickets and merchandise?

Accidentally And1'd this nonsense. Who should the Sixers have signed this offseason that realistically would have come here. Should they have topped the Magic's offer for Channing Frye? Hey,they need a 2 guard, maybe they should have added a couple years to Jodie Meeks' contract. I know I was screaming at the Sixers for letting Ben Gordon slip through their fingers yet again.

[LofJ]

And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.

I totally agree, the Sixes aren't the first team to tank in order to rebuild. It is grossly unfair to change the lottery system on them right in the middle of their rebuild. If they're going to change the lottery it shouldn't take effect until the 2016 draft.

[LloydFree]

As a Sixers fan, I say **** the current management. They don't deserve to win how they are "building" this team. This is not admirable by any means. Lets suck really bad for 4-5 seasons for a chance at being good. I hope the NBA tells them to suck it.

If you are a 76ers fan, and you want the NBA to tell THEM to suck it, then just maybe you aren't a 76ers fan currently.

[Saints14]

Don't see why people act like the Sixers are like the Marlins who bring very little talent to the table for the owners to make a cheap buck. Yes, they're losing "on purpose", but its part of a long term plan to win. Talk about the league being competitive - well its not just on the court. The Sixers are trying as hard as any team in the league to put a quality product on the court, it just won't be seen for a while.

Besides, what's the difference between a fabricated bad team and a genuinely bad team? They both need help, and the one with the long term plan is likely to be better for the prospect anyways.

[GallagherArt]

As a Sixers fan, I say **** the current management. They don't deserve to win how they are "building" this team. This is not admirable by any means. Lets suck really bad for 4-5 seasons for a chance at being good. I hope the NBA tells them to suck it.

...We've sucked bad for a single season, this would be our second.

Orlando is doing a much better job then them right now

i wouldn't really laugh at it. The Sixers have extremely high risk high reward kind of players. The Magic have medium risk or low risk and good to high reward players. Their situation is much more balanced.

Would argue they don't have nearly as high of reward players as we do, regardless, we have one high risk player at this point whom also happens to have the highest reward.

[biggestbullsfan]

And they absolutely should fight it.

It's a good system, and I'm sure the Sixers think it will help in the future as well. But they have every right to fight it if they implement it this season with no notice. You don't think the draft/FA would change for teams if they knew this system would be in place?

Any implemented league change needs proper notice and without notice, would screw the teams that just played by the rules that were presented to them.

I totally agree, the Sixes aren't the first team to tank in order to rebuild. It is grossly unfair to change the lottery system on them right in the middle of their rebuild. If they're going to change the lottery it shouldn't take effect until the 2016 draft.

I think people putting so much stock into changing the lottery are the same people who want it used for the wrong reasons. Its a lottery, not a guarantee. Now if the issue was have a lottery or not then I totally understand. But when the only thing thats changing is the percentage you have to win the top pick, which in reality probably isnt by much, then whats the main issue here? Oh that you being so much worse than everyone else wont pay off as much as you need it to? The NBA is full within their rights to change the odds for the #1 just as the 76ers are in their rights to tank to the max.

[omerome]

Accidentally And1'd this nonsense. Who should the Sixers have signed this offseason that realistically would have come here. Should they have topped the Magic's offer for Channing Frye? Hey,they need a 2 guard, maybe they should have added a couple years to Jodie Meeks' contract. I know I was screaming at the Sixers for letting Ben Gordon slip through their fingers yet again.

If I'm not mistaken, the Sixers has had capspace for the last two seasons and they didn't use it. Now, that doesn't mean that they should of only signed available FAs. They could of used that capspace to trade for guys on other teams who may have high-paying 1-2 year contracts in exchange for future draft considerations or trading with a team to get players they can help them win games.

Instead, they are basically throwing seasons in the hope that they get a top pick to bail them out. What player would be content to stick around there, or even, what player would want to join an environment like that?

I'd have no problem if the team fielded a roster that tried to win games, but weren't good enough. But if a GM is happy with putting a bare-minimum roster together, why should he be rewarded?

[biggestbullsfan]

Outside of MCW and Young, who actually played for the 76ers last year? I imagine a bunch of D-League talent but I dont know anyone by name.

[BullyKing]

Accidentally And1'd this nonsense. Who should the Sixers have signed this offseason that realistically would have come here. Should they have topped the Magic's offer for Channing Frye? Hey,they need a 2 guard, maybe they should have added a couple years to Jodie Meeks' contract. I know I was screaming at the Sixers for letting Ben Gordon slip through their fingers yet again.

