Jazzfan1971 and FloppyMoose's Season Preview - The Blazers

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Reading all of these threads it's apparent people don't understand there are only 1230 wins to get divided up by 30 teams. Not every team can do better than they did last season.

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The data I'm using has Lilliard at about 40th, Lopez about 50th, and Aldridge at 8th in the nba. It's quite possibly underrating Lilliard, but it's still giving good credit to Portland's core.

You have 39 players ranked better than Lillard?

I have no words for this...

Well it averages out by putting Robin Lopez at 50, no?

1. James
2. Durant
3. Paul
4. Curry
5. Dwight
6. Melo
7. Westbrook
8. Dirk
9. Harden
10. Brow
11. Aldridge
12. Griffin
13. Love
14. Al Jefferson
15. Duncan
16. Parker
17. Dragic
18. Noah
19. Wade
20. Bosh
21. Horford
22. Wall
23. Rose
24. M. Gasol
25. Kobe
26. Cousins
27. Ibaka
28. Lawson
29. Lee

The list is not in order but off the top of my head.

I think 30 is pretty much the lowest you could put him and I think you could make a case for him to be better than some of those guys. Maybe Monta, Klay, Brook Lopez, Lowry, Irving, Bledsoe, Rondo, Conley, Milsap, Drummond, Leonard, Holliday, Derozan so that could get him to 40 but it would have to be a pretty specific type of team that I would take those guys over him.

You have David Lee being better than Lillard, and you don't even have it as one of the questionable ones?

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You have 39 players ranked better than Lillard?

I have no words for this...

Well it averages out by putting Robin Lopez at 50, no?

1. James
2. Durant
3. Paul
4. Curry
5. Dwight
6. Melo
7. Westbrook
8. Dirk
9. Harden
10. Brow
11. Aldridge
12. Griffin
13. Love
14. Al Jefferson
15. Duncan
16. Parker
17. Dragic
18. Noah
19. Wade
20. Bosh
21. Horford
22. Wall
23. Rose
24. M. Gasol
25. Kobe
26. Cousins
27. Ibaka
28. Lawson
29. Lee

The list is not in order but off the top of my head.

I think 30 is pretty much the lowest you could put him and I think you could make a case for him to be better than some of those guys. Maybe Monta, Klay, Brook Lopez, Lowry, Irving, Bledsoe, Rondo, Conley, Milsap, Drummond, Leonard, Holliday, Derozan so that could get him to 40 but it would have to be a pretty specific type of team that I would take those guys over him.

You have David Lee being better than Lillard, and you don't even have it as one of the questionable ones?

Dude, Lee is my 29th, and I said that 30 is the lowest and as I bolded above, there are other guys that are questionable that are above him. Lee is pretty much a 20 and 10 big man with an elite passing game for his position that brings leadership and accountability. I think Chris Bosh is definitely more questionable but hes just a bigger name. I was simply just trying to name 29 that on a lot of teams I would take over Lillard and looking at it positionally, there are for more really good PG's than PFs in this league and Lee is definitely one of the better PF's. He gets underrated on this board.