If I'm not mistaken, the Sixers has had capspace for the last two seasons and they didn't use it. Now, that doesn't mean that they should of only signed available FAs. They could of used that capspace to trade for guys on other teams who may have high-paying 1-2 year contracts in exchange for future draft considerations or trading with a team to get players they can help them win games.

Instead, they are basically throwing seasons in the hope that they get a top pick to bail them out. What player would be content to stick around there, or even, what player would want to join an environment like that?

I'd have no problem if the team fielded a roster that tried to win games, but weren't good enough. But if a GM is happy with putting a bare-minimum roster, why should he be rewareded?

So you'd be ok with what they were doing if they had traded cap space for useless players along with draft picks? Sure, that would have been nice (though they did this to a small extent). But it wouldn't change the tank outcome that you appear so offended by.

[LloydFree]

Go ahead and change the system. But they shouldn't have waited until after the Draft and Free agency period to try to change rules for the upcoming season. Personnel decisions have already been planned.

The NBA let Orlando and Cleveland get away with blatant tanking for two year periods without a thought. Now its an issue?

[improper]

This. Can't change it for the upcoming season.

My thing is why do they all of a sudden want to change it? They gave Cleveland it's picks an now they want to change it? Sounds like a cover up.

I actually think they're changing it more because of the Sixers and their total disinterest in creating an actual NBA team last year than because Cleveland won back to back. The odds still allow the lower lottery teams to win in the new system. It actually affects the worst lottery teams more than the best ones.

[BullyKing]

Don't see why people act like the Sixers are like the Marlins who bring very little talent to the table for the owners to make a cheap buck. Yes, they're losing "on purpose", but its part of a long term plan to win. Talk about the league being competitive - well its not just on the court. The Sixers are trying as hard as any team in the league to put a quality product on the court, it just won't be seen for a while.

Besides, what's the difference between a fabricated bad team and a genuinely bad team? They both need help, and the one with the long term plan is likely to be better for the prospect anyways.

Perfectly said.

[Mr Loggins]

Just wait for LeBron show up and save you - that's what Cleveland keeps doing

[biggestbullsfan]

Go ahead and change the system. But they shouldn't have waited until after the Draft and Free agency period to try to change rules for the upcoming season.
The NBA let Orlando and Cleveland get away with blatant tanking for two year periods without a thought. Now its an issue?

They lost Lebron. I think anything after Lebron is probably considered tanking. Also they tried to get better. They traded for Deng and Hawes with hopes of making the playoffs.

And the Magic actually had a talented young roster. A fan of alot of their current guys too.

The 76ers literally traded away all their players for a bag of chips. None of those trades brought back meaningful young talent. Its not the same. If they didnt make any trades last year, they wouldve made the playoffs in the east. Thats how sad the east is.

[GreenWithEnvy]

You don't consider Noel to be a high risk player? He's extremely high risk. He hasn't played a single minute of meaningful NBA basketball. And then factor in Embiid. Factor in the high pick the Sixers are anticipating in next years draft. Its just question mark after question mark.

[Saints14]

Outside of MCW and Young, who actually played for the 76ers last year? I imagine a bunch of D-League talent but I dont know anyone by name.

Hollis "58 2K rating" Thompson started on the wing

[SunKing]

I don't why but it just made me thought about Sam Hinkie in a "Y U NO" face while hearing about Silver's ideas

[GallagherArt]

Go ahead and change the system. But they shouldn't have waited until after the Draft and Free agency period to try to change rules for the upcoming season.
The NBA let Orlando and Cleveland get away with blatant tanking for two year periods without a thought. Now its an issue?

They lost Lebron. I think anything after Lebron is probably considered tanking. Also they tried to get better. They traded for Deng with hopes of making the playoffs.

And the Magic actually had a talented young roster. A fan of alot of their current guys too.

The 76ers literally traded away all their players for a bag of chips. None of those trades brought back meaningful young talent. Its not the same. If they didnt make any trades last year, they wouldve made the playoffs in the east. Thats how sad the east is.

Sixers traded Hawes for 2 second round draft picks and Henry Sims, Sims analytically played better for the Sixers than Hawes did for either team last season, he's also younger. Evan Turner wasn't going to get resigned so why not get something for him? We seemed to have won that trade regardless. You realize at the trade deadline the Sixers' were 15-39...?